Some advice for FE7

[Harvey]

Ok so I happen to have bought a used copy of FE7 and it doesn't come with the instructions and all. So I'd like to know where I can read the pdf of the instructions of the game online...like you know, how to play the game, the brief story etc.

Then of course I'm playing this game and knowing this is before Fates and Awakening happened so I'd like some tips for my playthrough of this game.

Oh and don't spoil the story sections here please because I am about to play it.

[eclipse]

Start a new game on Lyn Normal Mode. Use A to confirm stuff and B to cancel. L and R scroll through units, IIRC.

Lyn Normal Mode has a lot of events and text, but it'll tell you what to do, literally. It's a huge help IMO!

EDIT: And if all the save slots are full, you'll need to Erase Data first.

Edited December 2, 2016 by eggclipse

[Cornguy]

One quick tip, be sure to use the armories and vendors mid-chapter, because you can't buy weapons from the battle-prep screen, and weapons aren't unlimited like they are in fates.

[Magical Glace]

Ok so I happen to have bought a used copy of FE7 and it doesn't come with the instructions and all. So I'd like to know where I can read the pdf of the instructions of the game online...like you know, how to play the game, the brief story etc.

Then of course I'm playing this game and knowing this is before Fates and Awakening happened so I'd like some tips for my playthrough of this game.

Oh and don't spoil the story sections here please because I am about to play it.

It's basically an easier, more balanced version of 6 mechanically.

There are some minor changes (like the removal of 120 support point limit), but the formulas are similar and the basic gameplay is still normal FE.

[EricaofRenais]

Lyn mode will tell most of what you need to know because it is a tutorial for first timers. And what the others above me have said is very good advice the only other thing you will want to do is check the requirements for the Gaiden chapters since this is your first time.

[Harvey]

Lyn mode will tell most of what you need to know because it is a tutorial for first timers. And what the others above me have said is very good advice the only other thing you will want to do is check the requirements for the Gaiden chapters since this is your first time.

Wait.....there's gaiden chapters in this game?!?!?! Are they as stressful and frustrating as Binding Blades?!?!

Also, when I started a new game by default, I didn't get a choice of which mode to choose and which character and all. So when do I get that choice?

Edited December 2, 2016 by Harvey

[Jave]

Wait.....there's gaiden chapters in this game?!?!?! Are they as stressful and frustrating as Binding Blades?!?!

Also, when I started a new game by default, I didn't get a choice of which mode to choose and which character and all. So when do I get that choice?

First time you play the game you're forced to play Lyn+Eliwood Normal mode. Beating that unlocks Lyn Hard mode, Eliwood Hard mode and Hector Normal mode. Starting with the second playthrough you're given the option to choose mode.

[Locke087]

Wait.....there's gaiden chapters in this game?!?!?! Are they as stressful and frustrating as Binding Blades?!?!

Also, when I started a new game by default, I didn't get a choice of which mode to choose and which character and all. So when do I get that choice?

Correct there are gaiden chapters and they're done a little bit differently than they are Blinding Blade have to fill special requirements within the maps to get some of them beyond the just low turn count requirements like Blinding Blade had. Most of the gaiden requirements are pretty straightforward in the sense that they just involve completing all the maps optional objective to reach the gaiden chapter (for example in one you have to prevent suicidal AI from killing themselves like Sophie's map except you can rescue them easier and it's less annoying in another you have to visit a certain village). Alternate versions of maps work much like they do in binding blade in that the are decided by certain character levels. There are no bull crap gimmicks in Blazing Sword quite like Light Arrows or the stupid tents of RNG, but snow, rain, fog, and disappearing tiles do all appear in this game in general. Blazing Sword also has multiple objectives so expect more than seize and defeat the boss. Blazing sword is also a very balanced game don't expect the balance issues of Blinding Blade, the game is also quite easier.

Jave covered this part, but I think you should know that Lyn normal mode in particular will be a pain in your butt, it is a really long tutorial that you cannot skip I love Lyn mode but is far more entertaining if you can play it on hard, if you're playing on a ROM get a save.

Edited December 2, 2016 by Locke087

[Quintessence]

You really don't need anything other than clear LNM because it tells you everything.

Only extra things to note is that most side quest chapters are unlocked by clearing them in less than 15 turns. Others have other requirements. You'd like to check the official site to get the full info.

[Harvey]

But are these gaiden chapters required to get to the best ending?

[Enaluxeme]

Only in Hector Hard Mode there's one (unique to that mode) that makes the ending slightly different. The only other thing that alters the ending are the A supports of Eliwood and Hector (especially NinianXEliwood).

[Locke087]

Also important to note that not doing gaiden chapters will not lock you out of doing any mainline chapters, though some gaiden chapters are connected to one another. Really I recommend doing the gaiden chapter frankly one the reasons I love this game is it's various alt chapters and gaiden chapters that make it feel dynamic. That being said the game will not force you to do them which is good.

Edited December 2, 2016 by Locke087

[eclipse]

. . .the fuck is this about gaiden chapters?

They're optional. Don't worry about it. You don't miss anything major by skipping them.

No, really, you don't. Keep in mind that this will be Eliwood NORMAL Mode. Sheesh, people.

[Harvey]

Ok so started the game and I'm in ch5 as Lyn being the lord and all.

So far I got Sain, Kent, Florina and Wil...oh and Dorcas I think? Are Sain and Kent the same level as Allen and Lance or are they inferior and a waste to use them?

While having played the other FE games before this might make somethings obvious, I understand the purpose of Lyn's mode and its done really well so I'm not disturbed if it teaches me the same mechanics again as I'm picturing this the first FE game that came to the west.

tbh, I actually like this mode because it progresses in the main story while letting you know about the core idea of the game...something which made me feel that Fates could've done better rather than having flashbacks of yourself teaching you this kind of thing.

EDIT: Also I don't understand the flak that Lyn gets through the community.... someone mentioned that she is a bad unit.....how is she a bad unit actually?

Edited December 3, 2016 by Harvey

[Dark Holy Elf]

She definitely isn't a bad unit. Kinda fragile until her evade gets going, but good speed and a neat Prf weapon.
(mild gameplay spoiler)

Said Prof weapon fully recharges at the end of Lyn Mode.

I wouldn't put Sain/Kent on the level of Alan/Lance as both do have statistical flaws but they're certainly solid and worth using at least to see how they turn out. IMO those three and Florina are the best combat units you get out of Lyn Mode. I also really like a light mage you get later but he's a bit more polarizing I think.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Dark Holy Elf

[eclipse]

Sain/Kent are decent enough. They have their flaws, but they're perfectly serviceable through the end of the game! Sain wants Skill and Speed, Kent wants Strength and Luck.

Lyn's stuck with swords for a long time. She's also relatively frail, which means that if she faces a bulkier lance unit or several accurate sword units, it's gonna suck.

Don't worry too much about using optimal units and whatnot. The first run of FE7 is forgiving enough with numbers that anyone can be used all the way to the end, so use whoever you think is cool.

[Harvey]

Lyn's stuck with swords for a long time. She's also relatively frail, which means that if she faces a bulkier lance unit or several accurate sword units, it's gonna suck.

Ok so which means I'm guessing that the hit rates are more balanced compared to FE6. I've heard from a lot that She can sort of singlehandedly swipe off the army like Ryoma...that true?

Also, does she avoid attacks like Rutger or does that mean its better off to someone else?

Edited December 3, 2016 by Harvey

[Magical Glace]

Ok so which means I'm guessing that the hit rates are more balanced compared to FE6. I've heard from a lot that She can sort of singlehandedly swipe off the army like Ryoma...that true?

Also, does she avoid attacks like Rutger or does that mean its better off to someone else?

If she has enough evade and you got lucky with her strength.

She takes a bit to get herself off the ground.

I find her preferable to Hector but I always preferred Eliwood as the first Heaven Seal, assuming Hector mode.

[Locke087]

Ok so which means I'm guessing that the hit rates are more balanced compared to FE6. I've heard from a lot that She can sort of singlehandedly swipe off the army like Ryoma...that true?

Also, does she avoid attacks like Rutger or does that mean its better off to someone else?

Lyn is a sword master and all but name but she definitely not anywhere near the region of OP that Ryoma and Rutger are especially early on, Also weapons are actually balance in this game therefor steel lances (which couldn't hit the broadside of a barn in Binding Blade) will actually hit her same with faster sword units. As for being able to wipe out Armies later on in the game you can give her terrain tile and watch her destroy, but she will never reach the level of chuck at map it doesn't matter where and your problems will be solved that Ryoma does, that and Birthright is just downright way easier game.

As to whether you should replace her I definitely do not recommend that on a first Playthough as she is forced in several chapters and with a possible except of Karel, she is the best sword master in the game. Blazing Sword is a highly balance to game as far as it's units go I would argue the most balanced in the series. You can use anyone you dang well please only people I recommend you avoid like the plague are Wallace and Karla (Nino is definitely not efficient, but is one of the better Ests). Fighters and Archers also maintain their classes inherent weaknesses though they are completely usable in this game. Just have fun don't really worry about it you're playing through a normal you'll be fine!

Edited December 3, 2016 by Locke087

[Jave]

Also, any stat boosters you get during Lyn mode, use them right away. You'll lose them once Lyn mode is over.

[Dark Holy Elf]

Ok so which means I'm guessing that the hit rates are more balanced compared to FE6. I've heard from a lot that She can sort of singlehandedly swipe off the army like Ryoma...that true?

Also, does she avoid attacks like Rutger or does that mean its better off to someone else?

To some extent it's true because avoid is really really good in the back half of this game (and hers is basically the highest), and once she has some more weapon triangle options (lancereavers are storebought in this game) you can keep her from being exploited by her weak points. However I certainly wouldn't say she's as good as Ryoma because she doesn't have 1-2 range. She's... a lot like NM Rutger in a vacuum (lower base def though) except that she has more competition; other FE7 units tend to be better (on raw stats, or when compared to enemies) than their FE6 equivalents.

[Shadow Mir]

Ok so which means I'm guessing that the hit rates are more balanced compared to FE6. I've heard from a lot that She can sort of singlehandedly swipe off the army like Ryoma...that true?

Also, does she avoid attacks like Rutger or does that mean its better off to someone else?

Not rly, at least early on. It's kinda true later on since FE7 enemies suck, except she doesn't get 2 range.

Yeah, though a lot of that goes back to FE7 enemies sucking, as well as terrain being plentiful. However, it is a lance heavy game.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Levant Mir Celestia

[Gradivus.]

Ok so which means I'm guessing that the hit rates are more balanced compared to FE6. I've heard from a lot that She can sort of singlehandedly swipe off the army like Ryoma...that true?

Also, does she avoid attacks like Rutger or does that mean its better off to someone else?

Lyn sure as hell doesn't measure up to Ryoma or Rutger. The former is 5 times bulkier before even counting avo (which Lyn is worse at), and the latter has stellar crit rates and is above average as a bosskiller, both of which she has on average or below. Rutger is also bulkier and more evasive than Lyn, having better bases, and getting both his promo item earlier and better promo gains.

Edited December 4, 2016 by Gradivus.

[Quintessence]

As others have said, Blazing Sword is somewhat of a forgiving game and lets you use a bunch ton of units as if you were in a lab, especially on NM and even EHM. Hector Hard Mode is the most challenging of all and required much more thought than the others.

[eclipse]

GUYS. This is a FIRST RUN which will be ENM. Don't forget context!

If Lyn's killing things at a decent clip, there's no need to drop her. The mantra I had for FE7 is "if a unit is doing well, keep 'em on the team". It leads to some. . .interesting compositions!