Do the stats of parents in FE4 matter?

[omglmaowtf]

Will the parents' stats by chapter 5 matter, when it comes to the part 2 kids? Because certain parents like Dew can't combat hence gain exp & level throughout the whole chapters 1 - 5; so will his son & daughter become horribly gimped?

[Shin]

Marginally, the final stats of the parents contribute slightly to the kids, but it's never really more than a couple of points, the growths usually decide how they turn out.

[Tables]

Ehh... it doesn't make a huge difference, but for the same gendered child it's pretty significant. Like as a slightly extreme example, a level 1 Dew would likely pass down stats about 2-3 points worse across the board to his son than a level 30 Dew, and that's a good 4-5 levels of growth for even a child, who only have 29 levels of growth each. In the long run, they probably cap everything or come close, but it does make them weaker for a bit.

But like I said, extreme example. Dew can easily be around level 10-15 by the end of Gen 1 with little effort, and likely higher. And the difference between level 20 and 30 parents is not huge.

Edited March 30, 2014 by Tables

[Jedi]

Considering Dew can fight the cross knights (as shin proves in drafts) I think your impression of Dew is a tad inaccurate but yeah the stats don't influence nearly as much as the growths.

[Tamanoir]

It can help Celice tank mages easier if you put some level on Diadora.

In Sety's case, it can ended up being detrimental, oif I'm not mistaken (Because its Spd stat is so freaking high)

[Guy Starwind]

If even it does matter much I always try to make the parents as strong as possible.

[omglmaowtf]

Ok, this is unrelated but I don't feel like making a new topic:

I have trouble pairing Rachesis because, frankly, not many husbands are viable for her kids

the other pairings I've planned:

Briggid with Lex - Patty is the hardest 2nd Gen character to level hence will need Elite, Ambush, & daddy's Def growths most (not sure if even this Patty can hit level 20 without the Pursuit ring)

Adean with Beowolf - Other than bow inheritance, he could be better for Lester than Midayle
Aira with Holyn - Can't believe I haven't tried this before
Tailtyu with Azel - Pursuit, Magic, Skill and Speed for the kids
Ferry with Levyn - Since Arthur's got a dad planned, this is the other pairing to get Forseti into the 2nd Gen

Sylvia's kids aren't combatants so their dad don't matter (I may even try Ardan for the lulz)

Thing is Rachesis's kids are a fighter & the other is a fighter/healer; but Nanna will always be an inferior paladin to Ethlin

e.g. level 30 Fin!Nanna has 5 Magic. Leif & Fee are significantly superior mounted healers.

Is Magic stat important when it comes to healing or can Nanna even use the Rank B Recover staff? If Magic matters little in healing then how does Alec or even Midayle fare as Delmud & Nanna's dad? If nothing else at least they pass down Pursuit

Edited April 5, 2014 by omglmaowtf

[gringe]

Finn is a decent option for Raquesis. I've played the game many times, though, and her kids simply aren't spectacular no matter what you do so don't stress too much.

[Duke of Dozel]

If even it does matter much I always try to make the parents as strong as possible.

Unless it's FuryxLevin, this is what should be done.

Finn is a decent option for Raquesis. I've played the game many times, though, and her kids simply aren't spectacular no matter what you do so don't stress too much.

This. Delmud can turn into a great fighter with the right parent, but Nanna will always be inferior to her Master Knight mother. Finn giving Nanna +5 speed is nice, though.

[Guy Starwind]

Fin is my personal choice. Because her kids have charisma I always have them in the fray giving that extra boost. The power of pray has helped me save their lives more than once while in those frays.

[omglmaowtf]

In Sety's case, it can ended up being detrimental, oif I'm not mistaken (Because its Spd stat is so freaking high)

Is there any way around this? Like what should Fury & Levin's max speed be by part 1 so that Sety's speed doesn't get resetted?

I tried the alternative that's pair Levin with Tailtyu but even with Holsety Arthur loses against the falconknight trio & even Chapter 10 Ishtar if he's without the Pursuit ring.

[Cymbalina's Revenge]

Ok, this is unrelated but I don't feel like making a new topic:

Is Magic stat important when it comes to healing or can Nanna even use the Rank B Recover staff? If Magic matters little in healing then how does Alec or even Midayle fare as Delmud & Nanna's dad? If nothing else at least they pass down Pursuit

Alec!Nanna and Delmud turn out fine. Solid B-players. Nanna's magic was awful but once Leif and Fee promoted it didn't much matter.

[Tables]

Is there any way around this? Like what should Fury & Levin's max speed be by part 1 so that Sety's speed doesn't get resetted?

I tried the alternative that's pair Levin with Tailtyu but even with Holsety Arthur loses against the falconknight trio & even Chapter 10 Ishtar if he's without the Pursuit ring.

If I understand where the formula rounds correctly (which isn't 100% clear), you pretty much need a base Lewyn and a Ferry whose gained at most 1 speed to avoid it. Doing the calculations, Sety's base SPD addition is 13*1.05 = 13.65 (which floors to 13) and it'll loop around the moment he hits 15*. Both Lewyn and Ferry have a base of 6 speed, which gives an addition of 1.8 - rounding down to 1, giving Sety a base speed addition of 14. If Lewyn gains a single point of speed - with a 90% growth - then Sety's parent addition will become 2 and so he'll end up with 15 speed, which causes a wraparound to 0.

*Here's something I'm not convinced on. The site says it's mod 15, but the game records stats in a 4 bit (16 value) system, so I'd expect it to be mod 16. If that's the case, you can safely gain a small number of levels before the glitch kicks in - you could gain 5 speed with Lewyn and 1 speed with Ferry, or 4 speed with Lewyn and 3 speed with Ferry, or 3 and 5, or 2 and 7, or 1 with Lewyn and any amount with Ferry.

I don't really think it's worthwhile to keep Lewyn and Ferry at a low level to make Sety have as high speed as possible going in to gen 2. Sety uses lightweight magic which makes his base 16-17 speed generally sufficient, while the speed grows at a ludicrous rate anyway.

For reference here's an untrained parents Lewyn!Sety's base stats compared to level 30 parents base stats:

          HP ST MG SK SP LK DF RS
Untrained 40  2 20 19 29 11  7 13
Trained   45  3 21 21 17 12  9 14

Personally, considering the 105% speed growth, I'd rather choose the second option, if the choice had no implications in first gen. And considering the former choice would require foregoing one of the best units in gen 1...

[Refa]

^^Two of them, Fury's pretty clutch.

Considering Dew can fight the cross knights (as shin proves in drafts) I think your impression of Dew is a tad inaccurate but yeah the stats don't influence nearly as much as the growths.

Dew fighting the Cross Knights is certainly not the easiest method of fighting them, so I don't see why having a low leveled Dew at the end of Gen 1 would be considered inaccurate.

Finn is a decent option for Raquesis. I've played the game many times, though, and her kids simply aren't spectacular no matter what you do so don't stress too much.

Having Charisma makes them spectacular on their own. Being able to survive and Charisma bot is pretty important actually.

[Damosel]

I managed to get Deirdre to level 30 before she went bye bye. I aim to max Sigurd out too, but mostly I'll be curious to see if it makesany difference with Celice.

Deirdre end stats:
strength 5
magic 23
skill 15
speed 13
luck 6
defense 5
resistence 25

Did a lot of boss/mob grinding during the run so Ethlyn capped early with staff abuse. I wanted to max Cuan too, but after he reached level 25 he'd only gain 8 exp for a kill (and that's with the Elite ring) so I threw that plan out the window, he'll be fine at level 26. Again, mostly curious to see if/how it'll impact Leif and Altenna.

Ethlyn end stats:
strength 16
magic 12
skill 22
speed 24
luck 12
defense 19
resistence 9

Cuan end stats:
strength 27
magic 1
skill 19
speed 16
luck 6
defense 21
resistence 7

I'll post here again once I finally see the results.

[PuffPuff]

Will the parents' stats by chapter 5 matter, when it comes to the part 2 kids? Because certain parents like Dew can't combat hence gain exp & level throughout the whole chapters 1 - 5; so will his son & daughter become horribly gimped?

Give him the Light Sword early in the game and then he gets either the Wind/Thunder Sword by the end of ch3. He can't be raised no other way.

Finn is a decent option for Raquesis. I've played the game many times, though, and her kids simply aren't spectacular no matter what you do so don't stress too much.

Raquesis should either pair with Finn, Beowolf or Alec.

Finn would probably be best for her kids to abuse the arenas thanks to Miracle.

[omglmaowtf]

The reason I asked about gen 1 playable parents' stats is because they have much worse growths than FE1 Jagen; if you're lucky enough to not have a zero stat-up levelup, it's the rare only other possibility: +1 max HP. All of them, even Sigurd & Dew.

Is there any way to re-roll/reset the RNG string in FE4 like you can in the GBA & DS games?

[Cymbalina's Revenge]

The reason I asked about gen 1 playable parents' stats is because they have much worse growths than FE1 Jagen; if you're lucky enough to not have a zero stat-up levelup, it's the rare only other possibility: +1 max HP. All of them, even Sigurd & Dew.

Is there any way to re-roll/reset the RNG string in FE4 like you can in the GBA & DS games?

Lose in the arena. Or beat the arena.

My Azel got a 4-stat-up level up last night, so it's definitely possible to get fine level-ups out of Gen1.