Barkly Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Okay, so... I've been following this game since the first Nintendo Direct teaser. I'm pretty interested in getting it if/when it hits overseas. BUT the simple fact is that I've never played a SMT game and I'm actually not much of a Fire Emblem fan. (like... super casually a fan, I guess) To be blunt, I'm a big Marth fan, and him being in a game can be a selling point for me. (Codename STEAM, for example) I need to know if he's in this game, in any way shape or form... but I also don't want plot spoilers... I understand that my request is probably in direct contradiction with itself but, if I may, I want to pose a few questions. I ask that anyone with enough knowledge of the game answer them for me in as few (but factual) words as possible. If it's not related to Marth then don't spoil it for me please! (Thanks to anyone that takes the time... I feel like a massive dork right now...) First: Is Marth in this game? AT ALL, even a little. Yes or No. Second: If 'yes', then is it a large role or a phoning-it-in cameo appearance? Somewhere in-between? Third: If he's more than a cameo, is he good or evil? (I know this game has made some of the good guys into enemies) And is he playable or not playable? (like a Mirage? not that I have my hopes up...) Fourth: ...Is Itsuki actually Marth? Be honest with me. I can't help but wonder if this the trick up their sleeve. Is it ever implied? or straight up stated as a fact? (literally a reincarnation, or other plot magic) Finally: I've seen a picture of some kind of Marth outfit for Itsuki, but I don't know any details. Is it actually supposed to be Marth? And is it plot important or just a visual change? (I'll admit this is my basis for the previous question...) Give it to me straight. I'd rather you break my heart now than wait till I've spent sixty dollars on a game he's not in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Geek Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 As I understand it [spoiler=Here be Spoilers] The playable party meet the Mirage version of Marth (Mirages being the SMT demon-esque versions of the Fire Emblem characters) near the end of the game and he gives Itsuki some sort of power up that makes him look like a Super Saiyan version of Marth. That's as far as I understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maritisa Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 From what I can gather, only as some kind of Eleventh Hour Super Power giver in the endgame. Also, the Marth fanboyism is hilariously real. You're a goofball. xP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autismoe Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Going with the game's theme of "Reincarnation," I like to interpret it as Itsuki is as the vessel for the FE lords. He may not be Marth in body, but he is Marth in spirit. In my opinion, yes Marth plays in the game not just as a cameo, but part of the protagonist's character. This is just my personal interpretation though, and not everyone could see Itsuki as Marth. Marth in this game is a big factor for me to buy it too honestly. Edited January 28, 2016 by autismoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) I've just beaten the game! Okay, so... I've been following this game since the first Nintendo Direct teaser. I'm pretty interested in getting it if/when it hits overseas. BUT the simple fact is that I've never played a SMT game and I'm actually not much of a Fire Emblem fan. (like... super casually a fan, I guess) To be blunt, I'm a big Marth fan, and him being in a game can be a selling point for me. (Codename STEAM, for example) I need to know if he's in this game, in any way shape or form... but I also don't want plot spoilers... I understand that my request is probably in direct contradiction with itself but, if I may, I want to pose a few questions. I ask that anyone with enough knowledge of the game answer them for me in as few (but factual) words as possible. If it's not related to Marth then don't spoil it for me please! (Thanks to anyone that takes the time... I feel like a massive dork right now...) First: Is Marth in this game? AT ALL, even a little. Yes or No. Second: If 'yes', then is it a large role or a phoning-it-in cameo appearance? Somewhere in-between? Third: If he's more than a cameo, is he good or evil? (I know this game has made some of the good guys into enemies) And is he playable or not playable? (like a Mirage? not that I have my hopes up...) Fourth: ...Is Itsuki actually Marth? Be honest with me. I can't help but wonder if this the trick up their sleeve. Is it ever implied? or straight up stated as a fact? (literally a reincarnation, or other plot magic) Finally: I've seen a picture of some kind of Marth outfit for Itsuki, but I don't know any details. Is it actually supposed to be Marth? And is it plot important or just a visual change? (I'll admit this is my basis for the previous question...) Give it to me straight. I'd rather you break my heart now than wait till I've spent sixty dollars on a game he's not in. [spoiler=Just answering those querstions, but maybe others will regard even this spoiler, so...]First: Yes. Second: Somewhere in-between. Third: Unambiguously good. The Marth outfit you mentioned is available, but Marth himself is not. Forth: No. Yeah, he feels rather Marth-like personality-wise, but none of the mirage masters are stated to be reincarnations or anything. Fifth: I'm not going to answer this directly. It's what it appears to be: Itsuki in Marth's outfit. Again, Marth is not playable. ​ Okay, if you really want to know what's happened to Marth... [spoiler=Actual spoilers]Marth, along with a few other heroes, are historical figures. They exist in their own realm as spirits, and Itsuki's company challenge them to obtain them. When it comes to Itsuki's turn, they found that they were too late since Garnef and his "master" are already at it, stealing Marth's spirit. Attempt to recover it failed, and Garnef's spirit kidnapped it to join it with Medeus. During the finale... [spoiler=Nested spoiler! You know what this means]Itsuki is struck, and the other spirits retrieve Marth's spirit from Medeus. Marth revives Itsuki, giving him the Marth outfit in the process. Marth doesn't become his mirage though, as his sword is still 100% Chrom at that point. Marth's spirit leaves after the final fight without leaving a word. I don't think he has many lines to start with. (He's still voiced by Midorigawa, in case you're wondering.) [spoiler=Setting]In case you noticed that "historical figure" thing, this game doesn't explain why Shiida is here but not Marth. The ending shows that they're from the same world, so either Shiida lived to be 2000+ or this world has nothing to do with FE canon. Probably the latter, since Tiki is a child. [spoiler=Tiki's ending]She is also said to hold concerts after returning with the help of Chrom and the others, which is a direct contradiction with FE cannon. Also, for your information: In terms of having presence in the game, they can be ordered thusly - Chrom, Shiida, Tharja, Tiki - Other playable mirages (Cain, Draug, Virion, Navarre) - Rival mirages (Abel, etc) - One-timers who don't have personal bonds with playable mirages Edited January 28, 2016 by nocturnal YL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkly Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Thanks for the prompt answers guys! @The Geek: Thanks. That's about what I imagined. Super Saiyan is right... I can't say I care for that crazy hair, not very 'Marth'. @Ritisa: Oh, it's real. And it's here to stay. (I have no idea when this happened actually...) Also, thanks? ha ha @autismoe: Interesting. I'm thinking this interpretation could make the game more appealing to me. @nocturnal YL: Congrats! Also, thanks, very helpful. I didn't read your second spoiler though (just in case). I think I know what I need now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardan Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Is roy in this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitoRequiem Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Only characters from Fire Emblem 11(12 too?) and Awakening appear in this game. So negative no Roy.Also hello fellow Marth fanboy glad to see there is more of us in the West(I assume you're from the West anyways :P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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