Extreme Weight Loss Diet: Day 1 out of 7!

[Junkhead]

http://www.fitmole.org/how-much-weight-can-you-lose-in-a-week/

Going to be doing this, starting tomorrow.

Da Rules (if anyone else happens to be interested...!)

- 800 kcal a day, for 7 days (aka, a miserable amount of food).

...okay, that's less than I expected. Every other "rule" is actually a handful of VERY useful pieces of advice to help one go through this:

- Emphasis on nutrition, ESPECIALLY protein. My protein intake is going to be AT LEAST 70g (even though I aim for 75-80g). At least 1-2 servings of fruit and a variety of vegetables with my meals. While you CAN lose weight by just eatling less (yes, even if it's junk food), you're not going to want to mess yourself up like that.

- Lots of water. Aiming for the usual 8 cups a day (at least). It can also come in the way of tea, coffee and things like fruits and vegetables. The idea is that it satiates hunger and, in my experience, it seems to help digestion oh-so-well. Water intake is pretty key.

- Some form of fasting. Since you'll (I) be eating only 800 kcal a day...you're going to want to make it satisfying. In that case, I tend to go for eating 1 meal a day, that being dinner (Dinfast!?). Splitting into more meals isn't really a great idea, ¿since that would make the meals even smaller...also, another thing, I've read that fasting stimulates HGH (Human Growth Hormone) when you workout.

- KEEP YOURSELF BUSY. This is everything. You're going to want to have a busy schedule, doing this. In my case, the hardest part is skipping breakfast (because I love breakfast). However, around the afternoon, things just warp-skip over to Dinner because of school and later gym. It'll be almost or at least 8 p.m by the time I come back home.

I'll be logging this Day-By-Day, with the meals and how I go about it through the day.

Anyway, wish me luck. (:

[spoiler=Day 1]Day 1

It's hilarious how many times I decide to go into aggressive cutting, it ALWAYS starts on a Thursday. It also happens to be one of the more (if not, the most) smooth-running days, so it goes by rather quickly, without much of any complications. It does help when you wake up rather "late", which was around 11 a.m, in my case. Skipping breakfast, arguably the hardest meal to skip (because I love it), went pretty smooth. Started with two bottles of water (about 750 ml, each) and later about 1/2 cup of coffee. Later, a bunch of tea (4 cups). Come by the afternoon, and, school happens. Basically, I warpskip a few hours and then I go over to the gym. I started doing squats :D. I come back home and,

MEAL TIME

Food                                      Calories    Protein
 
Protein Shake*                              220          43
Tuna Sandwhich**                            165          18
A few chunks of meat                        130          12
Regula & Tomato Salad                     100-130        eh
Light Yogurt w/ Kiwii                       100           6
1/3 cup of coffee w/ sugar                   20         lawl

Protein: 80-85g (not sure about the meat)

Calories: 755-785 (my mother put a tsp of oil in the salad, AT BEST)

*(1 scoop of vanilla WHEY, 3 egg whites, about 1/2 cup of coffee, 1/3 a cup of milk, some ice and a tiny bit of sweetener)

** (w/ 1 egg white, fried in a tiny bit of butter)

Difficulty: *

Drank 6 water bottles, 4 cups of tea and about a total of 1 cup of coffee.

So, like I said, the day ran pretty smoothly. Kind of expected it. Let's see how I do on, say...Sunday? It's probably my hardest day, since I have no school or gym, even. And let's just hope I don't run over for a midnight snack. ;u;

Edited September 19, 2014 by The Gluttony

[MercyWalk]

This seems dodgy as fuck, especially with such a vague sample study

Can I just ask why you're choosing to cut like this? Are you planning to go on a normal cutting diet or something right after or are you just gonna go back to the same weight, because if so this just doesn't sound fun.

This website sounds like the section of the newspaper where they bait out people into following their new cool diets through attention grabbing headlines but give hardly any reputable sources on validation

Edited September 18, 2014 by Alb

[eclipse]

Soul, I strongly suggest talking to your doctor before doing anything really drastic with your diet.

[Phoenix Wright]

see, this is what i was talking about when i said "extreme low-cal diets are bad for you."

there's 380 kcal in 70g of protein alone, and that's not even enough protein to keep your muscles growing really, usually it's your body weight in grams (regardless of cutting or bulking). i'm guessing you're 140-150, so that's actually about 800 kcal from protein alone.

but say you take 70g. the other 420 kcal is as large as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. yes, switched out for fruits and veggies it'll seemingly be a larger meal, and you'll certainly be eating healthier, but an 800 kcal diet for a week is dangerous, period.

edit: actually, it's 280 kcal for 70g of protein. but still, it's very dangerous.

Edited September 18, 2014 by Phoenix Wright

[Parrhesia]

Don't do this.

[dondon151]

8 cups of water per day isn't even a thing. there's no rule about drinking 8 cups of water per day.

fun fact: the average caloric intake of a person with anorexia nervosa is less than 800 calories per day. congratulations, soul, you've reached that point.

[Loki Laufeyson]

Soul, I strongly suggest talking to your doctor before doing anything really drastic with your diet.

Yes, this.

I was on a 1200 calorie a day diet a while back and that was kinda hard to adjust to. For someone like yourself, i would suggest 2000 a day. But yeah talk to your doc.

Don't do this.

Also this.

[Phoenix Wright]

i don't think 2000 a day is cutting for him haha.

[Sifer]

Don't do it. The healthy amount to lose is 2 pounds a week achieved by cutting calories/excercising to burn off 1000 cal a day.\

Also skipping breakfast is bad. Your body uses breakfast to start up your digestive system for the day to break down fat.

Also if you eat very little your body will go into "starvation mode" and it will be very hard to lose weight.

Edited September 18, 2014 by Sifer

[MercyWalk]

But guys! I've made it to 6 days before! No repercussions!

Nah son, cut in a healthy manner and not through some EXTREME GET RIPPED QUICK diet, yes, the author says you shouldn't do it past 1 week but this is because it's simply just not healthy nor a good way to cut at all, i'm willing to bet the author knows this and is just putting it up for website traffic/publicity/money

Edited September 18, 2014 by Alb

[Junkhead]

This seems dodgy as fuck, especially with such a vague sample study

Can I just ask why you're choosing to cut like this? Are you planning to go on a normal cutting diet or something right after or are you just gonna go back to the same weight, because if so this just doesn't sound fun.

This website sounds like the section of the newspaper where they bait out people into following their new cool diets through attention grabbing headlines but give hardly any reputable sources on validation

I'm only doing this aggressive, wreckless cutting THIS week ONLY because I want to make things quicker. I've wasted waaay too much time trying this, and I usually ended up losing weight a snail's pace. A little before mid year, though, I could do this with some solid amount of success. And, yeah, I'll just go with a more "normal" way of cutting, after this. Something, like, 500 kcal deficit + cardio.

Also, why would I go back to my original weight (intentionally?)?

see, this is what i was talking about when i said "extreme low-cal diets are bad for you."

there's 380 kcal in 70g of protein alone, and that's not even enough protein to keep your muscles growing really, usually it's your body weight in grams (regardless of cutting or bulking). i'm guessing you're 140-150, so that's actually about 800 kcal from protein alone.

but say you take 70g. the other 420 kcal is as large as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. yes, switched out for fruits and veggies it'll seemingly be a larger meal, and you'll certainly be eating healthier, but an 800 kcal diet for a week is dangerous, period.

edit: actually, it's 280 kcal for 70g of protein. but still, it's very dangerous.

Yeah, well, with that in mind, I won't be eating any peanut butter n' jelly sandwhich. lawl. I mean, if you've seen some of my previous threads, I just got a newfound love for peanut butter (we don't have much of it, over here). I'm sure I can sneak in a bit of it. I'm sure. And isn't 280 kcal of 70g of protein PURE protein? I mean, I do have plenty of whey protein and eggs, but...I don't go around using them all like that, just because. However, I don't have much trouble meeting those requirements as it is.

8 cups of water per day isn't even a thing. there's no rule about drinking 8 cups of water per day.

fun fact: the average caloric intake of a person with anorexia nervosa is less than 800 calories per day. congratulations, soul, you've reached that point.

lol

Anorexic people don't even lift...which is why they're so shapeless. It doesn't work like that, either. :x At least, I'm doing this only for one week.

It actually is pretty funny...I could've sworn that anorexic people "ate" significantly less than that.

Yes, this.

I was on a 1200 calorie a day diet a while back and that was kinda hard to adjust to. For someone like yourself, i would suggest 2000 a day. But yeah talk to your doc.

Well, yeah, it's going to be hard...and it HAS to be worth it, too.

i don't think 2000 a day is cutting for him haha.

...it's actually pretty sad funny how that's either about my maintainance calories or 100 more than them...I'd love to have an amazing metabolism (not that my own is bad, it's just average for a person my age).

Don't do it. The healthy amount to lose is 2 pounds a week achieved by cutting calories/excercising to burn off 1000 cal a day.\

Also skipping breakfast is bad. Your body uses breakfast to start up your digestive system for the day to break down fat.

Also if you eat very little your body will go into "starvation mode" and it will be very hard to lose weight.

At 800 kcal, I'm about the same as burning off 1000 kcal a day...except, it's better with cardio, which, allows you to eat more and stuff. It's actually not bad advice.

But guys! I've made it to 6 days before! No repercussions!

Nah son, cut in a healthy manner and not through some EXTREME GET RIPPED QUICK diet, yes, the author says you shouldn't do it past 1 week but this is because it's simply just not healthy nor a good way to cut at all, i'm willing to bet the author knows this and is just putting it up for website traffic/publicity/money

I actually think it was 5, lol. I'm sure it is, now.

Thanks for the support, guys. It's not the kind of "yeah you can do it", thing, but...it's definitely nice to hear people care, lol.

Anyway, I'm still trying it out. I'm sure I can do it, thanks to you guys.

[Junkhead]

Decided to make this into another post, so it doesn't clog up the other one:

Day 1

It's hilarious how many times I decide to go into aggressive cutting, it ALWAYS starts on a Thursday. It also happens to be one of the more (if not, the most) smooth-running days, so it goes by rather quickly, without much of any complications. It does help when you wake up rather "late", which was around 11 a.m, in my case. Skipping breakfast, arguably the hardest meal to skip (because I love it), went pretty smooth. Started with two bottles of water (about 750 ml, each) and later about 1/2 cup of coffee. Later, a bunch of tea (4 cups). Come by the afternoon, and, school happens. Basically, I warpskip a few hours and then I go over to the gym. I started doing squats :D. I come back home and,

MEAL TIME

Food                                      Calories    Protein
 
Protein Shake*                              220          43
Tuna Sandwhich**                            165          18
A few chunks of meat                        130          12
Regula & Tomato Salad                     100-130        eh
Light Yogurt w/ Kiwii                       100           6
1/3 cup of coffee w/ sugar                   20         lawl

Protein: 80-85g (not sure about the meat)

Calories: 755-785 (my mother put a tsp of oil in the salad, AT BEST)

*(1 scoop of vanilla WHEY, 3 egg whites, about 1/2 cup of coffee, 1/3 a cup of milk, some ice and a tiny bit of sweetener)

** (w/ 1 egg white, fried in a tiny bit of butter)

Difficulty: *

Drank 6 water bottles, 4 cups of tea and about a total of 1 cup of coffee.

So, like I said, the day ran pretty smoothly. Kind of expected it. Let's see how I do on, say...Sunday? It's probably my hardest day, since I have no school or gym, even. And let's just hope I don't run over for a midnight snack. ;u;

Edited September 19, 2014 by The Gluttony

[Randa]

Soul I'm gonna give ya the best advice I can on this matter. Don't do it. It is extremely dangerous to do this type of thing

I'm only doing this aggressive, wreckless cutting THIS week ONLY because I want to make things quicker. I've wasted waaay too much time trying this, and I usually ended up losing weight a snail's pace. A little before mid year, though, I could do this with some solid amount of success. And, yeah, I'll just go with a more "normal" way of cutting, after this. Something, like, 500 kcal deficit + cardio.

Soul I can't imagine you're anywhere near fat. I don't see why you would wanna rush losing weight in your situation. And in general things concerning your body should not be rushed. Take it from the guy who shoulda just sat out the last 4 weeks of his senior year of high school football and instead messed up his knee coming back too soon and now needs surgery and has to redshirt his freshman year of college football. Rushing isn't worth it. Take it slowly and safely.

Also, why would I go back to my original weight (intentionally?)?

I wanna get back to my original weight. 240 just doesn't feel right I would prefer a 260.

Well, yeah, it's going to be hard...and it HAS to be worth it, too.

That's the thing soul. It doesn't have to be worth and most of the time it isn't. One of my friends spent two and a half weeks in the hospital trying to cut 6 pounds in a week so he could wrestle. It doesn't have to be anything. It's not safe.

I don't know if you'll actually take my advice or listen to what I said, but even if you go through with it just be careful.

Edited September 19, 2014 by Randa

[Parrhesia]

Thanks for the support, guys. It's not the kind of "yeah you can do it", thing, but...it's definitely nice to hear people care, lol.

Anyway, I'm still trying it out. I'm sure I can do it, thanks to you guys.

when i and the entire rest of sf said 'don't do this' it wasn't a fucking dare it was a legitimate statement about your physical and possibly mental well-being for fuck's sake

[MercyWalk]

I'm only doing this aggressive, wreckless cutting THIS week ONLY because I want to make things quicker. I've wasted waaay too much time trying this, and I usually ended up losing weight a snail's pace. A little before mid year, though, I could do this with some solid amount of success. And, yeah, I'll just go with a more "normal" way of cutting, after this. Something, like, 500 kcal deficit + cardio.

Quite frankly we're all just a bunch of nerds on the internet so saying DONT DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS isn't exactly backed up and our opinions don't exactly have much leverage on the situation.

Bruh how much do you even weigh and what's your height? I believe it's unnecessary if you're at a healthy body weight already and have the time to cut. PSMF diets are very strict, and they do work, but it's HELL and strains both your body and mind, I congratulate you if you do succeed in this. However I do recommend you read Lyle McDonald's The Rapid Fat Loss Handbook, which essentially goes into detail of what you're doing right now and provides additional information such as what exercises you should do to assist in this, although he does push it to 2 weeks rather than 1. Most people's metabolisms are GENERALLY the same, with small differences, it's not you losing weight at a snail's pace but because it's normal to lose it at that pace.

You will lose muscle mass but it will be minuscule through this so I can see why you want to follow through, especially if it's only for one week. However, following a planned routine from a nutritionist you've personally spoken to would be a better, safer and optimized way to go through with cutting. Now it's obvious you want to continue with this but i'm just saying there's really no need to cut ASAP like this unless you're looking to compete in a specific weight class for a sport within ~2 weeks.

As for wanting to go back to your original weight intentionally, I wouldn't know. People just like to try out new diets to prove if they're right or wrong and i'm not new to this sort of thing, which is why I asked.

Edited September 19, 2014 by Alb

[dondon151]

lol

Anorexic people don't even lift...which is why they're so shapeless. It doesn't work like that, either. :x At least, I'm doing this only for one week.

this is actually very false. anorexia nervosa is a psychological disorder that manifests as a distorted conception of self-image. anorexics tend to work out all the time. they're shapeless because they don't have sufficient calorie intake to simultaneously meet their metabolic needs and preserve muscle mass.

the problem that i don't understand is, you can literally spread out this regimen over two weeks and get the same amount of weight loss. why not do that? why is one week so important?

Edited September 19, 2014 by dondon151

[Phoenix Wright]

Soul I'm gonna give ya the best advice I can on this matter. Don't do it. It is extremely dangerous to do this type of thing

Soul I can't imagine you're anywhere near fat. I don't see why you would wanna rush losing weight in your situation. And in general things concerning your body should not be rushed. Take it from the guy who shoulda just sat out the last 4 weeks of his senior year of high school football and instead messed up his knee coming back too soon and now needs surgery and has to redshirt his freshman year of college football. Rushing isn't worth it. Take it slowly and safely.

if i may ask--div i-a school?

Quite frankly we're all just a bunch of nerds on the internet so saying DONT DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S EXTREMELY DANGEROUS isn't exactly backed up and our opinions don't exactly have much leverage on the situation.

i mean, yeah i guess, but two things:

1. i'm preeeetty sure dondon is a med student currently in grad/med school

2. we may not be medical students ourselves, but it's quite clear that most of us know what sorts of sources are reliable. i'm sure if any of us wanted to, we could bring up compelling sources detailing why extreme low-cal diets are not to be tried.

this is actually very false. anorexia nervosa is a psychological disorder that manifests as a distorted conception of self-image. anorexics tend to work out all the time. they're shapeless because they don't have sufficient calorie intake to simultaneously meet their metabolic needs and preserve muscle mass.

the problem that i don't understand is, you can literally spread out this regimen over two weeks and get the same amount of weight loss. why not do that? why is one week so important?

like i said in his last topic (i think it was his last topic), it's because it's an obsession. lots of folks on /fit/ and the like are sort of insane when it comes to gainz and cutting.

[dondon151]

1. i'm preeeetty sure dondon is a med student currently in grad/med school

yes, this is true, but my advice is not professional.

[eclipse]

What part of "consult a doctor" was so hard to understand? That wasn't to support you, that was to let you know that you're doing something extremely stupid and rash that may end up with serious consequences (passing out being the least of them). Either way, if you start doing things like fainting in public, it's time to stop the diet. Human bodies weren't designed to run on super-low-calorie diets for extended periods of time.

[Phoenix Wright]

yes, this is true, but my advice is not professional.

i get that, but i'm assuming you're one of the most knowledgeable on the subject (here), making your advice not worthless. of course he should do as eclipse says and consult a doctor, though.

[MercyWalk]

if i may ask--div i-a school?

i mean, yeah i guess, but two things:

1. i'm preeeetty sure dondon is a med student currently in grad/med school

2. we may not be medical students ourselves, but it's quite clear that most of us know what sorts of sources are reliable. i'm sure if any of us wanted to, we could bring up compelling sources detailing why extreme low-cal diets are not to be tried

Oh yeah no doubt, i was just saying it as a disclaimer sort of thing.

[Randa]

[spoiler=@phoniex]
Nah only D3. I missed 3 games and played pretty badly for my last four games senior year. And it's not like my knee was the first time I'd had injury problems. High ankle sprain and dislocated wrist aren't exactly boons to a playing career. Got a couple d2 offers but the total cost of attendance wasn't worth it IMO.

Edited September 20, 2014 by Randa

[Raven]

Sounds bad as many people have already stated. I wouldn't even think about doing something so drastic and foolish.

If you're looking to lose weight (Why? You're a fucking stick, son. It's muscle you want to build, I'm sure) then cutting carbohydrates down to no more than 10g per 100g, and eating fatty foods like steaks, bacon, chicken, etc. while still eating your veggies does amazing things. Putting your body into a ketogenic state (where your body burns your fat reserves for energy as opposed to the easiest thing it could use (carbohydrates)) has done great things for a lot of people (see /r/keto and the before/after images posted by users).

Right now I'm hungry in work, but when I get home I'm gonna defrost a huge chunk of steak, fry that fucker to medium-well, and eat it all with a side of those small tomatoes. On top of that, eating meat is great for muscle-building.

[RandomX2]

Feel free to experiment how you want. My 2 cents are that long-term diet changes (i.e. remove junk, add fruits) powerfully trump short term diets. Also, 800 Calories is too low in almost any possible situation. I'd not do what you're doing, but then again, it's your body.

[Junkhead]

You guys are adorable- And horribly influential, as well. Hah.

I messed up. Thanks so much, guys.

Uhhhh, anyway. Raven, low-carb diets are a terribad idea. I'd rather stick with simple diet (calories in, calories out. Done. Poom. Period). It works. I heard that low-carb is only really a problem on the more over-weight individuals, because they tend to retain water. That's also the kinds of diet that put too much stress on people, in my opinion. The first time I tried that, I went nuts over it and started developing a sort of attachment for sweets (which, I was indifferent, towards). Then I just started counting calories again, and, guess what? It worked. Not to mention, it cuts off good food like FRUITS (there's like 20g of carbs in an apple, in itself), pasta, rice, bread and important protein sources (in my case, at least), like lentils and soy. I mean, I do love myself a fair share of meat, but...it's just a tad too expensive, over here. At least, to eat as much as one would hope so (about more than once a day).

My resolve is to just take it slow. Because, honestly, what's the rush? I started asking myself that. That's the kind of stuff that just made me constantly break my "diet", in and out. Although, I wouldn't say I haven't had any success...