Paperblade Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 Mind spoiling the first turn for me? I took 12 turns when I tried it out, and I'd like to try again and cut down. Matthew open left door Astor open right door Hector recruit Barth Barth moves above Hector and rescues him Oswin moves so that Barth can hand him off to him on the next turn by moving up+left with his max move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorena Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Or alternatively T1 Matthew open left door Astor open right door Hector recruit Barth Oswin moves so that he can spear the right hero Barst trades Oswin and KOs T2 Hector moves west Matthew gets chest Astor moves into range of warrior Barst opens door. Oswin talks to barst And leave it at that. If anyone has a method for chapter two in the first few turns, I'd love to hear it. I cannot for the love of myself figure out how to tackle this chapter and get a 6 turn. I was told one of idea of a sword killer method, but the turn arrangement in the early part to get that set-up later to KO the boss is eluding me. Edited August 20, 2012 by Eryth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Lionheart Gasquet Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Interesting. I found that rescuing the NPCs was more efficient than rescuing Hector. That way he can recruit on the way, if you plan right. Also, I always got the Steel Axe on the first turn, and had the Hero die during enemy phase. The second chapter is messing me up too. I'm rushing, and the swordmasters just own me. Sigh... Edited August 20, 2012 by Oleksandr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroMystic Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) Tried out the first chapter about an hour ago (haha... an hour). The difficulty is pretty intense, but doable. I more or less got the first two turns down, but after that I'm still experimenting. I'm thoroughly impressed with how well this was thought out so far. Edited August 20, 2012 by HeroMystic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) If anyone has a method for chapter two in the first few turns, I'd love to hear it. I cannot for the love of myself figure out how to tackle this chapter and get a 6 turn. I was told one of idea of a sword killer method, but the turn arrangement in the early part to get that set-up later to KO the boss is eluding me. i heard that rescue chains and trade chains are some of dondon's favorite things Interesting to see how many ways you guys are doing turn 1 of Chapter 1 with so few options Edited August 20, 2012 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted August 20, 2012 Share Posted August 20, 2012 I think I did chapter 2 in... 8 turns during playtest mode. Trade/rescue chains are go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Draper Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) . Edited July 5, 2020 by Don Draper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) I thought I had a 8-turn planned out for chapter 1. But I run into some problems at the last turn. Serra and Either Dorcas or Oswin cannot tackle the boss together. Barth can attack with the short spear on the same turn but then he cannot drop Lucius. If Lucius isn't dropped then hector cannot recruit him on that same turn while on the boss's old spot. I must be missing something. EDIT: The starting Heroes can have either 11 or 12 Str to spawn with. (resulting in either just not or just 2-hitting matthew.) Maybe the boss also has slightly different spawn attributes on his HP, Def and Res? That would make the chances of 8-turnign a lot harder if he just barely can survive. Edited September 25, 2012 by Silith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) i designed the boss to be more beatable with lucius (he doubles the boss), but some strategies use the trick of recruiting lucius and escaping on the same turn. i'm not sure if an 8 turn is possible like that. by the way, hack is on indefinite hiatus until i get some things finished. Edited September 25, 2012 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Interresting. I never thought of sending Hector to the right side. Though killing the top left assassin is going to be bothersome without Dorcas to shoot him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted September 25, 2012 Author Share Posted September 25, 2012 oh i never send hector up the right; i'm pretty sure that's a losing strategy it wouldn't be so bad if it were easier to get hector to recruit dorcas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 iirc my strategy sent Hector up the right and wins in 8 turns, but I miss out on an item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silith Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) If only this would work. EDIT: With 4 people to recruit and needing the 8th turn to step on the boss's spot that leaves only 3 turns to walk around (or get carried around) for Hector. With the need to recruit Barth at turn 1 and then having to take the left side turns 2 and 3 are "walking turns" Then You'll have to decide between goign into Dorcas's pit and recruiting him there forcing you to take a "walking 5th turn" or to let Oswin pick up Dorcas on the 4th turn and drop him next to Hector on the 5th in which case the 4th turn is a "walking turn". After that I don't see any way to bring Serra over quickly enough because it seems impossible for anyone to reach her by turn 5 to pick her up. Because turns 6 and 7 need to be recruiting turns for Serra and Lucius or else Hector won't be able to arrive on turn 8. Dilema's. I'm probably missing something. EDIT AGAIN: I found a way to recruit Lucius at turn 6 but sadly Matthew who has picked up Serra at turn 5 is now stuck in the chamber behind the enemy assassin and I kinda need him to give Serra to Oswin RIGHT NOW! EDIT the 3th!: I found an 8-turn but it requires the bottom left hero to hit Matthew twice so he's low enough HP that the assassin will attack him on turn 4. He then has to only dodge a 97% hit to counterattack and one-round the assassin. Yup. I'm still missing something but I'm getting closer. EDIT #4!: I did it! I even get to put the physic staff on Lucius and the Silver lance on Oswin. Project Dondon chapter 1 cleared at turn 8! EDIT #5 (to avoid double posting): Wasn't really satisfied with my first successfull attempt so I went back and redid chapter 1. Changes include: - Dorcas wastes less Short bow uses. - At turn 7 Astor has the Iron Sword equipped so he won't waste Slim Sword uses. - Hector and Barth position better at turn 6 so the right General survives. - Slim Sword ends on Barth, Physic on Lucius and the Silver Lance on Oswin. - Astor and Matthew steal both the general's vulneraries. Edited September 27, 2012 by Silith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) so it's been awhile i am on break and have started working on this again. before moving forward, though, i decided to go back and revise the finished maps. i'll cut to the chase: i need playtesters for a revision of chapter 1. please PM me if you're interested. i'd prefer that you were a previous playtester or have played the old chapter 1. quick preview of the differences: it plays very differently from before! amazing what a few changes to the starting positions can do. (although enemy equipment, chest locations, door locations, etc. have been tweaked too. so it really does play quite differently.) Edited December 23, 2012 by HORSEBlRD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorena Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Did you ever get someone to play test this for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 yes, but an ordinary hack can never have enough playtesters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorena Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Alright, its been about a year. Let us see if you are up to letting me see the new chapter you revised this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 It's still 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorena Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 I asked on January 3rd of 2013. I am asking 359 days later. 98.35% of a year later. I said "about". Have a good new years :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelman Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 Isn't this considered, "necroposting?" It's against the code of conduct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Red Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 ^so is mini-modding, last I checked been a while since I heard progress on this indeed, also are there any LPs of this or even just a video playthrough w/o commentary? :O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelman Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 ^so is mini-modding, last I checked been a while since I heard progress on this indeed, also are there any LPs of this or even just a video playthrough w/o commentary? :O Oh dangit. This is interesting. Is he working on it again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 also are there any LPs of this or even just a video playthrough w/o commentary? :O I started one a while ago...I'll get back to it at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorena Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 (edited) Necroposting has indeed happened, but I would like renewed interest in this. I enjoyed "The Don's" take on the fire emblem mechanics by removing stat increases. It really makes a interesting puzzle to try solving with the limited resources and what I thought to be really well laid out positions. It greatly limits the number of viable strategies. Espeically typical fire emblem strategies which greatly simplifies the game, but at the same time I saw plenty of people have different takes on simply chapter 1 for completion. I do wish there was a battle preparation option for chapter two and onwards. Although, I forget if chapter 3 had it or any of the future chapters. Anyway, I finally got some free time and was hoping to see how the new chapter one played out along with get others interested in this again. Edited December 29, 2013 by Eri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT075 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 i think he said somewhere that the project is dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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