General Horace Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) PLAYLIST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HqaLFwUdZI&list=PLHhXqU1iGb01IHXQEsSD2CrHBLiqkQ-R- I've been meaning to finish an FE7 ltc run for years now and as of today (note this could change next week) i'm pretty commited to actually finishing it. I've been telling myself not to make topics until I've got substantial progress done already but WHATEVER MAN. But really i'd like some opinions and the like before I get too far into the game, as I don't know this game as well as i'd like, and want to make sure i'm not making some big mistakes somewhere. I'm on Chapter 13 currently, I think i'll have to 5 turn due to unfortunate Marcus spawn, but we'll see. I'll post my current turncounts now, I have videos that i'll get up uh, when I feel like it! (probably later today or tomorrow). [spoiler=Turncounts] Chapter P - 5 turns Chapter 1 - 3 turns Chapter 2 - 4 turns Chapter 3 - 3 turns Chapter 4 - 8 turns Chapter 5 - 3 turns Chapter 6 - 3 turns Chapter 7 - 1 turn Chapter 7x - 2 turns Chapter 8 - 2 turns Chapter 9 - 3 turns Chapter 10 - 3 turns Chapter 11 - 6 turns Chapter 12 - 4 turns Chapter 13 - 5 turns Chapter 13x - 8 turns Chapter 14 - 4 turns Chapter 15 - 8 Turns Chapter 16 - 3 turns Chapter 17 - 6 turns Chapter 17x - 2 turns Chapter 18 - 3 turns Chapter 19 - 3 turns Chapter 19x - 3 turns Chapter 20 - 4 turns Chapter 21 - 1 turn Chapter 22 - 2 turns Chapter 23 - 2 turns Chapter 23x - 4 turns Chapter 24 - 1 turn Chapter 25 - 2 turns Chapter 26 - 12 turns Chapter 27 - 5 turns Chapter 28 - 16 turns Chapter 28x - 3 turns Chapter 29 - 4 turns Chapter 30 - 3 turns Chapter 31 - 12 turns Chapter 31x - 6 turns Chapter 32 - 3 turns Chapter 32x - 1 turn Final - 3 turns Total - 179 turns Lyn mode improved upon Espinosa's 43 turn clear here: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39214 by three turns (one in chapter 1, one in 7x, one in 8) without any unreliable stuff, and uses Kent as the main Paladin instead of Sain, due to a few things: - I'd have made sure Sain had requisite speed anyway, but Kent reaches the bosskilling benchmarks easier in Lyn mode - Kent can solo the top part of chapter 3 (Sain won't have the speed) for more exp, allowing Florina to get more exp overall later on (mostly in chapter 8) - Sain can catch up easier in Hector mode to become a real unit there. Kent struggles due to his mediocre strength. Other units I plan on using: - Marcus, obviously - Eliwood, there are lots of defence chapters to get him exp, he can rescue Hector while both are promoted, and is forced in some chapters (and the more units that can actually do stuff the better!) I don't expect him to do a whole lot, but having an extra dude around for endgame is pretty nice I guess. Probably not needed, opinions? - Lowen, depending on how he turns out. I'll probably massage his early levels so he does turn out well. His bases are really good too. - Priscilla, mounted warper. I think i'll be able to get her enough exp to promote at least for chapter 28 or something. - Kent, promoted in Lyn mode - Florina. I think I'll need her to be able to 1 turn chapter 24, depending on how the AI works. - Sain, mounted dude - Canas, as a lategame warper. He has a high base level and can get exp really easily, and will be fantastic in the desert. Luna helps rout the endgame morphs too. - Fiora, obligatory flier. I dunno how much exp she'll be able to get though. - Heath. He'll have to be pretty clutch lategame since Florina's durability won't be able to handle rescuing Hector all the time. He's pretty good regardless. - Rath, another guy who can rescue hector and the early brave bow is pretty cool too. He helps smash walls in Genesis, and hopefully he'll do more lategame too. - Pent, lategame warping etc There will be other liberal uses of prepremotes like Isadora and Hawkeye, I'm not recruiting everyone either, so i'll probably miss out on Lucius, Legault, Wallace, Farina, Harken, Karla and maybe Renault. I'd only really miss Harken and Farina, but they probably aren't worth the turns anyway. If you have any comments or questions throw them my way and I'll probably try to answer them. Maybe. Regardless with this starting position in chapter 13: I don't see a way to 4 turn. If anyone else does, or wants the save, give me a yell. Other than with a Marcus Silver Lance crit. But that's lame. If someone can figure a way to recruit Guy and get Marcus the killing edge, i'd rig two KE crits though probably. Oh another thing, i'm not using the mine/torch glitch at any point. Edited January 16, 2015 by Integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 is kentadin going to be a thing? totally agree with canas on being your magic user of choice. (btw i need help with cog on 0%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 im gonna need help on cog with growths man I did only get Kent to 12/1 is another thing I failed to mention, as opposed to the usual 13/1, due to Florina getting the 7x bosskill. I forget what level she left lyn mode at, but hopefully it was higher than normal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I 3 turned Lyn Mode the other day. Wow you suck lmao scrub get better. Anyway, will there be videos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBM Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I feel like I heard someone a long time ago talk about a 4-turn of C13 that involved Dorcas and/or Bartre and/or someone else entirely dropping Hector over the river? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 That is a very unfortunate Marcus spawn :/. I wonder if it's really random though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 I feel like I heard someone a long time ago talk about a 4-turn of C13 that involved Dorcas and/or Bartre and/or someone else entirely dropping Hector over the river? the fighters can't go in the river, and the river is always 2 tiles wide, so it's impossible to 4-turn just dropping hector across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) That is a very unfortunate Marcus spawn :/. I wonder if it's really random though? I still don't understand what the difference is. The only difference in Espinosa's and my spawns were the positioning of Matthew and Dorcas, so I still have no idea. There will be videos, they're all recorded, I'm just currently trying to resolve some computer issues. and yeah hector getting dropped across the river only lets him get to the throne by turn 5. Bartre can't even rescue him anyway! Edited June 18, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) horace, you have a higher chance of killing the chapter 13 boss with a silver lance crit than you do with a double KE crit. marcus has 80 hit (92.2 true), 6 crit with the silver lance and 65 hit (75.9 true), 36 crit with the KE. marcus has to crit once with the silver lance (29 atk vs. 14 +2 def) and double crit with the KE (24 -1 atk vs. 14 +2 def) vs. 31 HP. single silver lance crit: 10.8% chance double KE crit: 7.5% chance and since iron axe has 75 +15 hit due to WTA, the chance of an iron axe hit + crit is about as likely as a single silver lance crit. Edited June 18, 2014 by dondon151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 (edited) I actually never got far enough into the chapter to see the hit. Fsr I thought it would be better. In other news, my laptop picked a fantastic time to shit itself, had to bring it in to get fixed today, hopefully I don't lose anything. Edited June 18, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 you could just calculate it... in any case, i chose to eschew the 4-turn in my 0% growths run for the same reason that i didn't 4-turn chapter 1 in FE6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 19, 2014 Author Share Posted June 19, 2014 Yeah. I honestly didn't look at the chapter a whole lot and I'm lazy. I'm not gonna do the 4 turn anyway I think, I can get Eliwood and Lowen a lot more exp with 5 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I hate Eliwood a lot. Normally I'd say any experience given to him would be better off going to anybody else; of course, if he gets out of his earlygame rut then he can prove a decent axe wrecker. Plus dat rapier and forced deployment. I still hate him though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 I just don't know who else to funnel the exp into during the defend chapters. There's no more mounts other than like, Isadora (who eliwood is better than anyway). Maybe Raven or Dart to have a high str/spd bosskiller? Unfourtunately I might need a new hard drive for my computer so things are on hold for now, i'll find out more on Monday. The chapters i've done aren't hard to rerecord regardless, so hopefully i'll have actual updates come midweek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Much sadness wow. I was looking forward to Kentadin Lyn Mode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Horace uploaded kentadin lyn mode to his yt channel back in january. Could be outdated though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 I redid that, since I figured out a way to save one turn. But yeah, it's pretty much the same, except I two turned 7x instead of three turned it this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 confirmed that my hard drive crapped itself, and i'm pretty busy this week, hopefully I'll get to catch up on the weekend or something. Once I have the time to play, it shouldn't take too long at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chococoke Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 The curse of non-promoted Wallace destroys all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excellen Browning Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 This thing is down the drain before it even starts. Is this a new record? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 This thing is down the drain before it even starts. Is this a new record? Typical Horace ;_; Such sadness. Best thing is how the OP said this is the first time he's motivated to finish. Not sure if sirius or trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon151 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Such sadness. Best thing is how the OP said this is the first time he's motivated to finish. Not sure if sirius or trolling. he could just be ryan get it it's like lying but with g-dropping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) did nobody notice the part where i lost my hard drive nobody? I've (re) recorded up to chapter 6 so far. there i uploaded the prologue: everyone should be happy now but really I should have all of lyn mode up by tonight unless something catastrophic happens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HqaLFwUdZI&feature=youtu.be Edited July 7, 2014 by General Horace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I conveniently forgot the hard drive. Can't speak for Gyarados. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Horace Posted July 7, 2014 Author Share Posted July 7, 2014 i forgot if i said it or not but im gonna add annotations to the videos that will more often than not just be my pointless thoughts and sometimes insightful information (lol who am I kidding) about units/chapters/why im doing seemingly odd things instead of putting a huge blarb down in the video description. Whatever I did this time around ended up in Kent getting a bit more defence somehow, so that's a plus at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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