Stravask Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Okay, for a long time everyone was all "ermagerd Donnel x Nowi blah blah" But lets be frank, Aptitude is a totally pointless skill when you have infinite levels.Assuming all options are open (as this is for my next playthrough) what do you guys advise to do with Donnel as far as pairing? I believe he can pass Galeforce (not a HUGE deal for me as I mostly worry about building annoying spotpass teams, damn IS for not including a direct multiplayer), but as far as what you guys have decided you like best, how do you all suggest I pair up the annoying, redneck, pan-wearing dweeb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anacybele Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Donnel and Lissa are such a cute pairing! They have such an awesome support! I recommend them. ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Okay, for a long time everyone was all "ermagerd Donnel x Nowi blah blah" But lets be frank, Aptitude is a totally pointless skill when you have infinite levels. Assuming all options are open (as this is for my next playthrough) what do you guys advise to do with Donnel as far as pairing? I believe he can pass Galeforce (not a HUGE deal for me as I mostly worry about building annoying spotpass teams, damn IS for not including a direct multiplayer), but as far as what you guys have decided you like best, how do you all suggest I pair up the annoying, redneck, pan-wearing dweeb? I'd pair him with tharja, sully, or nowi so that their kids can get Galeforce and armsthrift. Pass down aptitude. It makes kids amazing and you don't have to grind as much. There are tons of other skills to use so losing it when they all hit their caps doesn't matter. Donnel!Noire: bow faire, Galeforce, armsthrift, vengeance, and LB. perfect setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ULTRA PRODIGY NUXL Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Donnel or Gaius!Noire is good, Kjelle and Nah don't need Galeforce, but you could pass him to Kjelle for tanking with Sol and Armsthrift if you decide to use legendary weapons and forges. You don't have to pass down Aptitude, pass down something like counter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSND Alter Dragon Boner Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Tharja, Sully, Nowi is basically his entire role in breeding Also he make a good father for Owain, Brady, and Laurent if you want to do that stuff Edited June 5, 2013 by JSND Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki Laufeyson Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Donnel and Lissa are such a cute pairing! They have such an awesome support! I recommend them. ^^ That and Owain of Awesome. I think im more attached to Aptitude than Galeforce. lol But having both? Hnngh Edited June 5, 2013 by Florina Stark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Donnel isn't even used for Aptitude so much as for Pegasus Knight+Mercenary, which he can also pass to Noire and Kjelle I agree though, he's annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samias Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Aptitude basically makes the grinding happen faster. For in-game purposes any character with it eventually rockets past their peers with less exp needed. The fact that he can pass both mercenary and pegasus knight (zzz troubadour) to girls makes him a pretty cool dad, but honestly anyone who doesn't already get mercenary probably likes him as a father. My first pairing was actually Maribelle x Donnel. I have no regrets. But Tharja and Sully were both good too. I was least impressed with pairing him with Nowi, because Nah is one of the few kids who is more about stats than skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Aptitude basically makes the grinding happen faster. For in-game purposes any character with it eventually rockets past their peers with less exp needed. The fact that he can pass both mercenary and pegasus knight (zzz troubadour) to girls makes him a pretty cool dad, but honestly anyone who doesn't already get mercenary probably likes him as a father. My first pairing was actually Maribelle x Donnel. I have no regrets. But Tharja and Sully were both good too. I was least impressed with pairing him with Nowi, because Nah is one of the few kids who is more about stats than skills. Paragon, sir, Paragon. Aptitude is much worse. Let's look at this, we've got A growth of 50%, and 1000 EXP. Paragon: 1000 EXP (X2): 2000 EXP, or 20 levels, or 10 points in the stat. Aptitude: 1000 EXP (x1), but the growth is increased to 70%. or 7 points in the stat. Veteran's even better than Aptitude:1500 (15 Levels) on that same 1000 EXP. 7.5 points (Average) Ok, Para-tude vs. Par-Vet: Para Aptiute: x2, 70%, 14 points on that same 1000 EXP. Para Vet: x3: 15 points on that same 1000 EXP. Paragon pretty much trumps any thought that aptitude is a good skill. If you're gonna use a skill slot on making the XP more effieicent, Veteran and Paragon are the way to go, not Aptitude. Paragon is also available on everyone, and Spotpass Arvis can solo clear the map. He's easily accessible as soon as you clear Ch 6 (Sell your bullions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sublime Manic Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 If it's a file for postgame, making a Streetpass team, DLC shenanigans and the like, I pair him with either Tharja or Sully with Gaius getting the other (and Nowi getting with Kellam). And he'll be passing Counter, not Aptitude. Because grinding. Might as well pass a male-only skill that at least has some use in Streetpass.It's a file for just completing the main story, probably in a practical manner, he's not being used anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'm the weirdo that passes Underdog to Donnel's daughter. With infinite Second Seals, it means that you'll get the bonus more often than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shengar Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Aptitude is useful only if you like GRINDING, and grinding, and a lot of grinding to reach a maximum stat of your children unit with minimum time possible, So yeah, aptitude is time saver for time consuming task, although not that much since we have Paragon that is much more useful.But again, what Am I to do with Donnel? V V I'd pair him with tharja, sully, or nowi so that their kids can get Galeforce and armsthrift.Pass down aptitude. It makes kids amazing and you don't have to grind as much. There are tons of other skills to use so losing it when they all hit their caps doesn't matter.Donnel!Noire: bow faire, Galeforce, armsthrift, vengeance, and LB. perfect setup. Yes, passing down Counter to Noire is much better idea overall than aptitude. With Counter and Vengeance, Noire possibly the only useful archer outside Lunatic difficulty though later I'll reclass her again to Bow Knight for speed and sword. Down to below 50% HP and she can pretty much wrecks anything with bow since her skill is high enough to make it have 80% chance to occured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorMajora Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Paragon, sir, Paragon. Aptitude is much worse. Let's look at this, we've got A growth of 50%, and 1000 EXP. Paragon: 1000 EXP (X2): 2000 EXP, or 20 levels, or 10 points in the stat. Aptitude: 1000 EXP (x1), but the growth is increased to 70%. or 7 points in the stat. Veteran's even better than Aptitude:1500 (15 Levels) on that same 1000 EXP. 7.5 points (Average) Ok, Para-tude vs. Par-Vet: Para Aptiute: x2, 70%, 14 points on that same 1000 EXP. Para Vet: x3: 15 points on that same 1000 EXP. Paragon pretty much trumps any thought that aptitude is a good skill. If you're gonna use a skill slot on making the XP more effieicent, Veteran and Paragon are the way to go, not Aptitude. Paragon is also available on everyone, and Spotpass Arvis can solo clear the map. He's easily accessible as soon as you clear Ch 6 (Sell your bullions). The problem with veteran and paragon is that they are affected by slowly gaining levels decreasing exp. gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Aptitude is useful only if you like GRINDING, and grinding, and a lot of grinding to reach a maximum stat of your children unit with minimum time possible, So yeah, aptitude is time saver for time consuming task, although not that much since we have Paragon that is much more useful. But again, what Am I to do with Donnel? V V Yes, passing down Counter to Noire is much better idea overall than aptitude. With Counter and Vengeance, Noire possibly the only useful archer outside Lunatic difficulty though later I'll reclass her again to Bow Knight for speed and sword. Down to below 50% HP and she can pretty much wrecks anything with bow since her skill is high enough to make it have 80% chance to occured. But counter is shit unless its street pass... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Mir Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Yes, passing down Counter to Noire is much better idea overall than aptitude. With Counter and Vengeance, Noire possibly the only useful archer outside Lunatic difficulty though later I'll reclass her again to Bow Knight for speed and sword. Down to below 50% HP and she can pretty much wrecks anything with bow since her skill is high enough to make it have 80% chance to occured. I don't see why I'd want to pass Counter down to a daughter other than Streetpass, since there are more useful skills than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiki Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Let him die a virgin to humans (he lost his virginity to farm animals though). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Let him die a virgin to humans (he lost his virginity to farm animals though). Donnel X Palne, you heard it first ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnel Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Aptitude is useful only if you like GRINDING, and grinding, and a lot of grinding to reach a maximum stat of your children unit with minimum time possible, So yeah, aptitude is time saver for time consuming task, although not that much since we have Paragon that is much more useful. But again, what Am I to do with Donnel? V V Yes, passing down Counter to Noire is much better idea overall than aptitude. With Counter and Vengeance, Noire possibly the only useful archer outside Lunatic difficulty though later I'll reclass her again to Bow Knight for speed and sword. Down to below 50% HP and she can pretty much wrecks anything with bow since her skill is high enough to make it have 80% chance to occured. You mean to those that DON'T like grinding? If you like grinding, you won't feel the need of aptitude. Those LTC or non-grind will feel for aptitude because they don't/can't grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Also aptitude helps a lot for the growth under 50% 30% to 50% is a huge boost, and 10% to 30% is even higher... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Lightning Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Let him die a virgin. Exactly what I did. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Donnel X Palne, you heard it first ! That's what I did in my first PT. Since at endgame Yarne was a Taguel again, he was able to make good use of the skill Underdog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanoir Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 That's what I did in my first PT. Since at endgame Yarne was a Taguel again, he was able to make good use of the skill Underdog. That's actually what I'm doing in my actual playthrough... Even if now he's my Armsthrift + Despoil Warrior (Strangely enough, Kellam!Donnel had the same role in my first playthrough. withoutb Armsthrift, so less good..) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Panne, who always falls for Donnel's traps, in more than one way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 The problem with veteran and paragon is that they are affected by slowly gaining levels decreasing exp. gain. So is Aptitude. Para and Vet make better use of the actual EXP though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fush Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Infinite levels take a LONG time to go through. Aptitude can really help people with lower starting stats in that regard. Anyway Donnel!Nah is silly anyway because why would you give aptitude to someone who already has insane growth rates sheesh He's best being trained for a little after second sealing, which makes him overpowered enough, then pair him with anyone who isn't Panne, Miriel or Nowi, because one child uses magic and donnel does not, and the rest have high growth rates anyway. The result will be a child with monstrous stats. Also, Aptitude is the best skill for him to pass down because villager has low caps and is male exclusive, so you'd want it either way. Any other skill you wanna pass down can be achieved by the child herself or is male exclusive and generally meh. Edited June 5, 2013 by The Fush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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