riariadne Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) No arguing your own guys up/down. All around usefulness> Utility> Combat effectiveness Ranking is based on how much they benefit the party. Sage has combat tier list on P12. But lol. Skittles tier: Tessa Arrin Top tier: Irina Aiya Damian Charlotte High tier: Morgan Isotov Chase Alex Kelas Upper-mid tier: Beau Luc Helios Derek Lower mid tier: Reika Alferos Conrad Low tier: Heinz Tas Tristan Fail tier: Mark Kamilla Zilpah Traitorous Bastard Tier: Eric Fail of the Year Tier: Pary --- MIA Dani unranked d00ds/chicks N/A Esphyr Edited January 1, 2011 by Haruhi Suzumiya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Cess goes to bottom of mid Tier since we havent seen him in combat yet Arrin's two speed isnt helping him so down above Kamilla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 Arrin's godly offense is helping him though. He also can take more hits than most Mages on the team (IIRC he has existant defense). Cess moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psych Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Hey, I've got more defense than Morgan even with her supports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Arrin has 6 hp If we go up against faster enemies he is going to get doubled and a very good chance defeated EDIT: You havent been in battle yet Dunno who put Chase in mid Tier He should go to Low tier for his 1 DEF Edited June 8, 2010 by Kai-Sama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) I think Chase was there because of Crimson weapon, doubles slow enemies, doesn't get countered half the time. Arrin has 6HP? Not 9? Ok, yeah, he needs to drop... @Cess's defense: Morgan has Miracle, which ensures that she can survive 1 hit no matter what. Edited June 8, 2010 by Lightning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) You are forgetting that we have enemy phase now His one defense doesnt help him there I could understand if he was a Mage but archers tend to have at least 2 or 3 defense Edited June 8, 2010 by Kai-Sama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 If he was a mage his low defense wouldn't be justified. You can't say "oh, it's fine for mages to have lame defense, but we cant letter archers get away with that!" He has one of the best offenses in the group, and he has a good enough defense due to high avo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 (edited) Chase hasnt been in many battles has he? His evade is? Edited June 8, 2010 by Kai-Sama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 7 evade. He also has Adept, which boosts his offense even further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Your link is broken Just host it and put it in a spoiler tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 It works perfectly fine for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 8, 2010 Share Posted June 8, 2010 Eric should go above Irina He has wrath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 8, 2010 Author Share Posted June 8, 2010 He also has 6 HP and can get OHKO'd pretty easily. Irina on the other hand has rather good durability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 He also has 6 HP and can get OHKO'd pretty easily. Irina on the other hand has rather good durability. I'd like to mention that's happened once, so far, as a means of introduction. But, yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 It's still possible (average enemy has 3 str, if they hit and roll a 3 or above that's a OHKO). Also a boss typically has 4 str so any hit except a 1 will OHKO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 (Something to point out that you guys don't know) Irina has a useful combat trick that I've been neglecting to use. Since she has the skill Hawkeye, she can increase her hit rate a bit. The thing about it is, Hawkeye doesn't let you add Luck to your evasion when you use it. This doesn't effect Irina's evasion because she has 3 SPD points which adds up to = 4.5 evasion. That rounds up to 5 evasion in actual combat, so taking away the one point of luck she has doesn't decrease her evasion, but she gets a one point boost for the HIT. It's a small perk but it's note worthy since the skill hawkeye has absolutely no drawbacks for her. I am probably going to start using it actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snike Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 It's still possible (average enemy has 3 str, if they hit and roll a 3 or above that's a OHKO). Also a boss typically has 4 str so any hit except a 1 will OHKO. He doesn't have 0 DEF. >.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 Oh yeah... whoops. Eric can move up a bit then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Not they cant, no arguing your character Eric has the least mobility out of the whole group however he has wrath He can go up Even though Irina has hawkeye she cant double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 He didn't argue his own character, he pointed out something I forgot about that was important enough for a move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Cess shouldn't really be on the list seeing as he hasn't fought any enemies yet. Not seeing how Kelas is so low. She has better defenses than Eric and can avoid counters sometimes, with only slightly worse offense. Sometimes she rescues people with her horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 Dont know how Chase is higher then Kelas :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Cynthia- Posted June 9, 2010 Share Posted June 9, 2010 He hits harder than she does, but given her defensive boosts+ horse not seeing a tier gap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riariadne Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share Posted June 9, 2010 (edited) Crimson weapon, great offense due to adept, good evade. Kelas moved up btw. Just under Chase. What's her defenses btw? Edited June 9, 2010 by Lightning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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