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[Agro]

It can help you determine if the person is trying to help you or is just being a thorn in your side.

No.

I'm afraid of little children simply going "oh my friend lyle helped me REPUTATION POINT lalala~" which is really what's going to happen in the end. The only way I can really see this working is if a moderator applies said point, but I wonder if that's too much work for them. You could always hire extra staff solely for the purpose of applying such points.

Edited by Angelix, 08 July 2009 - 06:46 PM.

[Mufasa]

I'm just such a bridge builder, what can I say.

You're like oprah. Cept you don't have millions of dollars and 12 hundred nuclear missle silos at your beck and call.

If people are good enough posters to be recognizable contributors, what's wrong with everybody just knowing they're good posters, and not having any built-in way to quantify it? This method of "rewarding," "recognizing" them is worse than post counts elitism for reasons already stated like popularity contest shit.

We don't need a format to recognize posters outside of mods. It's best that we have none. We can still respect people personally and know they're smart regardless of what some nothing stats tell us.

This is a good point too. The system will only further elitism, while without it, the members themselves will decide who are the cool members (Fireman) and who are the idiot spamming fucktards (ME!!!!)

Not to repeat what he just said, but I wanted to post this and I felt like if I didn't it would have been too small a post.

No.

I'm afraid of little children simply going "oh my friend lyle helped me REPUTATION POINT lalala~" which is really what's going to happen in the end. The only way I can really see this working is if a moderator applies said point, but I wonder if that's too much work for them. You could always hire extra staff solely for the purpose of applying such points.

I dunno. Considering how many people here loathe the air I breathe, I think you can let one rep point for me slide.

But since that's not really you're point I'll keep quiet about it.

It's just an abuse thing. People will find ways to abuse any system you come up with.

Edited by Tino, 08 July 2009 - 06:53 PM.
Double post

[Tino]

You're like oprah. Cept you don't have millions of dollars and 12 hundred nuclear missle silos at your beck and call.

Hmm? Who says he doesn't?

Anyway, the edit button exists for a reason.

Edited by Tino, 08 July 2009 - 06:53 PM.

[Knife]

Why did we remove the rating system (you know, the one Vincent removed cause people were giving 1 star ratings to new users people) if we were going to introduce a system like this? As for the post count thing, why not make it hidden by default, but have an option where you can see everyone's postcount?

[Le Communard]

Hmm? Who says he doesn't?

Oh, but of course I... excuse me, I mean, the state does. A strong Nuclear Arsenal is an absolute necessity for the survival of the e-Revolution, and the protection of the free Proletarian--this is why the FESSR has long been at the forefront of Atomic research. They say there is no finer institute in the world for the study of the atom than the Physics Institute and the University of Thunkingrad! Long has our success delving in the nature of of the particle been the envy of Bourgeoisie Science, who can never hope to keep up with our collective ingenuity.

Edited by Le Communard, 08 July 2009 - 07:07 PM.

[Fireman]

Why did we remove the rating system (you know, the one Vincent removed cause people were giving 1 star ratings to new users people) if we were going to introduce a system like this? As for the post count thing, why not make it hidden by default, but have an option where you can see everyone's postcount?

The old rating system were just ratings based upon how much you were liked by the community. Strictly a popularity contest.

The new rep system being suggested is supposed to be an indicator of how many quality posts you make, or don't make for that matter. Although I'm not saying the rep system won't become a popularity contest either.

[Agro]

Why did we remove the rating system (you know, the one Vincent removed cause people were giving 1 star ratings to new users people) if we were going to introduce a system like this? As for the post count thing, why not make it hidden by default, but have an option where you can see everyone's postcount?

Because once someone was butthurt they'd give respective butthurter a shitty rating. Similarly, once someone thought "this member is a really cool dude!!111" they'd give them a 5-star rating. I mean, seriously, do you want people like Lyle running around with a 5-star rating?

[Knife]

The old rating system were just ratings based upon how much you were liked by the community. Strictly a popularity contest.

The new rep system being suggested is supposed to be an indicator of how many quality posts you make, or don't make for that matter. Although I'm not saying the rep system won't become a popularity contest either.

So the intent will be different, but result could be the same. Then how about we just do a trial period? You know, a week of the rep system being up and if it is successful, we could keep it. Right now, we have no idea how the community will handle this feature.

[Dies Mori]

Two issues I find with this:

-You do realise quality points, or any sort of numerical gauging systrem applied to a member-per member solitary basis is more or less going to amount to the same conclusive elitism, yes? Post counts and quality points are inherently interchangeable.
-Removal of postcount inherently demands removal of groups, being that, as far to my knowledge, the majority of non-moderator based castes here are due to various levels of postcount. I suppose one could alter it to time spent active, but again, that is altogether accomplishing no such remedy.

[Masu]

Why did we remove the rating system (you know, the one Vincent removed cause people were giving 1 star ratings to new users people) if we were going to introduce a system like this? As for the post count thing, why not make it hidden by default, but have an option where you can see everyone's postcount?

Remember? People would go so far as to make topics titled "WHY DONT I HAVE AS MANY STARS AS THIS GUY!? IM COOLER THAN HIM!"

[General Spoon]

Remember? People would go so far as to make topics titled "WHY DONT I HAVE AS MANY STARS AS THIS GUY!? IM COOLER THAN HIM!"

I haven't seen any of those, ever. When did this happen you old fart?

Anyways, I don't think anyone would have a problem with usergroups going away. There are no special features for usergroups anymore, so why have non-staff usergroups anymore?

Edited by Miror B., 08 July 2009 - 08:23 PM.

[Pride]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[Masu]

I haven't seen any of those, ever. When did this happen you old fart?

Anyways, I don't think anyone would have a problem with usergroups going away. There are no special features for usergroups anymore, so why have non-staff usergroups anymore?

May of Last year. I dont think you were here, the topics were either insta deleted, or theres probably still some closed ones somewhere (lol woudlnt surprise me if there was one by me somewhere )

[Tino]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

"If it ain't good enough, improve it."

[General Spoon]

"If it ain't good enough, improve it."

"If it's too good, nerf the hell out of it."

[Der Kommissar]

My two cents? Getting rid of post count is VERY YES. Post counts, almost without fail, lead to dick-measuring and elitism. I definitely wouldn't implement a reputation system - it just reintroduces the elitism and dick-comparing problems of post counts, and then adds on. You're going to have a multitude of people posting to get approval of the other forumgoers, and that'll give interesting discussion a kick in the balls.

[Knife]

My two cents? Getting rid of post count is VERY YES. Post counts, almost without fail, lead to dick-measuring and elitism. I definitely wouldn't implement a reputation system - it just reintroduces the elitism and dick-comparing problems of post counts, and then adds on. You're going to have a multitude of people posting to get approval of the other forumgoers, and that'll give interesting discussion a kick in the balls.

Objection!

[Agro]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

That's a pathetic mindset.

[Hyde]

I still lean toward getting rid of postcount. I don't think it's as big of an issue as some folks make it seem, but I don't think that it can be denied that post count has caused some issues on this forum. I think it was Mac who said that getting rid of the post count system would be like getting rid of a cold sore.

That said, I doubt I'll lose any sleep at night if post count remains.

Regarding the rep system: this honestly seems much worse than post count, but I admit that I'm not completely familiar with rep systems.

[Eltoshen]

I find the whole topic about removing post count to be the mosh childish thing I've heard in a long time. There are plenty of other things that are deserve more attention than the post count system. Nobody here even gives two shits for their post count anymore, so either do away with them or don't. I seriously do not understand why this topic dragged on for 4 pages. thumbs up if you're still reading

*insert obligatory speech here*

AKA, THE BEST SOLUTION WOULD BE TO MAKE A POLL AND SEE WHAT THE MAJORITY VOTE IS

And quality points? No thank you. I don't need somebody's reputation to get in the way of calling somebody out when I see an elitist post (dejavu?). Can't say the same for others, though. Basically, it's a horrible idea, one that's even worse than the post count system.

And in case anybody was wondering, I've seen it implemented on other forums. Don't expect me to believe it'll be any different here.

Edited by Eltoshen, 08 July 2009 - 11:53 PM.