[Camtech075]

So, there are 3705275982734 threads about making the children best by using a different father, but what if we apply the logic the other way? Meaning, which mother would make the best children, considering we have to use said male as the father?

IMO:

Sigurd - lol

Noish - Ayra: lol9001skills

Alec - Sylvia: Alec is not a very stellar father, and Sylvia's kids aren't going to be that great anyway, but Alec gives Pursuit, so that's got to count for something.

Ardan - Uh... Maybe Ayra, since Lakche and Skasaha are hard to screw up.

Lex - Ayra: The kids become tanks with good dodge, and Elite makes them grow fast. Although, inheritance for Skasaha is...

Azel - Tiltyu: Good magic, pursuit, and Tinny is not as bad.

Cuan - lol

Fin - Hmm... I say Lachesis, because he then gives Prayer and Pursuit to his kids. Also, Spd convo with Nanna. YES PLEASE. But Delmud's inheritance and Fin's own inventory is...

Midir - Aideen, no doubt about it. Lester gets a Hero Bow out of it, and Rana gets everything she wants from her mother.

Dew - Er... I guess Brigid, so Patty isn't as much of a frail loser (still frail, just less so.)

Jamuka - Aideen or Brigid. Aideen nets Lester a Hero Bow (again) and maybe his Killer Bow as well. Brigid makes Faval better, although his skill growth and Patty's inheritance...

Holyn - Ayra. lolBalmunk

Beowulf - Lachesis, since you can pass the Silver Blade to Delmud for instant ORKO'ing.

Levin - Tiltyu or Fury. Tiltyu makes early Holsety, Fury makes WTFHAX Holsety. Either way, lolHolsety.

Claude - I like Fury, but I'd have to say Sylvia. Easy way for Corpl to have some use.

Tell me if I missed any.

This post has been edited by CamCam: 31 January 2010 - 01:14 AM

[Medeus]

CamCam, on 30 January 2010 - 07:23 PM, said:

Tell me if I missed any.

Claude.

[Camtech075]

Gouki, on 30 January 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:

Claude.

Fixed.

[Medeus]

CamCam, on 30 January 2010 - 08:13 PM, said:

Fixed.

Beowulf too.

[Camtech075]

Gouki, on 30 January 2010 - 05:13 PM, said:

Beowulf too.

DAMMIT.

What about for you?

[Panspermia]

I'll do a few.

Jamka x nobody. Aira isn't bad, but continue is redundant. Skasaha usually gets the hero sword and Lakche gets continue upon promotion. They'll get better str and spd growths but it's not like they need to cap them.


Levin x Tiltyu. It more than makes up for Arthur's shitty caps. He also gets a horsey which means he will shit on everything. He is practically guaranteed the pursuit ring in the final chapter since it's basically "legendary weapon users kill everything and all the other losers hang around the home castle."

[Héroe]

I used italics in place of the quote tag after the first time to save space.

CamCam, on 30 January 2010 - 04:23 PM, said:

Alec - Sylvia: Alec is not a very stellar father, and Sylvia's kids aren't going to be that great anyway, but Alec gives Pursuit, so that's got to count for something.

AlecxBrigid. Brigid has better options than Alec, but Faval will appreciate Alec's growths at least a little bit and he gives pursuit and a swords inheritance to Patty. The awareness skill would be wasted, but that's the same in almost every pairing.

Ardan - Uh... Maybe Ayra, since Lakche and Skasaha are hard to screw up.

Yes. In terms of stats his strong points are the same as Lex's, just not quite as strong. Also he doesn't offer any interesting skills, but the idea is the same: tanks with good dodge. Also Sukasha can inherit swords.

Fin - Hmm... I say Lachesis, because he then gives Prayer and Pursuit to his kids. Also, Spd convo with Nanna. YES PLEASE. But Delmud's inheritance and Fin's own inventory is...

I think Fin would prefer to remain unpaired, personally. None of his pairings are particularly amazing, and he can see a lot more action in generation I and come with a silver lance in chapter 7. He's the only character that can make this choice, since he's the only one that gets anything out of remaining unpaired.

Dew - Er... I guess Brigid, so Patty isn't as much of a frail loser (still frail, just less so.)

I think Dew would want Aira more. (I just wrote Ira unintentionally, haha)

Holyn - Ayra. lolBalmunk

They get the major blood, but I don't think they can get the weapon.

Levin - Tiltyu or Fury. Tiltyu makes early Holsety, Fury makes WTFHAX Holsety. Either way, lolHolsety.

Levin wants Fury. Fee ends up good, Sety ends up incredible.

Tell me if I missed any.

Claude. But I don't think there should be too much debate around him, to me Sylvia seems like an obvious choice for him.

[Panspermia]

Hero, on 31 January 2010 - 09:33 AM, said:

Holyn - Ayra. lolBalmunk

They get the major blood, but I don't think they can get the weapon.

There's some glitch with an iron lance or something, but i don't know the details. Besides, glitches are cheating.

[Camtech075]

Hero, everything you just said makes sense to me, so I'll just save space and time by not responding. Also, I put in Claude at the bottom.

@Halluci_Nation: Glitches aren't cheating unless you exploit it to make the game easier. Letting Lakche or Skasaha use the Balmung doesn't make the game any easier, since then Shanan doesn't get it. Unless I missed something and using the glitch nets you a second Balmung.

[mousefire]

Impressive idea
Thanks for destroying my "series"
Noish: Briggid for OHKOing many late bosses with critical

Alec: Probably Lachesis, though he still loses to Beowolf.

Ardan: Ayra. Like Lex, but with better strength, similar defense, but no Elite.

Lex: Ayra. Elite+Tanking.

Azel: Tiltyu, for pursuit and Fala

Fin: Aideen. Though he doesn't give any bows to Lester, he gives good stats. Lana gets an epic +5 magic.

Midir: Aideen for hero bow, charge, and pursuit

Dew: Ayra, good all around stats and Solar sword

Jamka: Briggid for great skills

Holyn: Ayra. Amazing hp, skill, and lunar sword is nice.

Levin: Fury for pursuit and the class.

Beowolf: Lachesis for great growths and inheritance.

Claude: Fury. The earlier you get the Valk, the better.

This post has been edited by mousefire: 31 January 2010 - 01:52 AM

[Aquilae]

AlecxSylvia - Leen / Corple's stats don't really matter, and for non Claude / Levin pairings the only thing that matters is staff inheritance for Corple anyway. This does the least damage to your team.

NoishxAyra - Critical and Charge gives Lakche and Skasha crazy offense, and he can pass down swords to Skasha.

ArdanxAyra - Probably the most useful, Ardan can pass down Swords and Ambush, as well as a good STR / DEF growth. Speed problems are sort of alleviated by Ayra's great growth rate.

AzelxTiltyu - Arthur and Tinny end up decent with Pursuit from Azel, and Arthur can inherit a Wind Tome from Azel.

Lex x Everyone - Everyone wants Elite. Period. Ayra wins out by a narrow margin due to being a fast pairing, but Lex's children will turn out great because of Elite.

FinxLachesis - Fin passes down good stats and Prayer to Nanna and Delmud, and has a conversation with Nanna for +5 MAG. Fin can also pass down the Silver Blade by defeating Shagall, which isn't that much of a stretch since Fin is one of the best offensive units at the time.

DewxAyra - Great growths and Sun Sword, probably the only pairing which can really utilise Sun Sword.

HolynxBrigid - Holyn fixes Patty's offense problem by giving Odo Blood allowing her to use the Hero Sword. She also gets Moonlight, so she will get to promotion faster. Faval also appreciates the higher Skill, but Ichival rapes everything either way.

LevinxTiltyu - Mage Knight Arthur is great. Granted, he does have issues before promotion but once he promotes he will be one of the best units in the team. Tinny comes out bad but she does have Wrath and Critical to make up for it.

MidirxAideen - For obvious reasons, Hero Bow is great and Midir passes down Pursuit to Lester allowing him to ORKO a lot of stuff.

JamkaxAideen - Hero Bow for Lester, a fast pairing and good growths. The lack of Pursuit blows though.

BeowulfxLachesis - Sword inheritance for Delmud and Charge for the two kids and good growths to boot.

ClaudexFury - Fee can use Magic Swords and functions fine with the Hero Lance. Sety however gets the Valkyrie Staff, A Staves and great stats all around.

[LittleAl]

Here's mine:

Alec: This guy's a bit of a toughie. I'd personally say Lachesis and Bridget, even though he loses out to Beowulf, who I'd imagine is Finn's competition for Lachesis and Holyn's competition for Bridget.

Noce: Ayra for being hard to screw up. Sword inheritance for Sakasher, overkill offense for both kids.

Ardan: Ayra, even though despite sword inheritance, he does lose out to Lex.

Azel: Tiltyu, Pursuit and high Mag is always a good combo.

Lex: Ayra is in 1st place here. Paragon + Neir blood + Ayra = Tanking sword kids.

Finn: Lachesis, Prayer + Pursuit is always good. Nanna gets +5 Spd. The only problems I see is that it's a bit tough to make, and a lack of sword inheritance.

Dew: Ayra, gives Sol to both kids. Bridget comes in 2nd for giving Faval Bargain.

Jamuka: Ayra, even though Adept is a bit redundant. Edin comes in 2nd for giving Lester the Brave Bow, but a Pursuit Ring has to be handed down to Lester as well.

I'll do more later on.

[LittleAl]

I don't like double posting, but there are some limitations when typing on a game system.

Midir: Edin, both kids get Pursuit, and Lester gets bow inheritance + a Brave Bow.

Holyn: Bridget, Odo Blood lets Patty use Brave Swords, and Luna helps too.

Beowulf: Lachesis, although Bridget is a strong 2nd. Pursuit for both kids, and sword inheritance for Delmud. Bridget gets 2nd for helping Patty out a bit here.

Levin: Fury, with Tiltyu in second. Even though Tiltyu gets you an early Holsety, the Pursuit ring has to be passed down to Arthur, and the pair itself is a bit hard to make. IMO, that's enough to get Fury 1st place among Levin's pairs.

Claude: Sylvia, so Corple doesn't have to stay on the sidelines 90% of the time.

[Mekkah]

The reason most people don't think like this is because the same mother always has the same two kids. Sometimes their classes are just so good that no matter what father you give them, they'll be better than others. For example, no father would like to be with Brigid if they can be with anyone else, because Patty and Faval will always be inferior to pretty much every other decent kid out there (exceptions being Corple and crack pairing results).

So everyone would have Ayra at the top of their list because the only way to give these kids significant improvement is by having them inherit a horse, which is impossible. All Pursuit fathers want to be with someone like Lachesis, since that's the main thing they need to become good.

[Lightning]

I guess I'll try this too, huh? These probablt aren't THE BEST, but I think they're alright, so...

Noish: Err....

Alec: I dunno.

Ardan:

Lex: Ayra, no question really.

Azel:

Fin: I'd say he's best left unpaired since it makes him a lot more useful 2nd gen.

Midir: Aideen is probably his best bet, but I'm not really sure about him...

Dew: Ahh, Dew. I really like Dew as a character, but there's not really anybody that he makes a great pairing for. Probably someone who's kids can use Sol.

Jamka:

Holyn: Personally, I go with Briggid here. Sure, it's probably not the best choice in the world, but it gives Patty sword inheritance and makes the best Faval (hello, Chapter 9)

Levin: This one is tough. If you go with Tiltyu, you get Holsety early on, but with Fury, you get lol Holsety!Sety. I'm going to have to go with Tiltyu, because it makes Chapter 7 Blume and Chapter 8 Ishtar so much more bearable.

Beowolf: I'd say Lachesis. It gives Delmud a good inheritance too and it's pretty quick too. Yeah.

Claude:

I'll finish this later.

This post has been edited by Reinfleche: 19 February 2010 - 01:39 AM

[Narga_Rocks]

Reinfleche, on 02 February 2010 - 08:49 PM, said:

Levin: This one is tough. If you go with Tiltyu, you get Holsety early on, but with Fury, you get lol Holsety!Sety. I'm going to have to go with Tiltyu, because it makes Chapter 7 Blume and Chapter 8 Ishtar so much more bearable.

I was a jerk and silenced Blume. Ishtar I just let Faval attack and got lucky, considering he had just a little above 70% even with I think Celice and Nanna nearby. I'm not sure what I did, whether I got +20, +30, or +40 for him. Anyway, he would have been OHKOd in return, but I figured I'd abuse the rewind function and do something else if he missed. I really should try to play without using rewind or save states in that manner. It's just so tempting when the option is right there.

I suppose you could give Julia the magic ring when she has 15 or more magic and silence Ishtar, too. Good thing she's only at 19 res in chapter 8. A level 10 Julia shouldn't even need the magic ring.

I wonder, though, how she jumps to 70 hp from 50 hp between level 27 and level 30. Especially since level 22 to level 27 only seems to yield 8 hp.

[Proto]

Hmm, what about Alec with Fury? Fee will no longer have a Bow weakness which can be quite helpful for going past ballistae.

Also, I think I'd rather have the Balmung equipped on Lakche rather than Shannan.

[Narga_Rocks]

Proto, on 02 February 2010 - 09:20 PM, said:

Hmm, what about Alec with Fury? Fee will no longer have a Bow weakness which can be quite helpful for going past ballistae.

I like it, but there is a disappointing amount of ballistae anyway. I suppose maybe there are also the snipers in chapter 10 near the dark mages at the start, and since she'll have decent res it could help. Of course, with Alec as a father I doubt she'd get the res to not be put to sleep, so it's a bit of a wash there.

Besides, what about Sety?

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Also, I think I'd rather have the Balmung equipped on Lakche rather than Shannan.

I suppose I'd support Ayra x Holyn if there was a way to get the Balmung to Lakche that didn't rely on a glitch. Her stats are typically better than his anyway.

[Héroe]

Proto, on 02 February 2010 - 06:20 PM, said:

Fee will no longer have a Bow weakness which can be quite helpful for going past ballistae.

Eh, I think that you're giving that weakness too much weight. There's only one time in the second generation that I can think of when Fee will be rendered useless because of ballistae, every other time there's something else for her to be doing as other characters charge the ballistae.

As for archers, they tend to be killed in the first turn of player attack anyway in FE4. They're easy to kill without taking counterattacks, tend to have crappy stats and 2-range requires a more complicated formation to defend against.

Not to mention that Alec will do his best to screw over Sety.

Proto, on 02 February 2010 - 06:20 PM, said:

Also, I think I'd rather have the Balmung equipped on Lakche rather than Shannan.

Why?

This post has been edited by Hero: 03 February 2010 - 03:28 AM

[Dark Sage]

BeowulfxBriggd. Why? Beowulf gives Patty Pursuit and sword inheritance. Give her a magic ring and a wind sword and she''l do a good job. She'll also Charge which is also nice. Then again, once she promotes Pursuit becomes redundant since she gains it anyway, but Beowulf's Charge and stats are still nice. Same with Faval.

It's surprisingly underrated.