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[Swordsalmon]

I don't mind the new badges, but I think it would have been better to have just one for each user group until members are able to choose. It adds some nice uniformity until people are able to personalize it.

And screw FE10 and Roro, a Hicks badge is needed! ^_^

[Radiant Dragon]

The available member badges are oppressively FE9/10 oriented. There is no reason that we cannot have member badges that have a mix of characters from non-FE9/10 games in the series. Because we already have many FE9/10 member badges made, it would be wasteful to not use some of them. Therefore a similar number of member badges should be produced for each game in the series. Failure to do this will show that the staff wishes to push an FE9/10 based agenda to the point of making members who don't like these games feel like they're being excluded.

Unless I'm mistaken, more games aren't represented because of the clash of style used in the official art (compare FE6 to FE10 if you don't know what I'm talking about). Since the site is named Serenes Forest, after a location in FE9/10, it would make sense that the FE9/10 style would be chosen.

Although that doesn't explain the presence of Roro and Firio...

[General Spoon]

Guys, until a solution can be found by the staff to include a dropdown or something to let you select the badge of your choosing, if you want diversity of badges, this is the only way to do it. Otherwise, everybody would have to have the same badge.

Oh I'm not complaining about a us not being able to choose a badge; I know that this option will be a no-brainer once Vincent figures out a way to do this. What I'm worried about is that there won't be an option to opt-out of this, and that FE9/10 will be horribly overrepresented.

Unless I'm mistaken, more games aren't represented because of the clash of style used in the official art (compare FE6 to FE10 if you don't know what I'm talking about). Since the site is named Serenes Forest, after a location in FE9/10, it would make sense that the FE9/10 style would be chosen.

Although that doesn't explain the presence of Roro and Firio...

The name of the site and forcing members to have an FE9/10 badge are two entirely different things. One of them is an address, and the other is something attached to every member whether they like it or not. Or are you telling me that you would hypothetically seriously complain about both the name of your town and that it has a brothel right across from the school?

As for the art styles clashing, who honestly cares?

[Leder]

maaaaan and I had to get Micaiah

BRBRAGEQUITTING

[Radiant Dragon]

Oh I'm not complaining about a us not being able to choose a badge; I know that this option will be a no-brainer once Vincent figures out a way to do this. What I'm worried about is that there won't be an option to opt-out of this, and that FE9/10 will be horribly overrepresented.

I agree that a 'no badge' option would be good to have, for those that don't want one. I don't see the badges as a big deal, though.

The name of the site and forcing members to have an FE9/10 badge are two entirely different things. One of them is an address, and the other is something attached to every member whether they like it or not. Or are you telling me that you would hypothetically seriously complain about both the name of your town and that it has a brothel right across from the school?

I'm not sure how the badges and the hypothetical situation are related.

As for the art styles clashing, who honestly cares?

Someone did, apparently.

[Red Fox of Fire]

The name of the site and forcing members to have an FE9/10 badge are two entirely different things. One of them is an address, and the other is something attached to every member whether they like it or not. Or are you telling me that you would hypothetically seriously complain about both the name of your town and that it has a brothel right across from the school?

An address? Buddy, the entire site is designed to look like a specific area in the game. That goes beyond "an address." You've got the background on the forum with the heron trio and the old member groups were things like "egg" and "hatchling." The theme has always been here and this just adds to that. I don't see the issue unless you're just an old elitist who hates all new things and thinks their cool because they like old stuff. I think being able to turn off the badges like can be done with avatars and signatures would be a fine addition, but I really don't understand why people are so annoyed by this.

And I bet if they'd been here from the start this kind of discussion would never even happen.

[Raven]

If you don't like your badge, post more.
If you don't want to see the badges, get Firefox and AdBlock Plus.
Or just deal with it.

I like them. Nice addition. About time, too.

[Burning Gravity]

Although it feels like an incomplete idea, I think it's really cool.

gj to the graphical artist as well~

[dondon151]

As for the art styles clashing, who honestly cares?

What I'm worried about is... that FE9/10 will be horribly overrepresented.

Who honestly cares? Oh wait, you do.

You say this like it was a bad thing.

And you're implying that this is a good thing. Are you really that unobservant? Most of the complaints about the new member badges aren't about imminent "stratification of the community" (in fact, you're pretty alone in this opinion); users are complaining the most about having a member badge representing a character that they don't like.

[Colonel M]

Wait why does dondon get Greil ffff

These are still awesome, regardless.

[Phoenix Wright]

Awesome! I would like someone else, though. Hopefully we'll be able to change them in the future. Though, in the end, I don't really care. They all look pretty damn good. Good job. :)

[Tangerine]

Yeah, I mean, come on. It's a feature that people have wanted for a long time. It is free, it does not effect anything. Don't complain about something that is completely harmless, and don't get into silly arguments over it. It's not perfect yet, just be happy some actual work is being put into a long-requested feature and that it was not forgotten. Show a little appreciation for the guy doing his best to add some neat things to the forum that we did not previously have.

Thanks for the neat badges guys .

[kirsche]

Whilst Greil is a cooler one, Vika isn't too bad either.

GJ guys, nice to see this implemented. :)

[VincentASM]

Oh I'm not complaining about a us not being able to choose a badge; I know that this option will be a no-brainer once Vincent figures out a way to do this. What I'm worried about is that there won't be an option to opt-out of this, and that FE9/10 will be horribly overrepresented.

When/if we figure out how to enable a choice of badges for Members, I *may* consider looking for a way to make it so that you can choose no badge. Not sure what I'm going to replace a badge with though, just nothing at all?

Although personally, I don't really understand why somebody who have a strong desire to have their badge removed. By the time you get to choose badges, there won't be any more issues of "stratification", so the only legitimate reason I can think of to not have a badge is because you don't like the concept of badges, which... I'm afraid doesn't really count as a legitimate reason to me, especially when it seems most members are happy to have them. I apologise if this seems like I'm trying to force you into conformity, that's what I'm probably doing, but at least it doesn't hurt.

In the meantime, I don't really want us to be going around removing badges by request.

Can't say I like this change. A combination of wholeheartedly disliking FE10 and doubly wholeheartedly disliking Micaiah kinda sours me significantly on this new badge thing. Furthermore, the whole "post pips" thing actually gives some information, while this just looks fancy-ish without actually adding anything of real benefit. As Spoon said, the lack of opt-out is annoying, as well as the focus on FE9/10.

We'll probably stick with Tellius artwork (with the odd exception or two) for reasons already stated by other members (yes, this may include thematic reasons).

I think people have mentioned this already, but the point of removing postcount and, now, the pips is to remove this generally unnecessary information.

I don't mind the new badges, but I think it would have been better to have just one for each user group until members are able to choose. It adds some nice uniformity until people are able to personalize it.

We did this once with Rafiel and lots of people didn't like it, although I'm also thinking it's because nobody really liked Rafiel.

I agree. Stratified member badges encourage petty divisiveness and snap judgement--putting people into boxes instead of using your brain. They're just an arbitrary symbol that create false association among people who usually have little in common. Also, tying it to post count turns it into a major status symbol, especially if "more posts = more badass" and that just doesn't end well. We should either have just one as simply an aesthetic thing, or no badges at all.

There isn't supposed to be an obvious way to determine which badge represents what level of postcount and there's like a dozen badges to remember, so I doubt this scenario will occur. I guess you could try look for this information yourself, but then you might as well, say, search all members by postcount or something.

Edited by VincentASM, 10 April 2011 - 05:53 AM.

[Rewjeo]

Can I just ask... is my badge really that April Fool's day joke from last year?

It DOES bother me to have this one, myself, because, since I don't have an avatar, that basically becomes my avatar and represents me... and I don't think it does that very well... But, honestly, it's not that big of a deal.

Edit: It changed!

Edited by Rewjeo, 10 April 2011 - 05:31 PM.

[Tables]

There isn't supposed to be an obvious way to determine which badge represents what level of postcount and there's like a dozen badges to remember, so I doubt this scenario will occur. I guess you could try look for this information yourself, but then you might as well, say, search all members by postcount or something.

A moderator that shall remain nameless once told me my post count was exactly 777. That was pretty cool.

So I must be getting close to 1,000 posts by now. Hm. Wonder if I'll see my badge change.

Edit:

Yune
Griel
Nephenee
Boyd
Vika
Firio
Muarim
Roro
Soren
Nolan
Cavalier's Horse
Micaiah
Sothe
Black Knight
Mist
Ike

Is the list. Surprisingly easy to figure out once you look at the image urls... since they're in order, starting with http://serenesforest...am_icons/00.png for Ike and ending with http://serenesforest...am_icons/14.png for Yune

Updated list courtesy of Phoenix and Radiant

Edited by Cylon, 10 April 2011 - 11:45 AM.

[Boney]

If you don't like your badge, post more.
If you don't want to see the badges, get Firefox and AdBlock Plus.
Or just deal with it.

Heh, it easy for someone who doesn't hate the badge they got to say that. I like
the badges, but seriously, I would be mad as hell if I got Micaiah.

Edited by April, 10 April 2011 - 09:57 AM.

[OldMan]

Heh, it easy for someone who doesn't hate the badge they got to say that. I like
the badges, but seriously, I would be mad as hell if I got Micaiah.

Since it's postcount-based, there's a rather easy solution for that... and also a not-so-hidden insidious side-effect.

[Tables]

Also TheEnd seems to have his own unique badge. He also doesn't seem to be on the list of top posters (not in the first 30 pages), despite having something like 10K profile views (that's like 10 times what I have, and I barely post and am on something like page 6)

Edit: I do know why he has his own badge. Just before someone points that out...

Edited by Cylon, 10 April 2011 - 10:09 AM.

[Radiant Dragon]

Speaking of The End's badge... Who is that?