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#41 jorgito

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 08:50 AM

I just came back from a great battle in which I came out victorious.

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#42 SlayerX

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:34 AM

Also if you complicate this too much people who play casual Brawl aren't going to understand and might not like it, I'd stick to a list of stages you can use and pick a method to decide who gets to choose the stage that is simple and doesn't involve counterpicking or striking. The more complicated things are the less interested people usually are to start with. :\


Thats why i decided on the order 1/1/2/2/L. Loser from the fourth match picks. I don't think thats too complicated. Also, I think the stage list is good enough as it is now. If anyone doesn't want to play in a certain stage make sure you tell your opponent and come up with an agreement.

Edited by Jhen Mohran, 03 August 2011 - 09:52 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:39 AM

Yes, I can see why striking and counterpicking would be hard for casual'er brawlers, at least at first. Even moreso, I completely didn't understand that 1/2/1/2/L idea - what about the first match of the set?

E: Ooooh, I thought that meant, as in the player strike order, since they are represented in the same way. If it's matches, that makes sense.

Therefore, I suggest the following; each player chooses the stage from the starter list in all matches, and the wifi will do the rest by randomly choosing either to use. Still, I require more rules - what about suicides and the event of sudden death?

Also, is this a single- or double-elimination? Double takes a lot of time, especially if not everyone is online all the time, but Single is quite unfair, and already half drop off in the first round. Also, think about the two best players being matched in the first round? The other wouldn't even have another game, while the other goes and wins the whole thing. Or some other format of a tourney?

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#44 SlayerX

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:46 AM

Yes, I can see why striking and counterpicking would be hard for casual'er brawlers, at least at first. Even moreso, I completely didn't understand that 1/2/1/2/L idea - what about the first match of the set?

What about the first?

Therefore, I suggest the following; each player chooses the stage from the starter list in all matches, and the wifi will do the rest by randomly choosing either to use. Still, I require more rules - what about suicides and the event of sudden death?

Stop complicating things. Just no suicides, and sudden death is honestly too hard for it to happen with stocks. Anywho in case it happens the win won't count and you will go into an extra match.

Also, is this a single- or double-elimination? Double takes a lot of time, especially if not everyone is online all the time, but Single is quite unfair, and already half drop off in the first round. Also, think about the two best players being matched in the first round? The other wouldn't even have another game, while the other goes and wins the whole thing. Or some other format of a tourney?


Its single, my experience with tourneys here is that they take too long. Using a point system would work, but again it would take too long. So singles it will be. Just do your best.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:50 AM

Stages that move suck. 8[

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:52 AM

I adressed that already.

If anyone doesn't want to play in a certain stage make sure you tell your opponent and come up with an agreement.



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Posted 03 August 2011 - 09:56 AM

ok cool. Because I only play in four stages:

Final Destination.
Battlefield.
Eldin Bridge.
The Great Sea.

Although Yoshi's Island (SSBB) may fit there. I prefer simply stages that don't try to kill you or are colorful enough to make you depressed.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 10:44 AM

Yeah, I already edited my post that I get your stage selection system, and that indeed is simpler.

As for no suicides, though, I can't let that be. If I'm playing Ganondorf, which I often am, I can't stop myself from recovering with his side-B. What if the enemy is caught while trying to edgeguard (and to complicate the matter, we are both at last stock)? It's not like it's my fault they are there. Sorta like not allowing gimping or spiking, imo. So we will just play an extra match because of that?

As for single-elimination - then, I shall extert all my force and strenght upon the opponents here, and be victorious! Well, in my dreams, anyway. ..Waiting for that August 9th, then, I guess.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 11:50 AM

As for no suicides, though, I can't let that be. If I'm playing Ganondorf, which I often am, I can't stop myself from recovering with his side-B. What if the enemy is caught while trying to edgeguard (and to complicate the matter, we are both at last stock)? It's not like it's my fault they are there. Sorta like not allowing gimping or spiking, imo. So we will just play an extra match because of that?


No suicide moves? That's like saying "no edgehogging".

Gonna have to agree with you in saying "that's stupid".

If you do that at a local tournament, they're gonna laugh you out of the room.

Ganon's side b is a legitimate strategy... and you can legitimately bait it out and punish it :/

Edited by shadowofkitty, 03 August 2011 - 11:50 AM.


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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:02 PM

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#51 SlayerX

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:15 PM

No suicide moves?


I thought you guys meant suiciding alone :<... Yeah suiciding with your enemy is allowed. lol

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:23 PM

Here's the thing I love about people playing Brawl. Especially during friendlies.

Camp. Camp. Camp.

"Dude, you DO know you're not in a tourney match right? The usual 'I play to win' tactics are just plain 'I am a jerk'"

*Time out and that Olimar wins*


Congrats, you just wasted 5 minutes of our life. And you won... NOTHING.

Edited by shadowofkitty, 03 August 2011 - 12:23 PM.


#53 Trails in the Blaze

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:25 PM

lolol this is going to be funny

no wonder everyone just copies rules straight from Smashboards

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:27 PM

@PS1 and PS2 while PS1 is at least bearable for a counterpick that topic you gave is more or less one person's list of excuses as to why PS2 should be included, it doesn't change the fact that it involves more outside factors than stages like FD, Battlefield, and Smashville, which have very little to no stage interference.


You do know that PS2 is a tournament legal stage both in the US and the EU (most of the time anyway)? Those threads greatly helped making it legal.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:31 PM

Playing to win is what makes Brawl fun for me, although people are free to disagree. I just can't like things like 3-4 player FFA or playing with no heavy winning incentive anymore.

But that hardly is related to this tournament. People have different reasons to play, and also, different reasons to join this tournament. That's a fact and you can't change it.
As for winning by timeout in a friendly match, you always 'win' the satisfaction of beating the other guy :3 And it took only 5 minutes.
As for me, I know that people groan at overcompetetiviness, but that's just how everyone around me is. I attend offline tournaments, and play Brawl 70-90% of the time just to be better at them - I can't help it, really. Same applies for all the friends I've made in said tournaments.

I know that the point of this isn't winning or being overly competetive (there's no prize, heck, almost no fame either), but I still like playing that way. And hey, if I prove I'm the strongest, it's a bonus. It's what makes Brawl fun for me, and regardless of your opinion, that still is true.

But I agree, people are sometimes ridiculously overcompetetive, so much that it actually is rather funny or sad. Myself included.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:32 PM

Here's the thing I love about people playing Brawl. Especially during friendlies.Camp. Camp. Camp."Dude, you DO know you're not in a tourney match right? The usual 'I play to win' tactics are just plain 'I am a jerk'"*Time out and that Olimar wins*Congrats, you just wasted 5 minutes of our life. And you won... NOTHING.


No camping then... :mellow: Wait nevermind i know what you mean. I didn't want time but i guess i should put it huh. what would you recommend as a good time?

lolol this is going to be funnyno wonder everyone just copies rules straight from Smashboards


I didn't know a tourney of this game would require so many rules :<

Edited by Jhen Mohran, 03 August 2011 - 12:34 PM.


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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:40 PM

No camping then... :mellow: Wait nevermind i know what you mean. I didn't want time but i guess i should put it huh. what would you recommend as a good time?


If we're having 3 stocks, 8 minutes would be the standard timer.

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:41 PM

For four stocks, it would probably be best to be set at 10 minutes, with a ledge grab limit of 50.

-if the game ends because of time, the player in the lead wins, unless his/her ledge grab amount surpassed the limit, in which case he/she loses the match

I'd still suggest three stocks and 8 minutes, though. It's more standard, and you don't need 30-50 minutes to play one set of matches.

And about suicides - I meant that if a suicide move ends the game with both players having the last stock, is the suicide move's user the winner or what? Since the game will at often times go to Sudden Death at that point. I'd like it if we would just ignore the Sudden Death and have the suicider win the match, makes it simpler IMO - but you're the tournament organizer.

Edited by mmKALLL, 03 August 2011 - 12:45 PM.


#59 SlayerX

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:41 PM

If we're having 3 stocks, 8 minutes would be the standard timer.


Sounds reasonable. Editing OP.

Any other concerns?

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Posted 03 August 2011 - 12:44 PM

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