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[Solais]

Nope. If that happens you're lying wrong. That's your prablem, not lying's.

[eclipse]

Nope. If that happens you're lying wrong. That's your prablem, not lying's.

It means your team's talking to each other, and forming other alliances. By doing that, they learn who's on each side. Lying constantly means that you're telling the other teams that you can't be trusted. Ergo, you go down.

[Solais]

I can't be trusted by definition and you all kill me night 0 anyway.

Oh here's another one for the dump: If you die night 0 it's because you're the best.

[Paperblade]

No, it's because you were godkilled

[Solais]

Yep, killed for being god. I know

[Paperblade]

[Solais]

shut up papermole.

[Blitz]

I finally figured some advice,

try to share all info you have with the rest of your group(if you have one) and share all the important info you have with someone you can trust if you are not part of a group(what I am trying to say is don't die knowing someone is mafia without telling anyone else, if there is a will system, then it is different).

[SlayerX]

Is this comment pointed towards me?
I have learned my lesson already so please stop.

I said groups and past because it has been done by other people in the past. Not just you, plus its never too early to tell this to newcomers.

[Ether]

To add on to Life's point of 'Play to Win', do not always assume that others are playing to win, as it can cause you trouble at times. As an example, in Unicycle mafia, when backed into a corner, I attempted to rally the town as the final member of 1 of 2 mafias, when the other was in the position to win immediately upon my death.

What did the town do? They lynched me. And they lost. There is a reason why a mafioso was town MVP that game.

Anyway, do not assume that people will make the right decision, let alone one that makes any sort of logical sense, because if you do so, when they do something stupid (and someone always will) it could screw you over big time.

[Paperblade]

Someone playing suboptimally doesn't necessarily mean they're not trying to win. They might just be unskilled or not have the same information that you do

[Ether]

Someone playing suboptimally doesn't necessarily mean they're not trying to win. They might just be unskilled or not have the same information that you do

I wouldn't use suboptimal to describe that situation, myself. It does not fully describe the quantity of error involved. Though I suppose it just leads into another point of advice, which would be not to assume that people will play well.

[Solais]

Which reminds me...it is sometimes a good idea to target players because of their (perhaps only perceived) intelligence over attacking the person who is most suspicious (someone who is probably mafia if you're town, someone who is probably a power role if you're mafia). After all, if the only people left in the game are dumbasses, it doesn't matter if they're on your team or not. They're going to fuck up.

[Solais]

claiming to get people off of you is pretty viable but LEAVE OUT PARTS THAT GET YOU KILLED BY THE MAFIA next time jesus fuck

"I have a super secret special ability when I [accomplish difficult task that is now easy due to me claiming]" is an excellent way to paint a big ass target all over yourself.

CUT OUT SHIT OR DOCTOR IT if you're sharing your role PM and information therein is [incredibly fucking sensitive, or perhaps even just slightly].

Even if you're town. Yes. Lying when you're town is usually retarded. You have to be tact about it. Just do what's...not stupid.

[Rapier]

Can anyone explain to me why it's top priority to lynch innactive players?

[Scarlet]

Can anyone explain to me why it's top priority to lynch innactive players?

It's not top priority to lynch them. It's important to get them to talk, and voting for them is one of the more effective ways to achieve this. It's just that people sometimes tend to overdo it (with sheeping and whatnot) and outright lynch the person in question.

[Hikarasuman]

Well, if they aren't under serious threat of lynch that isn't gonna convince them to talk much now are they

[SlayerX]

Well, if they aren't under serious threat of lynch that isn't gonna convince them to talk much now are they

Biggest flaw with pressure voting... Not enough, and they don't talk, too much and they die :/

[Solais]

don't play if you're going to be inactive

[Scarlet]

If votes start to pile on you and there's a serious danger that you might get lynched, do whatever is necessary to get people off you, regardless of your alignment. Usually, this means that you need to make a convincing claim.

If you're mafia, this is obvious: you need to do this to save your own skin, and be it just for that one day. The longer it takes for the mafia to die, the bigger are their chances of winning.

If you're 3rd party, this is also obvious: most 3rd parties are single players, so they usually need to survive to win. Some 3rd party roles, like the Survivor, aren't a direct threat to neither the town nor the mafia, thus generally leading to them leaving you alone, or at least you may be able to work out some deals that keep you alive.

If you're town, getting yourself lynched will still help the town by giving them info, right? Wrong. Why waste the town's lynch when you know you're not scum? The very least you can do is truthfully claim your role to provide the town with the info they decided they wanted without needing to lynch you, thus giving them the opportunity to lynch somebody else and maybe actually catch a mafia that way. Also inform the town about what you did the previous nights, unless you think this helps the mafia more than it would help the town (this is rare, but sometimes such a situation does occur). Yes, this will most likely get you killed by the mafia the following night, especially if you have a very powerful role like cop or doc. It's still better than getting lynched, as lynching uses up the town's limited weapon; the mafia, on the other hand, has a kill every night anyway, and all your claim is likely going to do is provide them with a priority target instead of speeding up their victory.