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#41 Dark Legend Vampire

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 05:56 AM

Uhh...

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 09:24 AM

alright all of that makes sense now, thanks

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Posted 04 November 2011 - 05:22 PM

Because he faps Dorcas, unsuccessfully.........

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:40 AM

Why are you using Warriors anyways? All of them suck and cannot compare to Berserkers.

Only exception to this would be in games where there is no berserker, or FESD. Berserkers really took the nerf there.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:33 AM

Why are you using Warriors anyways? All of them suck and cannot compare to Berserkers.

This implies that units like Garret and Dozla are even usable. I'll take fucking Garcia and Lot over Dozla and Garret any day of the week. Hawkeye's the only good one and that's because his bases don't actually stink.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:46 AM

Why are you using Warriors anyways? All of them suck and cannot compare to Berserkers.

Only exception to this would be in games where there is no berserker, or FESD. Berserkers really took the nerf there.


Well, because not all pirates/berserkers are y'now-GOOD

This implies that units like Garret and Dozla are even usable. I'll take fucking Garcia and Lot over Dozla and Garret any day of the week. Hawkeye's the only good one and that's because his bases don't actually stink.



Yeah-the only easy to use ones are Hawkeye, Gonzales, and maybe Ross

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:49 AM

This implies that units like Garret and Dozla are even usable. I'll take fucking Garcia and Lot over Dozla and Garret any day of the week. Hawkeye's the only good one and that's because his bases don't actually stink.


Dozla is useable...

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:08 AM

Dozla is useable...

Maybe on Easy Mode.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 09:50 AM

Dozla's base 9AS is hilariously bad. And his 4 base luck is also pretty poor.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:06 AM

Dozla is pretty bad but he has his uses. He can take on a swarm of random enemies with a Killer Axe and OHKO roughly half of them, boosting his durability with a mountain or peak if possible. He can't compare to trained growth units obviously.

Still, talking about Berserkers being oh so superior compared to Warriors is very misleading. Most options in either class are rather subpar units overall...I'd say GBA Berserkers are only barely saved by Hawkeye.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:07 AM

Dolza is only really alright in chapter 12 (IIRC, the one where Saleh joins on Eirika's route) where he can tank Gargoyles on the mountains. Same with Baels, but he can't hit those either. He's pretty terrible otherwise.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:49 AM

Well, apparently, The only Warrior that's good right off the bat, is Geitz

Because the fighters take time, and Bartre in fe6 prevents you from getting Echidna.

Hawkeye is the best Berserker in the GBA series
Gonzo is the next best IMO

The rest are mediocre IMO

Lot>Geese
Dorcas&Bartre>Dart
fe6 Bartre>Garret
Garcia>Dozla
Boyd>largo
Hawkeye=Geitz
Gonzo>>Ward

Am I right?

#53 Thor Odinson

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:16 PM

I feel like Berserker itself is a good class, but most of the units in them have serious issues that can't be made up by the class.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:19 AM

Why are you using Warriors anyways? All of them suck and cannot compare to Berserkers.

Bowz.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 02:25 AM

I feel like Berserker itself is a good class, but most of the units in them have serious issues that can't be made up by the class.


To be fair, the same could be said for warrior. But yeah, neither are very good. The only real standouts from my experience, which is 7 and 8, are Geitz, who's basically Bartre without the terrible start, and Hawkeye who has sick bases, but mehish growths. Dart can be good if you don't mind blowing 50,000 gold on him, but even then, he's not a whole lot better than Hawkeye and he actually takes training to get there.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 07:24 AM

Bowz.



Use a Sniper. Or a Nomad. Hell, promote Gerik to ranger in FE8 if you want bows that bad.


Now when I meant by berserkers, I was talking about pirates too. Lot is decent in fe6, but I prefer Geitz/Gonzales(yeah, frgiin gonzales) over him any day. EVEN if he's a little inaccurate, he does what axemen do, pound the enemy to a pulp.
Dart's much better than Dorcas and better than Bartre as well. Now its up to the player whether he wants to blow 50000 gold or not. If not ranked run, certainly Dart. OH, and Hawkeye is as usable as Geitz.
Now its true Dozla ain't great, but all enemies in FE8 are weak, so even Dozla's usable. Not as great as Garcia, but even Garcia's not great. xD



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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:05 AM

Use a Sniper. Or a Nomad. Hell, promote Gerik to ranger in FE8 if you want bows that bad.

No other bow users can use axes, and vice versa. Having the best and cheapest ranged weapon along side the best and cheapest close range/two range weapon is pretty damn useful, especially when it comes to killing wyverns.

Now when I meant by berserkers, I was talking about pirates too. Lot is decent in fe6, but I prefer Geitz/Gonzales(yeah, frgiin gonzales) over him any day. EVEN if he's a little inaccurate, he does what axemen do, pound the enemy to a pulp.
OH, and Hawkeye is as usable as Geitz.
Now its true Dozla ain't great, but all enemies in FE8 are weak, so even Dozla's usable. Not as great as Garcia, but even Garcia's not great. xD


You mean Geese.
Play HHM, Geitz dominates Hawkeye in all but resistance I believe.
and Ross

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 10:45 AM

Geitz doesn't dominate Hawkeye at all. They double most of the same things despite a 2-3 AS difference, are about tied in str, but Hawkeye's durability parameters are all significantly better than Geitz's.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 05:35 PM

Geitz doesn't dominate Hawkeye at all. They double most of the same things despite a 2-3 AS difference, are about tied in str, but Hawkeye's durability parameters are all significantly better than Geitz's.

Hmm, looking at base stats, Geitz has -6hp, +1st, -1sk, +3sp, -3lk, -2df, -6rs. Guess you're right, memory failed me.

Edited by deranger, 09 December 2011 - 05:36 PM.


#60 Bluedoom

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 12:31 AM

No other bow users can use axes, and vice versa. Having the best and cheapest ranged weapon along side the best and cheapest close range/two range weapon is pretty damn useful, especially when it comes to killing wyverns.



You mean Geese.
Play HHM, Geitz dominates Hawkeye in all but resistance I believe.
and Ross



Yeah, I mean Geese. I totally messed that up.

Doesn't matter if you can use two weapons when you're infact stuck to a weapon every turn unless you waste another unit to trade and get another weapon equipped. Besides, Berserkers are usually faster than the warriors, have an actual crit rate, and end up killing more than warriors. They basically can kill wyverns easily with their axes.

Also, Ross requires more effort than Garcia and Dozla.




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