Suggesting that the tier list, which shows "expert perspective", should shift some characters higher or lower? "Ike+Pikachu should be higher, in my opinion. Pikachu's thunder always seems to be very cheap --"
You can always go and build your own tier list with the "n00b perspective", but these are very subject to change in even short amounts of time. However, shifting the high-level-play -oriented lists just because scrubs or beginners want it would be very strange, since they are, after all, intended to show which characters are most viable in competitive play. Not to show which characters are capable of getting lucky shots.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't post, but it's logical sense that there's probably more reason behind these lists than what you can come up with to prove that they aren't good. (that is, a good tier list being very accurate and therefore not needing any shifting for a long time)
But disagreement is a good thing in many matters; it creates discussion and discussion might open new mindsets.
Unfortunately,You'd need some pretty good arguments to get Ike or Pikachu or pretty much anyone higher in a tier list of this game anymore.
Beginners often see heavy/slow characters as better than they are, as low-level play has many more mistakes, poor spacing, and a ton of chances to punish. Not to mention that these characters usually excel against the AI well enough. Conversely, technical characters with less direct offense (for example the Diddy you mentioned), or characters with "tedious" playstyles demotive of what a "scrub" would call "fun", are ranked lower in the minds of beginners, since they show their strenghts clearly and directly less often in low-level play, or just get shadowed by the other characters' "instant gain" -style of advantage. An factor, imo, is also that there are lots of people flocking to Smash, who have little experience with other fighting games, whereas a veteran of other fighting games would probably adapt easily to the mindset of how to win in Smash, even though the games are completely different.
/textwall about something completely irrelevant and non-interesting. Ah, if only I were as enthusiastic about my essays..
I didn't think my opinion would be taken into account, because i didn't post anything specific enough.
And I don't think I'm as bad as I'm made out to be by you. I'm obviously not nearly as good as people who do this, but I'm certainly not terrible compared to the children 11- who play this game.
And I never said Diddy's playstyle was tedious. I said it's possible fot people to not like playing for truns because it can be considered tedious. And if I did say Diddy wasn't good, I meant to say i wasn't good as him, and I said Meta Knight had never been great for me. I never said they couldn't be. I didn't want to get into an argument.