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[Aquaman]

Well, here are several characters I have not figured out how to use to their full potential.

Volug-
No, I'm not kidding, what do I do with this guy.
I not a clue.
But he is the best DB overall, and I would like a low-maitenence, high combat unit.
And yes, I plan on doing Earth X Earth.
But, do I give him a Drop or something??
(I really want to use him and bring him to the tower.)

Devdan-
No clue, just appeared to be fun to raise.
And I want someone to dump some BEXP on.

Aran-
I'm not kidding
He does appear to perform well, but I'm not sure
That Black Armour is BA though.

MOrdecai-
9 move general-
Any insight on how to use him.
When I try, his gauge drops like pants.

Nealuchi-
I have no clue
Getting him to S strike through Sals method would help, but his availibility stinks, as does his growths.....

ROFL-
BEXP dump, or should I have him level naturally??
Or ditch

Brom-
Yes, I am crazy.
He does have good availibility and Axes-but everything else stinks.

Makalov-
Well, 3rd tier Mak can cap speed fast, and hand axes forges do exist......
Just wanted to know how to use him to his full potential..

Rhys-
Yeah.
Aside from invest every speedwing and give him resolve.

And thats it.
I would like some help as to how to use these units to their full potential
Without transfers, and in NM

Other planned members
Nolan
Illyana
Janaff
Heather(Not bringing to tower)
Neph/Calill
Titania/Boyd
Mia/Lucia/Stefan
Skrimer

[Peppy]

I have used Ilyana just fine. You just need to train her very little in Part I so she can be capable of doing damage in Part III. Train her seriously in Part III and she will become awesome. Nuff said. Chapter 3-2 works wonders for Ilyana (Dracoknights galore)

[SlayerX]

Well, here are several characters I have not figured out how to use to their full potential.

Volug-
No, I'm not kidding, what do I do with this guy.
I not a clue.
But he is the best DB overall, and I would like a low-maitenence, high combat unit.
And yes, I plan on doing Earth X Earth.
But, do I give him a Drop or something??
(I really want to use him and bring him to the tower.)

Devdan-
No clue, just appeared to be fun to raise.
And I want someone to dump some BEXP on.

Aran-
I'm not kidding
He does appear to perform well, but I'm not sure
That Black Armour is BA though.

MOrdecai-
9 move general-
Any insight on how to use him.
When I try, his gauge drops like pants.

Nealuchi-
I have no clue
Getting him to S strike through Sals method would help, but his availibility stinks, as does his growths.....

ROFL-
BEXP dump, or should I have him level naturally??
Or ditch

Brom-
Yes, I am crazy.
He does have good availibility and Axes-but everything else stinks.

Makalov-
Well, 3rd tier Mak can cap speed fast, and hand axes forges do exist......
Just wanted to know how to use him to his full potential..

Rhys-
Yeah.
Aside from invest every speedwing and give him resolve.

And thats it.
I would like some help as to how to use these units to their full potential
Without transfers, and in NM

For volug 99BEXP before comabt should work nicely. a complete levl also works very well.

Aran, give him robe, skill book, dracoshield, and a drop. BEXP starts when he caps skl and defense.

Mordecai, BEXP works very nicely with him, a few levels and resolve should work very well. usually resolve + olivi in first turn, 2 turn transform and then use olivis when near 15 mark in the gauge.

Nealuchi likes BEXP levels... aside from that, you need to be extremely careful with his gauge since it drops really fast...

Rolf, just slowplay it with him, BEXP to 99, then let him have a few kills. He should be awesome by around lv 15-17 and ready for crown or BEXP promotion

Rhys, again slowplay it with him. The speed wings investment isn't really necessary also, give him miracle + resolve.

Edited by Link, 18 December 2011 - 12:22 PM.

[Black★Rock Shooter]

Well, here are several characters I have not figured out how to use to their full potential.

Volug-
No, I'm not kidding, what do I do with this guy.
I not a clue.
But he is the best DB overall, and I would like a low-maitenence, high combat unit.
And yes, I plan on doing Earth X Earth.
But, do I give him a Drop or something??
(I really want to use him and bring him to the tower.)

What? He just needs Olivi Grasses and S-rank Strike in order to wreck shit in Part 3 and the Silver chapters, but he's probably not the best endgame candidate. A Drop would be nice for him to OHKO the Fire Mages in 1-5 (barring the boss) and helps him out later on during parts 3 to 4. Sell off Wildheart; it's a nice free 500 g's.

Aran-
I'm not kidding
He does appear to perform well, but I'm not sure
That Black Armour is BA though.

He has his much ballyhooed BEXP shenanigans in play for this mode, and with Beastfoe and a Steel Lance forge he can get to a point where he OHKOs every enemy in the Laguz chapters; much unlike in HM, enemy Laguz don't have the power to penetrate his defenses. He'll need some work in Part 1 to get there, though.

MOrdecai-
9 move general-
Any insight on how to use him.
When I try, his gauge drops like pants.

Resolve works great on him, and you can just Grass him and have him face some dumbshit ranged enemy to get him into Resolve range and max gauge.

[Sawslothducksaucestrawman]

I've used a few of those.
I had to baby Devdan like crazy, give him tons of kills, bexp him up to 99 exp and give him blossom.
Aran usually turns out pretty good for me. His str/def/skill goes up fast so after he caps those bexp him for speed increases.
Makalov usually has skill problems for me. And isn't the best at one rounding. Needs strong weapons with high hit.

[Aquaman]

Soo.

From what I hear, Makalov and Devdan aren't easy to train.

Mordy needs resolve and grass to wreck shit

Volug needs S strike, grass, and adept+drop to wreck shit.

Aran needs a bit of care, but can wreck shit.

Nealuchi needs tons of BEXP and grass.

ROFL can be babied
Rhys can too.

[SlayerX]

Soo.

From what I hear, Makalov and Devdan aren't easy to train.

Mordy needs resolve and grass to wreck shit

Volug needs S strike, grass, and adept+drop to wreck shit.

Aran needs a bit of care, but can wreck shit.

Nealuchi needs tons of BEXP and grass.

ROFL can be babied
Rhys can too.

In a nutshell

[Aquaman]

In a nutshell

Also-
I'm guessing
LOL at training 2 CRKs not named Marcia/Calill.

[Juliet]

Well, here are several characters I have not figured out how to use to their full potential.

Volug-
No, I'm not kidding, what do I do with this guy.
I not a clue.
But he is the best DB overall, and I would like a low-maitenence, high combat unit.
And yes, I plan on doing Earth X Earth.
But, do I give him a Drop or something??
(I really want to use him and bring him to the tower.)

Just have him raise his strike. No Einstein project required.

Devdan-
No clue, just appeared to be fun to raise.
And I want someone to dump some BEXP on.

I start by BEXP'ing him to 99 before 2-3, then just feed him one of the two (or the two) Warriors and a Paladin and the boss for a start. In 3-9, if he got lucky enough to reach 23 AS, he'll actually be able to kill things if you give him the Brave lance. And try to get him to proc some Str and Def in those levels. By 3-11's base, just BEXP him to lvl 20 and then Crown him.

Aran-
I'm not kidding
He does appear to perform well, but I'm not sure
That Black Armour is BA though.

Aran sucks, don't even bother.

MOrdecai-
9 move general-
Any insight on how to use him.
When I try, his gauge drops like pants.

Don't have him go to a mosh pit of enemies, much less if said enemies have lots of 2-range. Have him use the Olivi Grass each one or two turns. Again, there's no Einstein project here.

Nealuchi-
I have no clue
Getting him to S strike through Sals method would help, but his availibility stinks, as does his growths.....

BEXP. Lots of it. At least until he reaches lvl 30. Try to have him cap Spd and Def, then give him an Energy Drop, Tear and Adept.

Brom-
Yes, I am crazy.
He does have good availibility and Axes-but everything else stinks.

Then why bother? He's probably no fun to use either.
Anyway, I don't know how to help you here, having not used him. Give him the Speedwings and Angelic Robe and BEXP slowplay a bit. ;/ His growths and stats are just so mediocre.

Makalov-
Well, 3rd tier Mak can cap speed fast, and hand axes forges do exist......
Just wanted to know how to use him to his full potential..

Makalol is basically Danved on a horse. Do the same thing as Danved and support him with Marcia for extra Atk.

Rhys-
Yeah.
Aside from invest every speedwing and give him resolve.

Don't waste all those Speedwings on him, just reset-abuse for Spd. 8P He'll just about always suck, I don't recommend you training him. You're better off training Brom and maybe even Aran.

I would like some help as to how to use these units to their full potential
Without transfers, and in NM

Other planned members
Nolan
Illyana
Janaff
Heather(Not bringing to tower)
Neph/Calill
Titania/Boyd
Mia/Lucia/Stefan
Skrimer

BROlan: Just train him in Part 1. It's not hard at all and it should come naturally. Have him get kills constantly.
Ilyana: Try to feed her kills that others weaken. You really want to get "lucky" with her Spd if you want to get her to be useful. Either that, or you can just get her to lvl 20 by 1-8/1-E and give her an Angelic Robe and a Secret book so she can BEXP slowplay in Part 3.
Janaff: Just BEXP him a level from his base and give him Wildheart, Adept and Tear throughout Part 3. He should be getting an S-rank by the end of Part 3. He use the same trick in Part 4, but he'd want higher Str/Spd so he doesn't suck when Halfshifted.
Heather: Feed her kills at every chance. Have her Steal things (especially the 2-2 Secret Book). Then at 2-E's base, give her the Secret Book and BEXP her to lvl 16. Give her Adept in Part 3. Forges optional for 2-range.
Neph/Callil: Same as Heather. Basically, just give them Part 2's BEXP. It's hard to train three lvl 5~ units at the same time. :/ So my recommendation for Callil is to BEXP her to lvl 20 in 3-E. Nephenee should get at least half of Part 2's BEXP and then Part 3 stick to forges + Adept.
Boyd: Have him level fast through 3-P and 3-1. An Angelic Robe, Secret Book and a Speedwings aid his doubling issues.
Titania: A Speedwings gets her to double. Just have her kill enemies in 3-P and 3-1.
Mia: Adept + forges. That's it. BEXP is optional.
Lucia: An Energy Drop and BEXP by 4-2. Adept will make her offense reliable.
Stefan: He doesn't need training. Just BEXP.
Skrimir: BEXP him to lvl 30.99 and give him Roar and Blossom (If it it fits). Otherwise just BEXP him to 99 Exp in 4-P and have him use Blossom. Make sure he gets Spd. That'll keep him 1RKO'ing consistently.

Edited by Jigglypuff, 18 December 2011 - 03:00 PM.

[Aquaman]

Just have him raise his strike. No Einstein project required.


I start by BEXP'ing him to 99 before 2-3, then just feed him one of the two (or the two) Warriors and a Paladin and the boss for a start. In 3-9, if he got lucky enough to reach 23 AS, he'll actually be able to kill things if you give him the Brave lance. And try to get him to proc some Str and Def in those levels. By 3-11's base, just BEXP him to lvl 20 and then Crown him.


Aran sucks, don't even bother.


Don't have him go to a mosh pit of enemies, much less if said enemies have lots of 2-range. Have him use the Olivi Grass each one or two turns. Again, there's no Einstein project here.


BEXP. Lots of it. At least until he reaches lvl 30. Try to have him cap Spd and Def, then give him an Energy Drop, Tear and Adept.


Then why bother? He's probably no fun to use either.
Anyway, I don't know how to help you here, having not used him. Give him the Speedwings and Angelic Robe and BEXP slowplay a bit. ;/ His growths and stats are just so mediocre.


Makalol is basically Danved on a horse. Do the same thing as Danved and support him with Marcia for extra Atk.


Don't waste all those Speedwings on him, just reset-abuse for Spd. 8P He'll just about always suck, I don't recommend you training him. You're better off training Brom and maybe even Aran.


BROlan: Just train him in Part 1. It's not hard at all and it should come naturally. Have him get kills constantly.
Ilyana: Try to feed her kills that others weaken. You really want to get "lucky" with her Spd if you want to get her to be useful. Either that, or you can just get her to lvl 20 by 1-8/1-E and give her an Angelic Robe and a Secret book so she can BEXP slowplay in Part 3.
Janaff: Just BEXP him a level from his base and give him Wildheart, Adept and Tear throughout Part 3. He should be getting an S-rank by the end of Part 3. He use the same trick in Part 4, but he'd want higher Str/Spd so he doesn't suck when Halfshifted.
Heather: Feed her kills at every chance. Have her Steal things (especially the 2-2 Secret Book). Then at 2-E's base, give her the Secret Book and BEXP her to lvl 16. Give her Adept in Part 3. Forges optional for 2-range.
Neph/Callil: Same as Heather. Basically, just give them Part 2's BEXP. It's hard to train three lvl 5~ units at the same time. :/ So my recommendation for Callil is to BEXP her to lvl 20 in 3-E. Nephenee should get at least half of Part 2's BEXP and then Part 3 stick to forges + Adept.
Boyd: Have him level fast through 3-P and 3-1. An Angelic Robe, Secret Book and a Speedwings aid his doubling issues.
Titania: A Speedwings gets her to double. Just have her kill enemies in 3-P and 3-1.
Mia: Adept + forges. That's it. BEXP is optional.
Lucia: An Energy Drop and BEXP by 4-2. Adept will make her offense reliable.
Stefan: He doesn't need training. Just BEXP.
Skrimir: BEXP him to lvl 30.99 and give him Roar and Blossom (If it it fits). Otherwise just BEXP him to 99 Exp in 4-P and have him use Blossom. Make sure he gets Spd. That'll keep him 1RKO'ing consistently.

Thanks

I'm having one heck of a hard time right now.
And posting stuff in the drafts forum would only get Integ mad

I'll skip Neal and go for Janaff.
Skipping Makalov. 30% Strength growth on a tellius Pally is not right.

Using Lucia>>Stefan
Boyd and Rhys will be dropped.
Brom is being dropped.
Neph and Calill may be dropped, depending on how they turn out
(Hs drafted Calill too many times
Devdan may be dropped, if he doesn't get blessed.

I just want to experiment with different units here, and see how they turn out.
So I know my fe10 draft picks better

Already started,
Volug is WTF raping with just a drop+adept
Nolans Raping
Aran is tanking, as well as OHKOing or leaving enemy with 1-5 HP
Illyana will wait for p3 BEXP

Volug has earned my thourough respect for taking on 6 fire mages and Howling them all.
Allowing Aran and Nolan to kill 'em all.

[Juliet]

Makalol's Str growth is 40%, though. It's not bad, just slightly below average.

Lucia is a little better than Stefan because she has two chapters of availability before he joins in. It's not a bad choice to pick Stefan over her.

[Aquaman]

Makalol's Str growth is 40%, though. It's not bad, just slightly below average.

Lucia is a little better than Stefan because she has two chapters of availability before he joins in. It's not a bad choice to pick Stefan over her.

Checked-

Makalovs Strength growth is 30%

And He's equal to Marcia in growth.

except that Marcia has fanboys, he doesn't

[Celice]

The only characters I've never got a hang of using was the Ragz units. They just performed so distinctly different that my usual play style didn't bind with them. If I ever replay one of the games, I plan on trying them sometime.

Everyone else I've used at least once until end-game.

[Juliet]

Checked-

Makalovs Strength growth is 30%

And He's equal to Marcia in growth.

except that Marcia has fanboys, he doesn't

Where are you checking?

[Aquaman]

Where are you checking?

I need better glasses.....
I tried Mak once in EM.
Even with favoritism, at 3-11.
He only had 26 strength.....

Yeah, I see why he's not a good choice to train.

Using Devdan>Mak.

[Juliet]

Makalulz isn't really all that bad. I'd wager to say he's underrated, even. But I don't blame you guys. He's ugly. Who's attention does he get? Especially with those bases and mediocre growths. At least people like Gonzales have a good excuse to be used.
Anyway, Makalol has a mount, and when he promotes, he is able to use axes for the Atk boost he wants. It helps that he may support Marcia (they have the same Mov and a bond) for some bonuses (especially Atk).

[Quintessence]

Actually I had a playthrough with both Astrid and Makatroll. Astrid just came better in every way, better avo./dodge, triggering Sol was easier with her, she raped more enemies in 4-2 than Makalulz.

[Juliet]

Parablossom gives her room for better stats.

[Quintessence]

Big Detail: She had no Blossom and capped everything by lv.13-14. To be honest, I spent 25-30 turns training them in their chapters. It was my 2nd newbie play through:/

EDIT: That was result of lolling around with units in their chapters, seeing their good lv. ups and *oh! wtf! come to endgame with...um...Makal.... *

Edited by Quintessence, 18 December 2011 - 08:05 PM.

[Florina Stark]

Volug...yeah all you need to do is drop the Wildheart in part 3.

I dont mind Makalov that much. Hell, i even use him sometimes.