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#1741 COOL

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:35 PM

Could you two kindly keep your mouth shut if you don't have anything meaningful to say and stop spamming this thing even more than you already did. I wouldn't mind seeing a postgame of this someday, and you're not exactly helping.

#1742 Naglfar

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:52 PM

uh I'll update the OP like I should have

now do me a favour, guys

count the pages

and tell me if it's even reasonable to ask for postgame here

maybe if Proto helped, but I feel even less motivated to do this bullshit than I do most things

#1743 Rapier

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:49 PM

To be honest, I don't mind if we have a postgame or not. I was just answering 13th and remembering him that this game has a lot of pages and it's almost impossible to do a postgame. Sorry if it was a spam of some sort.

#1744 COOL

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 01:08 AM

count the pages

and tell me if it's even reasonable to ask for postgame here


Yes. While I don't expect you to carefully reread everything, you can at least get some general thoughts about the game and the setup done, or you could go through eclipse's summaries and when something seems important, reread that part specifically.

#1745 Naglfar

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 09:13 AM

I never thought to go through the summaries. I guess I can manage that.

#1746 Blitz

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 04:44 AM

will there ever be a post game for this game????

#1747 Prims

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Posted 25 April 2012 - 01:01 PM

This. The least you could do would be to show how the night actions went down.

#1748 Prims

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 01:15 PM

This. The least you could do would be to show how the night actions went down.

no seriously, did naglfar ditch this for mafiascum newbie games or something

#1749 Naglfar

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:20 AM

I only played one newbie game...

SIX MONTHS OVERDUE POSTGAME GO

It's not a very good one but I don't care.

Setup


As the first game I've ever hosted, this was experimental by definition. I assigned roles that would fit the characters I chose, paying relatively little heed to balance (even though Proto did provide plenty of help with that, in a custom-made game with all these power roles, is balance beyond a certain point even practically achievable?). My primary goal was an enjoyable game with plenty of possibilities, and as far as I can see, I succeeded in that respect. Due to my inexperience and semi-random decisions, I'll spare you any bullshit about why I went with anything in particular. Either I thought it'd be interesting, or Proto thought it'd help balance the game.

Roles

Haha, I can just copypaste this. Mostly.

Spoiler (Ryuuki)

Spoiler (Knight)

Spoiler (Zolda)

Spoiler (Raia)

Spoiler (Gai)

Spoiler (Tiger)

Spoiler (Imperer)

Spoiler (Verde)

Spoiler (Femme)

Spoiler (Scissors)

Spoiler (Ouja)

Spoiler (Abyss)

Spoiler (Odin)

Spoiler (Ryuuga)

Spoiler (Mafia!)


How Shit Went Down


If you ask me, there was a fair bit of interesting stuff that happened during the game. Mostly you people being retarded. You all disgust me.

Actions

Spoiler (Cycle 1)

Spoiler (Cycle 2)

Spoiler (Cycle 3)

Spoiler (Cycle 4)

Spoiler (Cycle 5)

Spoiler (Cycle 6)


Individual shit once I've written it. On that right now, 2/14 done. Let me know if there's anything else I should write about.

#1750 eclipse

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 12:12 PM

That's a great start. Thanks~!

#1751 Quote

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 01:26 PM

JB likes to save me N1 because he is a sweetheart

see: golden sun

#1752 Naglfar

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 02:52 PM

postgame since... 2am?

it's 7am nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

7/14

#1753 Prims

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 03:19 PM

holy shit look at those night actions, Nightmare is probably the best Town Roleblocker I've ever seen.

#1754 Naglfar

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:12 PM

>off-phase SK
>off-phase mafia janitor
>vig
>granny

best targets

#1755 Prims

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Posted 13 June 2012 - 04:19 PM

The Granny was off-phase too.

He basically targeted the best possible targets on the worst possible phases.

#1756 Iris

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:04 PM

finishplz <3

#1757 Naglfar

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 05:29 AM

oh shit oh shit i finished it i finished something

again if you want more let me know idgaf we'll see

Individual Performance

Rein: Didn't post much, seemingly through a combination of injury, illness and being Rein, but was generally on the ball all around. Ended up on a lot of bandwagons and was more correct in his suspicions as the game progressed. He was definitely a couple steps ahead of a lot of the other players.

jesus christ i just fucking posted

do all my posts have to be in fucking rainbows for people to notice them


JB: Didn't seem to be paying much attention early on, and focused much of his pressure on whoever was stupidest at the time, not really a reliable way of finding the mafia. If I'm to be honest, I think he was confusing judgemental tendencies for actual reads. When that died down, he didn't seem to have any strong opinions, and was confused sometimes, which may have been a product of him being busy with school. By the time he began appearing on the ball, what was left of the game wasn't really that hard to figure out.

Hazel couldn't stand all the bickering, but starting a fire... that would be interesting. There, however, was one problem with it.

"They won't fall for a fire. They wouldn't think us as stupid as to actually start a campfire, for sure. Also, how could you think of leaving someone here to fend them off alone? That's... too cruel..."


Eclipse: She's Eclipse. Posts summaries, scolds everyone in a motherly way, keeps people active and on their toes, is the best cop. There was no stopping her following her investigation of Kaoz. If I'm to critique her play, I'd say that she focuses a bit too hard on activity levels. She's also a filthy drunk. Town MVP.

Oh, CRAP, I need to do a summary!


Core: More difficult to get a read on this guy. He posted a fair bit of good content, and appears to have some slightly alternative ideas about scumhunting? Despite his well-founded logic, he had a humorous tendency to be wrong. He got way too caught up in the 13th debacle, which is surely what jammed his scumdar and ultimately got him shot.

I actually never did a /ranked/ list based on townishness.

Feels necessary.


Townish
Strawman
Kay
Shinori
Iris
Nightmare
Sho
Rein
Rapier
Bizz
Eclipse
JB
Blitz
13th
Scummy


Bizz and Snike: Nightmare was the only reason Bizz didn't withdraw her signup. She was as invested in the game as that fact would lead you to believe. She consistently acted preoccupied and tired, if you ask me, and yet still managed to have a better grasp of the earlygame than the vast majority of the other players, if not all of them. Sadly, she subbed out during Day 2.

Yeah, another thing, calling ____ role an idiot or 'retarded' really doesn't help anything, especially since none of us know the full story. So shut the fuck up, etc. (I'm speaking from experience--how do you think the vig, should they exist, feels to be called unnecessary names? Especially since you were 'so sure' about Blitz and were wrong?)


Snike subbed in for Bizz, said some crazy shit, shot two townies, then got killed by Sho. But seriously, he took charge during the weird claim party with the independents and tried to get the game back on track. Unfortunately he decided he was going to try to find Odin - who was Sho, who wasn't about to go back on a claim, so that didn't get anyone anywhere. I don't really see anything amounting to a significant opinion from him, save a desire to get rid of 13th. Guys, you're not going to find scum by getting caught up trying to rationalise a lynch of the persuader who claimed fool and then went back to his original claim. Some things just mean nothing.

holy shit


this game


just this game


Shinori and Kaoz: Shinori did nothing before he subbed. He weighed in a little on the 13th issue, but... that doesn't mean much when you're mafia. I don't even have a quote for this guy.

Kaoz came in and quickly got the mafia on track. He was active in the thread, posting very logical things. I question his decision to encourage a Sho lynch, since keeping Sho around so he could keep spouting bullshit could be, and was, a good way to keep the town distracted. It didn't last the phase though, he proceeded to advocate a lynch of a handful of other people. He probably would have won the game for his faction had he not been caught out by Eclipse, who he intentionally spared on Night 1 for the sake of a more interesting game. Even though the root of the mafia's defeat is on his hands, I'm going to give him Mafia MVP.

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Nightmare: His posts were sparse, but to the point and insightful. Nightmare's play was concise, easy to follow, and frankly pleasant. His reads were... inconsistent. He could stand to add some conviction, though. His reasoning could have been stronger and I don't feel he had much of a presence, if you know what I mean. A misstep made him the only townie to be killed by Strawman's role. Play a game with me sometime, ないとめあ君。

No thanks. If being more active means posting eleven times per second like you do, I'm good. I'd rather flex my muscles.


Kay: Being Kay, she didn't post much. Her early posts seemed to be more pro-town than the townies, interestingly enough. Essentially her posts were fairly sound and helped promote a town image for herself, but it seems she didn't fool the more quiet players, and Iris caught her out with her role in a particularly unlucky way. This basically guaranteed the mafia's loss.

No quote because Kay never says anything colourful.

Rapier: I have a lot of problems with how Rapier played. I can see him being noncommittal, unconfident and self-contradictory, going Super Tunnel Brothers and making odd leaps of logic in a bunch of places. More or less drove the game in the same pointless direction until he himself was accused, then he started acting smug and annoying. Then he died... also, Freudian slips.

12. Strawman - Acts like JB, but he makes sense and participates on the discussion rather than nail someone agaisnt the wall hard.


Blitz: The guy who spoke a lot yet said very little. He often posted multiple times per page and contributing nothing in any of them, and his suspicions seemed to revolve entirely around activity (and perceived defensiveness towards inactive players). I know he didn't survive past Day 1, but he really never said anything meaningful.

lol


(he said that three times)

Iris: Everybody's favourite votaler. Actually, that's the majority of what she did... I'm kind of surprised that nobody really had a negative read on her despite the fact that she posted exceedingly little content. I suppose everyone was just preoccupied with a certain trio. She took a neutral stance on most of the earlygame issues, which was the correct answer, though she never pushed much. In the end, she found Kay with her role, completely countering the janitor ability. This alone would make her Town MVP if only Eclipse wasn't here, but instead I'll give her the gold sports prize for bowling a wicked googly with her crystal ball. Eclipse shouldn't have taught her Facepalm-fu.

:facepalm:


Strawman: Strawman, the best townie. No wait, he was scum. My favourite thing about Strawman's play is that things would have been a lot easier for the town if they had taken his advice in the thread. I think we can count this as evidence that playing a completely pro-town game (in the thread) as scum may be a viable strategy, because it wins you townpoints while the dumb players ensure that your insight is never acted upon. Unfortunately, this apparently isn't the best tactic when you want as many townies to target you as you can get; only Nightmare died this way and Eclipse was under JB's protection.

CORE AND IRIS ARE OBV SCUM BUDDIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


13th: the worst player in the town If anything characterises how 13th played, it's how he spent too much time defending himself in a depressing way. His reads felt... eroded, probably because he didn't care much. Despite all this, Night 4 came around and he was suddenly on the ball... then Snike killed him. Shame. And remember kids, never claim when you're high.

No quote because he was being too depressing for most of the game to say anything funny.

Sho: nope

...okay, fine

Sho's attitude had him on the verge of being lynched all game. Since he was the wolf, this was not a good thing and guaranteed that he was going to die as soon as the town ran out of obvious lynch targets. There's really not much else to say... he did do one thing well, though. Apparently, he managed to make his fakeclaim in such a way that not one person took notice of the fact that he was taking all of his cues from Rapier's very timid and gradual claim. Maybe it was just because nobody wanted to read his posts any more than they absolutely had to. I also wonder what he intended to do when the town inevitably figured out that nobody could be Odin but him, if he had survived longer.

No quote because I'm not going through 253 posts of RAEG in an attempt to find one.

#1758 eclipse

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 11:21 AM

This was one of the most amusing postgames I've ever read. Thank you~!

#1759 COOL

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 12:07 PM

Good job on getting this done and more elaborate than I expected at that.

Personally, I believe Strawman should be Mafia MVP instead of me btw, he played very well overall while I did some things that hindered us.

#1760 Naglfar

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Posted 21 June 2012 - 12:23 PM

I feel validated.

I can't say I didn't consider Strawman for scumvp, but I just wasn't feeling it. I may have done it if the mafia won, but no luck there. Oh well.




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