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[Celice]

How so? All mounted units (who get deployed there) can do it. It feels so deliberate.

It's not intentionally deliberate, as in intended. However, it's "normalcy" is probably an unintended side effect of some other code involving unit movement. It's just an oversight--a very repeatable one. That might be where you're seeing the deliberateness--it wasn't coded to work this way--but it's very easy for the oversight to happen in controlled circumstances. It just "happens."

[Sangyul]

Speaking of Florina's pegasus ... is it male or female? She calls the pegasus female in some cases (supports with Nino and Ninian, in her first appearance) and male as others (chapter 16, supports with Hector). It's ... kind of frustrating. In Ninian's support, she says something like, "at first, this sweet mare and I were so afraid of each other ..." while in Hector's support "Huey" grabs Hector by the teeth and drags him off?

[Florina Stark]

It's not intentionally deliberate, as in intended. However, it's "normalcy" is probably an unintended side effect of some other code involving unit movement. It's just an oversight--a very repeatable one. That might be where you're seeing the deliberateness--it wasn't coded to work this way--but it's very easy for the oversight to happen in controlled circumstances. It just "happens."

I see. How very strange indeed. I dont recall ever playing that chapter and not being able to canto move after attacking with a mounted unit. Weirdness.

Florina's pegasus sounds like its a bit fat localization problem. (or she has two different ones. loooolz)

[Sangyul]

I once read a fanfic where Florina DID have two different pegasus (pegasi?). However, even if she did have a pegasus named Huey and another one named Makar, it doesn't solve the pegasus' gender problem, since both Huey and Makar have been referred to as male. Where's she getting this mare? Or maybe Florina doesn't really know what gender her pegasus is?

[Baby Bonnie Hood]

In Value of Life, the dark terrain is referred to as "Sky". Makes me wonder if the map was a recycle of another map (maybe a tower?) from an earlier game, like how the top floor of the Tower in FE8 is kinda similar to the 16x map of FE6.

Khathelet and Kathelet, however, is in the actual game.

Yeah, the text becomes "Khathelet" when the place shows up on the world map. Guess someone forgot to edit the world map.

[Refa]

So you think the game designers intentionally programmed in console-canto for one tile type in one chapter?

Haven't you seen the desert chapter?

Edited by Refa, 31 January 2012 - 08:34 AM.

[VincentASM]

In Value of Life, the dark terrain is referred to as "Sky". Makes me wonder if the map was a recycle of another map (maybe a tower?) from an earlier game, like how the top floor of the Tower in FE8 is kinda similar to the 16x map of FE6.

It's "sora" in the Japanese version, which can mean "space" or "sky". Presumably it should have been the former.

Speaking of Florina's pegasus ... is it male or female? She calls the pegasus female in some cases (supports with Nino and Ninian, in her first appearance) and male as others (chapter 16, supports with Hector). It's ... kind of frustrating. In Ninian's support, she says something like, "at first, this sweet mare and I were so afraid of each other ..." while in Hector's support "Huey" grabs Hector by the teeth and drags him off?

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it's referred to by gender. Florina usually refers to it as "konoko", which means "this child". I dunno if that phrase is used for a particular gender more or something like that though.

[arvilino]

I've just found another console style re-move. In HHM Genesis, Rath was able to re-move after combat when he was in a square where a cracked wall was.

Edited by arvilino, 31 January 2012 - 03:19 PM.

[Sangyul]

Hmm ... I just finished that Genesis chapter, but I didn't run into that glitch (was also using Rath). So ... if you knock down a cracked wall, and then attack an enemy with a mounted unit from the space that the wall used to be in, then the unit will move again?

[Mekkah]

Possibly related to PWASE (Panels Which Affect Something Else) which triggers that glitch in FE8. iirc you can also re-move from spaces where a snag used to be.

Edited by Mekkah, 31 January 2012 - 06:42 PM.

[Sangyul]

Okay, I'm at VoD again, and I tested that canto glitch with Heath. There is indeed a canto glitch at the upper left hand corner, although I'm not sure about anywhere else on the map.

[Baby Bonnie Hood]

Here's another script error, I think: In the Nino/Merlinus B support convo, Nino says a bit of dialogue that looks like it should've been spoken by Merlinus instead.

Nino: Now you’re going to listen closely to old Merlinus here, because...

[Little Al]

Can I say that I've never seen the instance where Eliwood's sprite fades to black when speaking to Nergal during the cutscene after 28xE/30xH is done until I emulated it?

[Krad]

Not exactly an error, but something I found the other day. I had a Lyn with 99 EXP at level 7 ending C7, and when I got to the C8 prep screen, she was now level 8 with 0 EXP, and her stats had gone up like a normal level. After saving and restarting the chapter, her EXP had gone up by one and she was now 8.01. This is due to her avoiding the ballista at the cutscene at the beginning of the chapter.

So if you were really bored, you could potentially get Lyn to level 20 in that single chapter by resetting, getting to the prep screen, saving, and resetting again. This should also work in another chapter where a battle happened during a cutscene (can't remember any others though, at least in this game).

[Sangyul]

Not exactly an error, but something I found the other day. I had a Lyn with 99 EXP at level 7 ending C7, and when I got to the C8 prep screen, she was now level 8 with 0 EXP, and her stats had gone up like a normal level. After saving and restarting the chapter, her EXP had gone up by one and she was now 8.01. This is due to her avoiding the ballista at the cutscene at the beginning of the chapter.

So if you were really bored, you could potentially get Lyn to level 20 in that single chapter by resetting, getting to the prep screen, saving, and resetting again. This should also work in another chapter where a battle happened during a cutscene (can't remember any others though, at least in this game).

That is quite awesome. Now I want to see it for myself. :P Of course, I highly doubt I'd be bored enough to try to get Lyn to level 20 in that chapter by resetting and stuff, but I'd be kind of impressed if someone WAS bored enough to do so. Then I'd pity them for having nothing better to do.

Not sure if this was mentioned in this thread, but when Kent and Sain first meet Lyn, they mentioned that her parents eloped 19 years ago. But in Kent and Wallace's support (can't remember which level specifically), they say that Madelyn and Hassar eloped 16 years ago. Looks like someone forgot to change that. :P

[Baby Bonnie Hood]

I had a Lyn with 99 EXP at level 7 ending C7, and when I got to the C8 prep screen, she was now level 8 with 0 EXP, and her stats had gone up like a normal level. After saving and restarting the chapter, her EXP had gone up by one and she was now 8.01. This is due to her avoiding the ballista at the cutscene at the beginning of the chapter.

A similar thing happens with Rath. You can bench him for all of Lyn mode, and he'd still have a bit of exp and a win record of one at the end. All from that one mercenary he took out in that cutscene.

[Paper Jam]

In Louise's supports with Heath and Erk, "Reglay" is sometimes misspelled as "Wrigley."

Tactics, Experience, and Funds requirements of all Hector-exclusive chapters are 0.

When Dorcas talks to you in chapter 12, he says that Natalie is still in Pherae; but she wasn't in Pherae the last time you saw her.

Edited by Paper Jam, 05 March 2012 - 08:42 AM.

[Albino]

A 12/1 Wallace (which is essentially his base level in LNM) has 15 strength and 17 defense. However, should the player choose to skip Lyn's mode and jump straight into ELiwood's/Hector's mode, he shows up as at --/1 with the same stats as his 12/1 version except he has +1 strength and +2 defense. Seeing as every other unit that shows up with higher base stats in Eliwood's/Hector's mode also shows up at a higher base level, Wallace seems unusual. So this might be a possible error, I'm not sure.

Edited by Albino, 10 March 2012 - 03:02 AM.

[BrightBow]

A 12/1 Wallace (which is essentially his base level in LNM) has 15 strength and 17 defense. However, should the player choose to skip Lyn's mode and jump straight into ELiwood's/Hector's mode, he shows up as at --/1 with the same stats as his 12/1 version except he has +1 strength and +2 defense. Seeing as every other unit that shows up with higher base stats in Eliwood's/Hector's mode also shows up at a higher base level, Wallace seems unusual. So this might be a possible error, I'm not sure.

I think I know why this is. In FE6 the promotion gains of the male General are near identical to the FE7 one except the former gets 2 more def and 1 str.

So they probaby calculated the stats for General Wallace using the FE6 promotion games and after altering the promotion gains they forgot to update Wallace stats. If you play Lyn's mode the stats transfer directly so he suffers from FE7s lower promotion gains.

Look:
FE7
HP+4 Str+2 Skl+2 Spd+3 Def+2 Res+3
FE6
HP+4 Str+3 Skl+2 Spd+3 Def+4 Res+3

Edit:
Note to myself: Don't copy and paste several values at once from tables.

Edited by BrightBow, 10 March 2012 - 06:05 AM.

[Albino]

I think I know why this is. In FE6 the promotion gains of the male General are near identical to the FE7 one except the former gets 2 more def and 1 str.

So they probaby calculated the stats for General Wallace using the FE6 promotion games and after altering the promotion gains they forgot to update Wallace stats. If you play Lyn's mode the stats transfer directly so he suffers from FE7s lower promotion gains.

Look:
FE7
HP+4 Str+2 Skl+2 Spd+3 Def+2 Res+3
FE6
HP+4 Str+3 Skl+2 Spd+3 Def+4 Res+3

Edit:
Note to myself: Don't copy and paste several values at once from tables.

Makes sense. If that's the case then I think this would qualify as an error, albeit a beneficial one.