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#1 Hamlet

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:03 AM

Rules (Borrowed from whomever made them first with modifications)
- Ratings to be assumed from when a unit is first available.
- Votes need some explanation regarding their gameplay performance to be counted (unless they fall into the general parameters of the average rating, but reasoning is still strongly encouraged on those even if you just wanna quote people) — incredibly low scores or high scores without proper justification will not be counted. Don't put in some random text thinking it'd count as justification. Put in at least a little thought and give REAL reasoning.
- Numbers for votes, please - not something like "Sigurd/10", etc.
- Personality / Appearance may be taken into account, but only +/- 1 point at the most.
- Votes out of 10, or something proportional to it, please!
- Make votes easily visible, please and thank you!
- Every ranking phase will end on the next day at approximately 10:00 PM (or 22:00), EST.
-Second Generation Note: Assume that Substitutes are done on a Subs-only run. Any "not ________" will not be accepted.

Units and Ranking (Least to Greatest):
First Generation
Diadora: 1.19
Ardan: 1.39
Tiltyu: 2.00
Briggid: 3.71
Claude: 4.42
Azel: 4.63
Jamka: 5.25
Midir: 5.47
Dew: 5.68
Holyn: 5.90
Lachesis: 6.13
Noish: 6.15
Alec: 6.17
Beowulf: 6.40
Aideen: 6.57
Ayra: 6.79
Levin: 7.87
Fin (First Generation): 7.88
Fury: 8.25
Cuan: 8.41
Lex: 8.83
Ethlin: 9.15
Sylvia: 9.50
Sigurd: 9.96

Second Generation
Roddlevan: 3.33
Skasaher: 6.00
Celice: 9.54

DAY 28: LAKCHE
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The difference between her and Skasaher is that she inherits automatically from Ayra. Usually, this can give her a better start than her brother, especially if he has a non sword-user for a father, like Lex. If Celice doesn't have the Hero Sword, Lakche does. She can ORKO at base, like her brother, but she'll probably have more swords to do it with.

Statwise she's a little behind on her brother, but when they're both wrecking everything it really doesn't matter too much. She also promotes to Swordmaster, which gives her Continue, something she'd like very much when she already has Pursuit and the Hero Sword.

Without a horse she's going to fall behind early on as well, but she's still a fantastic choice for earlygame, and can easily wreck the shit out of a lot of enemies.

7.5/10, this includes a bias point.

Edited by Octavian, 11 March 2012 - 11:09 AM.


#2 Elieson

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:05 AM

Who is this rating?

#3 Hamlet

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:10 AM

Who is this rating?

Lakche. I had to do some awkward edits because RTF was being a pain.

#4 Thor Odinson

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:14 AM

Lakche is my goddess compulsory 15/10

Right. -3 for foot unit movement like I always do. That's really her only issue. Goddammit FE4 give us harder enemies so that epic overkill offense actually makes up for not having horse or something oh well
Won't have issue with exp either and is very resource-efficent. Say you're not going to efficient this so you're actually gonna use the foot units. Toss her any sword and she's fine. Plus she's even harder to screw up than her brother. Dads just pile on growths on to what Ayra had anyway. So she's even pairing-efficient.
Oh and since she always gets inventory from mom with A->A rank sword transfer you can always pile swords that Celice can't fit/ran out of money for into her inventory. This is useful for the swords you'll get really late otherwise.

7+1 full bias because she's my goddess.

8/10

#5 Esaka

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:20 AM

Ponies are invaluable, Delmud does the killing job far better then Lakche because he always has something to kill. However, she has some good uses, if she has Elite her combat is great forever anyways. But I feel that like her mother, she's just another unit.

6.5/10

#6 Shin

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:37 AM

She-Skasaha. She'll often be a little quicker than him, and continue is nice. However, being ponyless does her no favours!

5.5./10

#7 Renall

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:43 AM

She's better than her brother and more consistent due to easier inheritance. Going Jamka or some crazy thing won't screw her since she gets mom's stuff. She's quite literally Aira++. Dodges well, strong offense, okayish defense to pretty good depending on dad (Lex!Lakche isn't exactly what I'd call super fragile, after all)... and no horse. Confound that lack of a horse! But what are you going to do.

7.5/10. Like I said, a little better than her brother.

#8 Mekkah

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 11:49 AM

3/10 so overrated i don't get it

#9 General Horace

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 12:16 PM

I think I gave Ska a 3, so i'll give her a 3.5, for the same reasons. She has better inheritance, and stats.

5/10

Edited by General Horace, 12 March 2012 - 01:21 AM.


#10 BBM

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 12:37 PM

3/10 so overrated i don't get it

More people play for fun than for LTC. And when you're playing for fun, Lakche is possibly your best non-Holy weapon user. Personally, I don't get this thing people have with FE4 where characters without a mount automatically suck. Yeah, a mount is obviously preferable to no mount. But A rank Tactics in FE4 is 400 turns, not 250. If mounted characters or characters with Warp/Return/Rescue can help you get to 250 turns, good for them. But, at least, for me, that's not the goal in most of my playthroughs. So Lex!Lakche with her amazing offence, decent defence, and good swords gets an 8/10.

#11 Holmes

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 01:54 PM

Just like Skasaher, she inherits her mother's skills Astra and Awareness, plus she gains Continue skill when promoted.
With Lex as a father, She'll have good growths in HP, Strength and Defense. and Gets the Elite and Ambush skill.

9/10

#12 The_Purple_Knight

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:28 PM

8/10 extremely useful early on but starts to fall in usefulness as time goes on . She was still fairly good until the final part of chapter 10 in which point she started to suck . I'm not one to care about move or turns and such so her lack of move doesn't count against her . +1 because she's extremely cool . Wish I could even more bias points because she's one of the most badass characters in fire emblem history .

#13 slootwindow

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 02:34 PM

4/10

Another footie that doesn't do very much that matters but doesn't take or need anything from working characters to keep being a decent extra body. Same rank as what I gave Skasaher and Rod (and soon Rad) even though she does often get better inheritance and recruits a J-axer

I figure these rankings are designed to be, "Score these characters by the ways you play, whatever they are" and then giving them a basically meaningless democratic average for fun. People can argue legitimately if they say something like, "Ayra is critical for LTC" or "Daisy is a combat monster" but if some facts fit your stated or implicit criteria that's the end of the discussion.

#14 Tyrant Sage

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

Wow what a terrible unit no horse and can't do anything worthwhile 2/10.

#15 Hamlet

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 05:13 PM

I wouldn't go so far as to say she's terrible--she isn't spectacular in drafts at the least.

#16 CT075

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:01 PM

4/10

-6 for not having a horse (do remember that I play on outrageous turbo mode these days), +1 for having epic offense, -1 for not having anything really special (like Shanan or Sety) to make me get over her lack of horsie

#17 Integrity

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 06:16 PM

what did i give slatesaber

7.5 apparently

lakche is marginally > slatesaber so 8/10

#18 Thor Odinson

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 07:37 PM

I think I gave Ska a 3, so i'll give her a 3.5, for the same reasons. She has better inheritance, and stats.


You gave Ska a 3.5 actually

#19 Pitbuller26

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

My second favorite swordmistress, first one being Ayra. What can I say? She kills things more often than not, impossible to mess her up and inherits whatever Ayra was carrying. I don't care about the lack of horse for Lakche so 9.5/10. That's including bias.

#20 Aethereal

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Posted 11 March 2012 - 08:35 PM

Situationally a great unit. Awesome offense, great inheritance, blahblahblah. Doesn't reach all the battlefields. Even if you don't play for LTC, not having a horse keeps you from getting to a lot of fights. I mean, there are still times where you want to rush from one place to the other, with or without aiming for the lowest turncount possible. And the difference in this game between mounted and not is huge.

3.5/10. Superduper offense without reaching fights=sadface.




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