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Poll: who/what is the new marth. (50 member(s) have cast votes)

what is marth?

  1. the origional marth brought forward in time. (8 votes [16.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.00%

  2. a male descendant of the origional marth. (6 votes [12.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.00%

  3. a female descendant of the origional marth. (4 votes [8.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.00%

  4. an imposter/doppelganger. (12 votes [24.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.00%

  5. a zombie of the origional marth/descendant. (3 votes [6.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.00%

  6. a robot? (3 votes [6.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.00%

  7. other. (please comment your thoughts) (3 votes [6.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.00%

  8. dont know/dont care/what is the point of this? (11 votes [22.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.00%

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#21 Cammy

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:27 PM

The fact that Marth is voiced by a female , which means that is not Marth and only and imposter who we can't say if it was male or female..

I don't see how you came to the conclusion that he isn't Marth.

#22 Griffen78

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:36 PM

...I'm starting to think someone people want marth to be female, so they can feel comfortable with their sexuality again. >.>

#23 L95

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:38 PM

Isn't japan a little more... unwilling(?) to change VAs? That could mean 'Marth' is a new character.


Or am I wrong?

#24 Child of the Tenth Month

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:44 PM

The fact that Marth is voiced by a female , which means that is not Marth and only and imposter who we can't say if it was male or female..


Female VAs voice male characters all the time.

Ash Ketchum from Pokemon is voiced by Veronica Taylor.

Hamtaro from Hamtaro is voiced by Chiara Zanni.

Karol Capel is voiced by Julie Ann Taylor. (Kumiko Watanabe in Japanese.)

So I don't see what the VA's gender matters. It has nothing to do with the gender of the character.

Edited by seph1212, 14 March 2012 - 06:45 PM.


#25 Cammy

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:46 PM

Isn't japan a little more... unwilling(?) to change VAs? That could mean 'Marth' is a new character.


Or am I wrong?

Maybe because his original VA is getting older? He was 27 in the OVA and 39 in Brawl and is 43 now. Not saying there's no possibility he could still be Marth's VA. Just giving a possible reason.

#26 Child of the Tenth Month

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:50 PM

Isn't japan a little more... unwilling(?) to change VAs? That could mean 'Marth' is a new character.


They are normally unwilling unless there are extenuating circumstances, like the VA dying, being unable to do the voice for whatever reason, the VA quitting; you get the point, so maybe Marth's older VA (Melee, the OVAs, Brawl, etc.) was just getting too old for the voice, or quit?

It could mean that this Marth is a new character, but there's no reason to jump to those conclusions based on something as shaky as changing VAs.

#27 L95

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:54 PM

Alright. I didn't know his original VA was so old, lol :V

#28 Rewjeo

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 06:55 PM

All having a female voice actor really tells us is that the "Marth" in this will sound different from the Marth in Brawl.

#29 Brave Lord

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:01 PM

Why change it to a female VA ? he had a male originally didn't he ?

Female VAs voice male characters all the time.

Ash Ketchum from Pokemon is voiced by Veronica Taylor.

Hamtaro from Hamtaro is voiced by Chiara Zanni.

Karol Capel is voiced by Julie Ann Taylor. (Kumiko Watanabe in Japanese.)

So I don't see what the VA's gender matters. It has nothing to do with the gender of the character.


I said we still don't know if it was male or female but it's definitely not Marth........

Edited by Brave Lord, 14 March 2012 - 07:05 PM.


#30 Child of the Tenth Month

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

Why change it to a female VA ? he had a male originally didn't he ?


They are normally unwilling unless there are extenuating circumstances, like the VA dying, being unable to do the voice for whatever reason, the VA quitting; you get the point, so maybe Marth's older VA (Melee, the OVAs, Brawl, etc.) was just getting too old for the voice, or quit?


Come on man, it's not that hard to miss ;/

I said we still don't know if it was male or female but it's definitely not Marth........


and why are you jumping to that conclusion without any evidence what so ever?

Edited by seph1212, 14 March 2012 - 07:07 PM.


#31 Alvis

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:03 PM

Marth's VA from the Fire Emblem OVA and Melee was not actually contacted again for Brawl, they simply imported the Marth's voice files from Melee into Brawl.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:10 PM

Marth's VA from the Fire Emblem OVA and Melee was not actually contacted again for Brawl, they simply imported the Marth's voice files from Melee into Brawl.

So he hasn't been Marth in about 11 years. That would explain a lot.

I said we still don't know if it was male or female but it's definitely not Marth........

There's no evidence to support what you seem to be so sure of...

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:19 PM

Didn't know that about Marth's VA. But reading back I do recall that a ton of voice work was done for future Smash games.

I said this is the other thread, but I think there are at least two Marth's in this game. One an imposter, the other the real Marth (whom Krom battles in the arena). Why someone would impersonate a man long since dead, I have no idea, but stranger things have happened.

#34 JosefLior

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 07:37 PM

Hey does anybody know what it says in the trailer at 6:00? It had a list that showed 3DS, DSi LL, DSi, etc. Can anyone tell me what they are saying there? I doubt it says compatible with previous gen DS's, just curious.

#35 Aversa

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:05 PM

I think Marth is the original Marth, but I don't think that it has much to do with time. Maybe it's an alternate universe or something.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:12 PM

They are normally unwilling unless there are extenuating circumstances, like the VA dying, being unable to do the voice for whatever reason, the VA quitting; you get the point, so maybe Marth's older VA (Melee, the OVAs, Brawl, etc.) was just getting too old for the voice, or quit?

It could mean that this Marth is a new character, but there's no reason to jump to those conclusions based on something as shaky as changing VAs.


Too old for the voice? LOL

Yes, Midorikawa is 43 turning 44 this year, but last year he voiced freaking HEERO YUI for SRW Z2-1, and Heero is like, what, a teenager? Age is not an issue.

On the other hand, Midorikawa may be just busy. He has after all recording work for Z2-2, Masoukishin (both the PSP remake of I and the new II), and OGs2.

That's quite the schedule, who knows.

Edited by Acacia Sgt, 14 March 2012 - 08:14 PM.


#37 Child of the Tenth Month

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:15 PM

Too old for the voice? LOL

Yes, Midorikawa is 43 turning 44 this year, but last year he voiced freaking HEERO YUI for SRW Z2-1, and Heero is like, what, a teenager? Age is not an issue.


I never said it was the issue, I said it was one of the possible issues that companies lay off certain VAs .-.

And yes, he could also just be busy.

#38 Rewjeo

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

So, again, all "Marth" having a female voice actor means is that this character won't sound like the Super Smash Bros. Marth. It doesn't necessarily say anything about the character beyond that.

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:19 PM

I never said it was the issue, I said it was one of the possible issues that companies lay off certain VAs .-.

And yes, he could also just be busy.


Well, considering how his work with Marth has been dialogue for a 2 episode OVA and just grunts and small quotes in a game that later got reused, and then having 4 projects already...

YEah, I'm sure a reason (who knows if it's THE reason) is he may be just busy.

#40 Cammy

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 08:24 PM

Well, considering how his work with Marth has been dialogue for a 2 episode OVA and just grunts and small quotes in a game that later got reused, and then having 4 projects already...

YEah, I'm sure a reason (who knows if it's THE reason) is he may be just busy.

Chill. He may be busy, but those were all legit reasons to lay off VAs. How are we supposed to know if he is busy?




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