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#1 Integrity

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 06:59 AM

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- Ratings are assumed to be on Hard Mode.
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+/- ≤1 point extra regarding personality/appearance is encouraged, but no more. If you exercise your bias privileges, please do so explicitly.
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- Every ranking phase ends whenever I get out of bed, between 0700 and 0800 EST. Do the math for your timezone, Brits.
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AVERAGES
Bors: 1.14
Wolt: 2.16
Ward: 2.61
Merlinus: 3.53
Roy: 3.54
Lot: 5.40
Ellen: 5.73
Lugh: 5.98
Chad: 6.42
Clarine: 7.78
Dieck: 7.94
Thany: 8.01
Alan: 8.52
Lance: 8.59
Marcus: 8.77
Rutger: 9.61

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#2 Poseidon Line

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:06 AM

Saul

Third healer.

Staffbots throughout earlygame and is a pretty potent candidate for Aureola (even though I hate getting that tome due to those annoying falling stars, boltings/purges and status staves); the only thing he'll have issues with is his glaringly low LCK and despite of 60% HP growth; he has 15% DEF growth; hence's he's still fragile; but at least that 50% RES growth allows him to laugh at magic-slinging foes.

But anyways; supports... The only thing he'll manage to use is Dorothy; he'll want some extra offenses; although he really needs is CEV; against any pesky crit-flingers and you'll have to settle with slow supports with Igrene and Ellen.

But since getting his S-rank weapon is a pain... and that LCK... :(

6.5

Edited by Frostbite, 19 March 2012 - 07:34 AM.


#3 Levant Fortner

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:17 AM

Saul, Saul, Saul... the personailty's cool, but the horrifyingly low Luck... isn't. Doesn't help that his supports don't help him much (at least the ones that aren't slooooow)...

5.5/10.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:21 AM

The more offensive of the early bishop pair. Decent bases and solid growths in offensive area, and nothing much else. Probably the best light magic user in the game, fow what little it matters. Joins the latest of the three main healers and doesn't have increased staff rank for compensation.

EDIT: -1 for being a tool, so 5/10

Edited by Daigoji Excellen, 19 March 2012 - 07:21 AM.


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:28 AM

Not as cute as Ellen

7 - 1 -> 6/10

Edited by tiff, 19 March 2012 - 07:28 AM.


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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:31 AM

I like his attitude + Healer + I recall dondon saying he is the second best warper in the game (not that I have personal experience over the matter)

= 8.0 with full bias point

Have I ever rated without full bias point?

#7 Aquaman

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:32 AM

Sain as a Healer.
Oh wait, shit luck.
But staves are always nice here.

7/10

#8 Poseidon Line

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:34 AM

Edited my vote; out of recalling something...

#9 Raven

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:46 AM

He's all right. Apart from not having a horse, he has the best Mag growth of all the healers, and best Mag base. Respectable 45% Skill and Spd growths, along with 50% Res make him probably the best healer, and later best Magic fighter once promoted, in the game.

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#10 Integrity

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 07:47 AM

Not as cute as Ellen

7 - 1 -> 6/10


Gonna ask you for a bit more here, friend.

#11 Silvercrow

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:27 AM

He's pretty comparable to Ellen, so his score should be roughly the same. Ultimately their statistical differences are pretty nominal.

6/10.

#12 Onmi

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:27 AM

Saul, well I tend not to get much mileage out of him because I really only run with one or two healers, but statistically Sauls better than Ellen and he's got some nice supports to boot. C in Staves means he can use some of the more interesting ones off the bad without heal/mend spamming, and he's your best choice for Aureola in the End Game.

I say he's a solid 7.5/10 and you could do worse than using him.

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#13 Levant Fortner

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:33 AM

Saul, well I tend not to get much mileage out of him because I really only run with one or two healers, but statistically Sauls better than Ellen and he's got some nice supports to boot. C in Staves means he can use some of the more interesting ones off the bad without heal/mend spamming, and he's your best choice for Aureola in the End Game.

Bold: Please elaborate, because I'm just not seeing it...

#14 Elieson

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:34 AM

Well rounded bishop with great hp growths and a sexy face.

6.375. Why the extra .125¿ Because of those pics above me from Onmi.

#15 Poseidon Line

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:34 AM

Saul, well I tend not to get much mileage out of him because I really only run with one or two healers, but statistically Sauls better than Ellen and he's got some nice supports to boot. C in Staves means he can use some of the more interesting ones off the bad without heal/mend spamming, and he's your best choice for Aureola in the End Game.

I say he's a solid 7.5/10 and you could do worse than using him.

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#16 Onmi

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:37 AM

Bold: Please elaborate, because I'm just not seeing it...


Fire Affinity, Light Affinity, Anima Affinity. Even Ice isn't bad for him for the bonus defense.

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:39 AM

Yes, the support bonuses are indeed tempting but...

You forgot Wind; which is Ellen... which is also slow.

Fire: Dorothy is not likely to be in play; cause she's an Archer.

Light: Yodel is just... eh...

Anima: Cecilia may sound tempting; but IIRC Anima gives +ATK, +HIT, +DEF and +EVA; no CEV.

Ice: Igrene; yes... by the far your best choice (considering she's a decent sniper to begin with; and having Killer Bow is way better than Silver Bow); supporting her is just too slow to begin with.

Edited by Frostbite, 19 March 2012 - 08:39 AM.


#18 Levant Fortner

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:40 AM

Fire Affinity, Light Affinity, Anima Affinity. Even Ice isn't bad for him for the bonus defense.

Well, Saul just stands out to me as a case of "right affinity, but wrong people to take advantage of it", as Dorothy's an archer, Yodel comes late (and neither of them help his main problem), and his other supports are slooooow.

Edited by Metal King Slime, 19 March 2012 - 08:42 AM.


#19 Onmi

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 08:44 AM

Well, Saul just stands out to me as a case of "right affinity, but wrong people to take advantage of it", as Dorothy's an archer, Yodel comes late (and neither of them help his main problem), and his other supports are slooooow.


Oh I wasn't saying that you are likely to support him, only that he has good supports affinity wise, even if he never supports with his partners.

#20 Levant Fortner

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Posted 19 March 2012 - 09:01 AM

Oh I wasn't saying that you are likely to support him, only that he has good supports affinity wise, even if he never supports with his partners.

The problem is the only one who supporting would even be feasible (Dorothy) happens to have an affinity that doesn't mesh too well with Ice.




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