I never knew she could ORKO with Iron Sword a Wyvern Knight.There are many units who consistently fail to ORKO, so don't hold it against Fir just because she can bring many enemy units down to single-digit HP with a mere Iron Sword.
But the issue is were focusing on the 2 and a half chapters where axe users ate common. After Chapter 12x, she's in the shit box. Go read my debate against Inui on Lot vs Fir. She's total shit on the Cavaliers, and it doesn't get significantly better against the Wyvern Knights. Then, we have a little Lance-happy enemies or Swords, which means she's either at equals or at a disadvantage. Her returns after the islands and before promotion is pretty piss poor. It's better than some units like Oujay, but that's why I gave her an actual 4.0 (remember that I did throw in the bias vote, but Inui is the boy to glare at).
Like someone said above, her above average Spd gets a knife once Steel Swords come into play. And she's not always bringing enemies to single digit HP. With WTA, she has 15 Atk, and Fighters sport well over 30 HP. She still will fail a lot to ORKO with Steel Sword too, and her Avoid is cut by 10. Her durability is purely reliant on dodge, and units like Rutger and even Dieck exceed her in that department. Then you have units like Lot and Marcus who can take more than two swings.
The worst issue is that axe units aren't the only units. They're abundant, but you have sticky situations like the Ballistae in Chapter 10, and Shamans and Mercenaries are still around. She obviously has no WTA there. If she wields Steel and the Fighters have Iron Axes or Hand Axes she won't double them with it. With Fir you're playing Russian Roulette with Axe users... And the rest is merely history.
If you've read any of my posts closely, you will know for a fucking fact that she cannot take on enemies alone without playing into RNG hands. Fir is not Mia. Mia is able to do what she does dodging because she doesn't face an unreal number of enemies and Ike is often close to give the +Avo support. And finishing enemies? Come on, even Wendy can finish off Archers, but we aren't crediting her for that.And it's not as if Fir is going to be the only unit on the field - she will be taking some enemies on alone, as well as finishing off units that have already been damaged.
The issue is, outside of boss killing and some minor utility functions, even Rutger isn't always hot stuff. He's gimped by not having a horse, he fails to ORKO a lot of enemies without criticals, and some like Wyvern Lords take 2, he lacks 2 range, he actually has shoddy durability, and his CEV is questionable. He's there primarily as a boss killer first, and as a secondary combat unit. He's awesome no doubt, but he has disadvantages that are pretty up there that are mostly forgiven by killing bosses.Just because Rutger is better when Fir joins, that's no reason to stamp Fir into the dirt. This whole thing should be done on Fir, and Fir alone. Comparing units to other units in their topics really skews the whole thing up.
Again, Fir is far from durable, she is almost constantly 2HKOed barring scrubs, has to work with either Iron or Steel which means not doubling or not ORKOing or both! She isn't "good" until she promotes, and even at that point she's a rough unit.
I'm not saying she completely blows. She has prominent advantages, but other units brag utility at little to no cost or are just good. She's purely a growth unit that takes babying, almost to the extreme, to even reach "par" with your other bad asses. And you gave her a fucking 8!
Edited by Colonel M, 31 March 2012 - 08:35 AM.












