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[Renall]

Pretty similar to Soren with most of his same problems, but joins later. Can be salvaged with a promotion to staffbotting, just like he can. Uses better magic than Soren, so there's that I guess, albeit without Adept.

6/10

[Snapdragon]

Awww, man. I missed Mia and I actually had strong opinions on her.

Anyhow, Ilyana's like a inferior version of Soren, with much of the same problems. She's got more strength, but he has higher high magic/speed each of which makes up for it. He also has a better affinity and adept. Since I gave him a 5 she can have a 4 -.5 bias since I think she's overrated. So....

3.5

[Esaka]

Kawai no desu :3

Also, she isn't terrible by any means, better magic options then Soren.

6.5 + 1 bias

[Zeem]

Revised my vote after a few good points about Ilyana. (I should probably play FE9 again, since it's been a while. )

[Florina Stark]

Ilyana, that mage with only one characterization aspect. Being hungry.

Pros:
Ok base level.
Good strength growth.
Innate Shade.

Cons:
Speed isnt as good as Soren's.
Squishier than Soren (wow).


Really, im not a fan. Shes actually decent in this game though. Her growths arent as nice as Soren's. In my runs, at least, hes got a level lead on her. (by one or two levels...) Her strength growth means she wont get weighed down by tomes which is nice. But it may take a while before shes actually doubling anything. I dunno, i prefer Soren (big time) over her. She can be used along side him for some extra magic murder though. I find her character to be super boring though. Like omg.

6/10. 5/10 bias because i like Soren loads better and like, she bores me.

[Gone2Ground]

USES REXBOLT FRAK YEAH 10/10
Inferior growths to Soren, especially that SPD drop, but the high STR and Thunder-lovin' makes it easy to forgive. I almost always go for her over Soren, just because...well...REXBOLT FRAK YEAH.
Also, she's cute and has a personality that hasn't been linked to her appearance for all time (Soren: Pretty Emotionless Kid With Hidden Depths).
In case you haven't picked up on it yet, I'm not a Soren person.
7/10 with a +1 bias to 8/10

[The_Purple_Knight]

3/10 Nice strength growth , acess to thunder magic ,and a decent magic growth . However she has the same short comings as Soren terrible durability , and a rough start . She also has awful speed that never really gets good . If anyone's over rated it's her . I guess if Soren was a hot chick in a short skirt he would be considered the greatest Mage in fire emblem history because he's clearly better then her . -1 bias she's even more annoying the Soren .

Edited by The_Purple_Knight, 05 April 2012 - 03:28 PM.

[Merry Sioux]

30% speed? On a unit with bad mobility and durability? Oh Hell naw

2.5/10

Edited by Mage Lord, 05 April 2012 - 03:41 PM.

[RNG Princess]

I agree with Florina Ilyana uses good magic and she has a decent base level ^^' but she's a little frail with a semi rough start. 7.5/10 +1 bias o3o

Edited by Queen_Emelina, 05 April 2012 - 05:17 PM.

[Narga_Rocks]

30% speed? On a unit with bad mobility and durability? Oh Hell naw

2.5/10

PKL,

Is this really enough justification for a number so far below the average rating?

[Lord Raven]

3.5/10

Ilyana dies a lot, is frail, has bad spd, and in general is very outclassed, has poor move and is generally redundant. There's not much reason to really use her.

[Tyrant Sage]

Ilyana is like Soren but not content to simply be the same as him for a title of "really shitty unit", Ilyana outdoes him in that regard and manages to be even worse with terribad speed.

2/10

[Sangyul]

Ilyana is one unit that I actually missed the very first time I played PoR (the first time I ever played an FE game). Nowadays, I always recruit her and I always use her. However, for a unit that I enjoy using, I'm going to be very harsh on her.

Ilyana shows up in chapter 8, at level 6, which is perhaps not too far off from what Soren's level would be if we are using him as well. Her base stats are not exactly the best. 1 strength and 9 speed, when she starts off with Thunder and Elthunder, isn't really doing her any favors. She's better off using wind so she can take advantage of her 9 speed. Her durability will never truly "be good". Her strength will not catch up pre-promotion for her to be able to use her heavy thunder tomes without AS loss. Her magic and resistance are good, but so are Soren's! Unlike Lugh and Lilina, Ilyana doesn't even have the advantage of "higher magic in exchange for speed" like Lilina does. She has ... less magic at the same level; her magic growth is 10% lower; and her speed isn't as good as his either. Her bases aren't superior to his either. She doesn't even come first. Ilyana really has nothing going for her. Poor bases. Poor speed growth. Magic growth that's inferior to the early-joining mage's magic growth. Her strength won't catch up in time for her to use her thunder tomes with no AS loss. She has shade, but the description for Shade is "makes user less likely to be attacked by the enemy." Well ... how much less likely? What's it determined by? So I can't just throw her into a bunch of enemies and expect her to be ignored, guaranteed, in favor of other units in range?

As much as I enjoy using Ilyana, she requires a LOT of work to be anywhere near good ... like a speed band and rigged level-ups to get speed on random mode. If you really hate Soren or just want a second mage around, she can do what he does - chip or finish off weakened enemies. Honestly, you're better off dumping them both for Tormod once you get him.

3/10

Edit: Forgot to mention that Ilyana's probably being recruited near the end of chapter 8, unless Ike and whoever is assisting him in blocking the left part of the map are supremely overpowered and just killing anything that attacks them. At most, she'll hit something once or finish it off. So she doesn't even start contributing until chapter 9. At least she has forced deployment ... I think.

Edited by Jihyun, 05 April 2012 - 06:04 PM.

[Florina Stark]

Honestly, you're better off dumping them both for Tormod once you get him.

To be fair, Tormod comes with his own problems. Big ones. But we will cross that bridge...

[Lord Raven]

Tormod's problems are off set by his pure utility.

[Sangyul]

To be fair, Tormod comes with his own problems. Big ones. But we will cross that bridge...

Oh, I know Tormod has his problems as well. I have no intentions to go easy on him either. I just feel that his underleveledness is offset by the BEXP situation during his join time, plus that extra 2 move is nice. But ... this is not the time to talk about Tormod.

[Narga_Rocks]

Ilyana is like Soren but not content to simply be the same as him for a title of "really shitty unit", Ilyana outdoes him in that regard and manages to be even worse with terribad speed.

2/10

PKL,

Is this really enough justification for a number so far below the average rating?

I repeat my objection, only for this one it is stronger because all he does is say she's bad with bad speed.

[Tyrant Sage]

Who cares if it's below the average? It's my opinion and the point of this thread is to post our ratings of characters based on our opinions.

I wish you'd just say you're mad because I'm rating one of your favorite characters low. It'd be a lot more honest of you.

[Snowy_One]

Ilyana also has an advantage over Soren in STR. In the mid and later game it won't matter. He will get 1 STR (all he needs for FT) and his higher SPD growth and Adept will carry him to be definitivly better, but before that happens, Ilyana will have an edge (even if minor). Besides, even if Soren does end up better, Ilyana is hardly a waste of resources. More siege tomes and staffs are always welcome after all. Plus, while Ilyana's supports may not be really good, unless Stefan is played Soren can't even manage to get two supporters (and even then this is assuming Ike supports him. Not a bad assumption by far, but if he doesn't for any reason, Soren doesn't contribute at all support wise. Soren may be better 'overall', but I prefer the added support flexibility and better ease of use early-game that Ilyana has.

Plus, this is a rating topic that's open to the public. A lot of people are going to give really high/low ratings for characters based on personal experience. Don't be shocked/worry about it.

[Sangyul]

Ilyana also has an advantage over Soren in STR. In the mid and later game it won't matter. He will get 1 STR (all he needs for FT) and his higher SPD growth and Adept will carry him to be definitivly better, but before that happens, Ilyana will have an edge (even if minor).

If we're assuming fixed mode, then her strength will only go up every 4 levels. Her base strength is 1. She starts off with thunder tomes. Her AS situation isn't - that - much better than Soren's. Sure, she can use heavier tomes faster and will not lose speed from lighter tomes (light wind). She also has worse speed than he does. Before she promotes, her slight strength advantages probably won't mean much.