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#1 SPSEliwoodGabriel

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 11:26 AM

Er, yeah, I thought I'll show you guys my old attempts to spriting. They were planned to be in my little pet hack project for FE7, but... I'm having second thoughts.

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My very first attempt to a custom-ish sprite, this is Lady Sora Del Frate, an Etrurian Cleric and one of the heiress of House Del Frate. She's supposed to replace Serra.

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The second version of Lady Sora and closer to my image of her.
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Yeah, I'm putting myself in the hack, as Canas' replacement. Lady Mellie Del Frate is actually older than Sora by a few years, but looks younger than her sisters. (Note- I don't have any sisters in real life) This is me trying to edit the hell outta her. I'm planing on modifying this sprite even further to get closer to my looks.

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And this is my attempt on making an albino archsage!Eliwood. I do feel like I failed at the attempt, but I'm not giving up- I have new ideas for him!

So, uh, how do they look? Any suggestions for future sprites?

#2 deranger

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:15 PM

Not a bad first post, Archsage Eli's colours appear to me to be the only glaring errors. His outline/darker colors should actually be darker.
The ladies look good to me though.

#3 Child of the Tenth Month

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

Your splices are okay; just clean up your lines and they'll look a lot better.

#4 Furetchen

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 06:20 PM

Can Sorakh28 sprite? Yes, enough to show promise.

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Posted 05 April 2012 - 07:36 PM

It's about average with the majority of spriters here, so...yeah, I suppose.

#6 SPSEliwoodGabriel

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:00 PM

Alright, so! I have a sprite modification in progress I'd like you guys to critique.

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So, is it okay? Does the necklace look awkward? (My guess is that it is.) What would you suggest for this sprite to look better? Also, I'm looking for ideas on how to modify the hair, any suggestions?
Thanks ahead!

#7 Hamlet

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 01:09 PM

http://gyazo.com/faf...0aee79deb12ef71

Red: Random bits of skin color in the clothes.

Green: Bad under-chin shading. There's too much of the 4th skin shade.

Also, you have a lot of awkward skin tones all over. I think you have too many. Make sure you're using five.
The neck is a bit too long and skinny. Lower the head a pixel or two and widen the neck a pixel or two.
The necklace looks good, but it's off-angle with the head and body.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 02:28 PM

Her hand is, like, "Gosh, this new necklace is really cutting off my air flow." *wiggles choker around*

#9 SPSEliwoodGabriel

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 04:24 PM

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I think I got the clothes problem done, and some none-matching shading issues, maybe... I couldn't exactly figure out the neck problem, but I had an inkling that it was that gaudy necklace with that awkward stance that didn't work. I thought maybe this might work, unless someone has better necklaces ideas.

And I still don't know what to do with the under-chin shadow now that I modified the necklace..

#10 Hamlet

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 04:39 PM

Reference other chin shading. The fourth shade should just be where the head meets the neck and a few other pixels going south. The second shade should be the most prevalent shade.

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 05:58 PM

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There're so many things wrong with this mug that I don't even know where to begin.
...so I just slapped it around in PdN for a few minutes to save me the trouble of having to actually critique it.

#12 Dr.Sholes

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Posted 08 April 2012 - 06:23 PM

All I can say on it is reference that and fix the shading on the hair near the ear.

#13 SPSEliwoodGabriel

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:01 PM

Before I go on that sprite again, I just want to show you my current work on Mellie 2.0. It's nowhere close in being done- in fact, I don't have any coloring job done. If it looks shoddy, it's supposed to be- this is merely me brainstorming and isn't even close to even, say, 30% of what I'd like to be the final image?

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The image is big on purpose. Also, if someone can suggest on something to change the top- not the sleeves, the sleeves intend to stay- and the necklace, please tell me in advance, and yes, I know about the unused bangs peeking out of the forehead. I just want to make sure the ears and everything else looks good before I continue with the job. (Also, you can guess which characters I'm currently using to make Mellie 2.0). Also, tips for the hair- should I modify the white part by coloring it, or by copy-pasting parts of the hair and lining it up with her cheeks?
So yeah, I'm not asking for coloring or anything like that- I just want to know if, by far, it looks right position-wise.

#14 deranger

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:56 PM

Your splicing of the hair might've made the ear too low. If you think about glasses, the top of where the ear's attached to the head should line up with the middle of the eye.

#15 SPSEliwoodGabriel

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 05:59 PM

That's what I thought myself. Should I use the ear from Mellie 1.0, since that seemed a little more accurate?

#16 deranger

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:09 PM

I'd even go a little higher than that.

#17 SPSEliwoodGabriel

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 06:44 PM

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Revision two, with actual, proper colors... The things I can see that I've got wrong-

1- The left ear has two earlobes. I do intend to cover the second one with an earring.
2- I have no idea with the right ear. Either I find a way to hid it, or I take the right ear of someone.
3- Are her eyebrows visible enough? The bandanna's hiding them, I think.
4- I see lots of technicality problems with her hair shading... that spot right far from the left ear, that I noticed the most. If anyone can please give me pointers on how to fix that, it would be AWESOME.
5- Also you can help with the empty faces/awkward shading on her face, please.
6- Tips on making her clothes not look like a direct rip of Lalum's? I do love the sleeves, but changing her top would be great... and I wonder about her necklace, too. Should I modify so they look more like strings of pearls for diversity?

Edited by SPSEliwoodGabriel, 09 April 2012 - 06:50 PM.


#18 Jubby

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:51 PM

I don't have time to actually look at it in depth or make suggestions on the other stuff atm (I may edit some in tomorrow) but I like the new hair color a lot better than the old one XD

#19 deranger

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Posted 09 April 2012 - 07:57 PM

1- reference any Sacaen for earings.
4- the head band should cast some shadow directly below it. (a little bit of the darker skin tone, don't spam light skin tone. Again, references are your friend)
And the little big of light brown hair right next to her right eye (left from OPV) seems out of place.

#20 SPSEliwoodGabriel

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 12:25 PM

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Update 3 of Mellie 2.0... She's actually looking great. I share your sentiment, Jubby- this hair color is much more beautiful. Would you believe me if I took it from a random village's sprite? It's also much more accurate to my actual hair color. Also, for those curious, I used prototype!Lute's hair for her.

I know there's still errors around, and I'm still conflicted with that necklace (I'm seriously considering changing them to pearls or making a big choker), but overall, I'm loving this look more than 1.0. She seems to look a little more mature than 1.0 while still looking rather young. And yes, she's the brightest shaman walking around Elibe. (I am, in fact, thinking of making a custom shaman sprite sheet just for her. Or at least the design.)

But again, all critiques accepted!




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