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#101 arvilino

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 08:56 AM

I don't know about most people, but Ranger would need at least 2 movement to beat out the 1-2 range that hero offers, imo

Obviously GK vs. Pally is entirely different though.


The Short Bow is 1-2 so Rangers wouldn't need the movement boost.

#102 Refa

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 11:42 AM

The Short Bow is 1-2 so Rangers wouldn't need the movement boost.


Then the problem is that it obseletes Hero, at least for Gerik.

Edited by Refa, 15 May 2012 - 11:42 AM.


#103 Serious Bananas

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 01:12 PM

Make Short Bows Archer/Sniper exclusive? And Axes do have a natural power bonus.

#104 Serious Bananas

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 01:13 PM

Ignore this

Edited by Serious Bananas, 15 May 2012 - 05:02 PM.


#105 Refa

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Posted 15 May 2012 - 02:03 PM

Then Rangers would need the movement boost.

#106 CrashGordon94

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:17 AM

Either my old, obsolete draft pissed him off genuinely that much or he's trying to get himself "cred" by attacking me.


If you want your faith in humanity raised, look at Crash's response. I don't have much to add about balancing, though. I want to see the current changes implemented before commenting further.

And thank you Eclipse, that means a lot to me.

I'll comment on real suggestions soon. I would like to mention that I'm still open for suggestions but it's likely the first patch will be rather wonky, I myself am not sure how certain things will turn out.

Edited by CrashGordon94, 05 June 2012 - 03:19 AM.


#107 Sangyul

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:19 AM

If you want your faith in humanity raised, look at Crash's response. I don't have much to add about balancing, though. I want to see the current changes implemented before commenting further.


Yeah, I got ninja'd by Crash and Green while I was typing up my response. ^^;

#108 Aquaman

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:44 AM

SUggestions

Remove Super Trainee Routes.

Have Ewan become able to go Monk.
Have Amelia able to go Wyvern/Peg
Have ROss able to go..................Merc?

Also, buff Dark Magic, and make GLiepner have a spd/def boost, and wiegh lighter.

Also, buff Neimi and remove Sniper!Neimi.

#109 Zeem

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 03:46 AM

I'm gonna hop on the suggestions.

Hmm...lower Gilliam's SPD, but give him an axereaver?

#110 Child of the Tenth Month

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:08 AM

Crash responded to someone maturely OMG <3

Crash I am like srs proud of you c:

#111 Rothene

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 07:39 AM

Hmm...instead of redoing the stats of Light tomes, perhaps you can boost their crit? Like say add 5 crit to the E~D ranked ones, 10 crit to the C~B ones and Awesome 15 additional crits to A~S ones(Which might be too much...). Would make them able to hit low res enemies very hard like a nuke not too rarely, and maybe out damage anima if they crit very often while Anima remains the more stable and likelier to double option.

I've always been fond of the idea of same ends different means approach to 'diversify' weapons.

#112 Anouleth

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:00 AM

I wouldn't say that's ironic, because when Crash first posted this idea, it was pretty bad, so while the comments weren't warranted, they had a reason to be there but Bladehero quoted me wrong, how do you do that, there's a quote button right there

Really? Because there aren't really that many changes to Crash's original ideas. In fact, the ideas that Integrity and Raymond hated oh so much are all still there, like infinite use dragonstones and nerfing Seth. Or giving Ewan and Amelia better bases.

but now that people have offered ideas, and Crash has accepted them, this actually looks better. I dunno if I'd call it decent; I'd have to play it to know for sure, but it looks better, and doesn't deserve the flak it got when it was first posted. At least NOW it doesn't. So I dunno why Bladehero's rehashing all of what was said when this was started. Makes no sense to me.

Which ideas are these? Largely, the hack still seems to be a case of mainly, crashgordon taking FE8 and taking out minor stuff just because it bugs him plus some fairly obvious balance fixes. Which is fine, I guess. It's his hack, he can do what he likes, even if I don't think it's a good idea or is a waste of time.

#113 Integrity

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 11:14 AM

Really? Because there aren't really that many changes to Crash's original ideas. In fact, the ideas that Integrity and Raymond hated oh so much are all still there, like infinite use dragonstones and nerfing Seth. Or giving Ewan and Amelia better bases.


Hey, hey, I disagreed with the *way* he was going about Seth and Ewan/Amelia. He hadn't provided any numbers (except for Seth's growths, which I still think is/was a shit idea EDIT: I don't know if new numbers are floating around, but it was something to the tune of nerfed bases AND ~10% growths in everything /EDIT) and from the way he put it it sounded like he was buffing Ewan and Amelia's base stats to Tier 1 levels while retaining massive XP gain and extra levels and new hugely buffed growths which sounded suspect. I never said that Ewan/Amelia didn't need buffing and that Seth didn't need nerfing.

I maintain that having one infinite Dragonstone is bad, too, but I'll pull back the ferocity of my original comments on it.

Edited by Integrity, 05 June 2012 - 11:15 AM.


#114 Red Fox of Fire

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 08:59 PM

What is wrong with you people in ROM Hacking? This is the second time in less than a week I've had to come in and put a stop to a fight. I hope I'm not being too lenient when I let this topic stay open if it gets back on topic immediately. Any more of this back and forth crap will receive warnings. I don't care which side it comes from.

#115 Tangerine

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:24 PM

Just start handing out suspensions if it happens again, modslaves. And you're one warn away from being banned for good this time, Klok! If I were you I'd do my best to avoid making a fool of yourself, at least until some of your warns expire :P.

You know how they say that if you don't study in summer, you forget a chunk of what you learned in school that year?

http://serenesforest...dpost&p=1972426

Don't forget my mini-course on how to conduct yourself on a forum! Not everything in the post applies to this situation, but the ending recap sure is helpful to remember! It's not that tough, I have faith in you kiddos.

Edited by Tangerine, 05 June 2012 - 09:28 PM.


#116 Klok

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 09:47 PM

Just start handing out suspensions if it happens again, modslaves. And you're one warn away from being banned for good this time, Klok! If I were you I'd do my best to avoid making a fool of yourself, at least until some of your warns expire :P.

Stupid accidental porn posts...! Right, I'll be good now.

The reasons for Klok's recent attitude shift become apparent!

#117 CrashGordon94

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 04:09 AM

What is wrong with you people in ROM Hacking? This is the second time in less than a week I've had to come in and put a stop to a fight. I hope I'm not being too lenient when I let this topic stay open if it gets back on topic immediately. Any more of this back and forth crap will receive warnings. I don't care which side it comes from.

Sorry to grovel but please don't close this! :sob:

Even if I've fallen horribly behind, I really do want to try to make something of this patch eventually...




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