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[Mar-Mar]

It's more likely simpler than you think... Eliwood has two other options (three if you realize there's a generic option) other than Ninian, now doesn't he..?

That's right! EliwoodxNinian is non-canon, and if you DID pair Eliwood with Ninian then Roy could be hiding wings underneath his cape.

[L95]

But Ninian doesn't even have wings herself.

Or did I miss the sarcasm... :p

[Onestep]

It's more likely simpler than you think... Eliwood has two other options (three if you realize there's a generic option) other than Ninian, now doesn't he..?

True enough. It's odd. The game and the novel pretty much beat you over the head with the fact that you should be shipping Eliwood and Ninian together. Yet in 6, Marcus tells a story about Eliwood collecting an Illian flower for his wife, which heavily implies that he married Fiora. I'll admit that generic is always an option, but it seems a bit of a cop-out in truth.

[Sangyul]

True enough. It's odd. The game and the novel pretty much beat you over the head with the fact that you should be shipping Eliwood and Ninian together. Yet in 6, Marcus tells a story about Eliwood collecting an Illian flower for his wife, which heavily implies that he married Fiora. I'll admit that generic is always an option, but it seems a bit of a cop-out in truth.

Actually, Ninian is also from Ilia. In her support conversation with Florina, she says that she was born in Ilia. So the flower thing also implies that Ninian can be his wife.

[cheetah7071]

I think the only manakete we have a confirmed age for is Tiki (who we have confirmed in both of her appearances). I always assumed that manaketes age roughly 100 times slower than humans (since Tiki looks ~10 when she's 1000, and ~30 when she's 3000). Half-manaketes are of course a weird case with no good information.

Edited by cheetah7071, 08 August 2012 - 04:40 PM.

[Othin]

Nono describes herself as about 1000, as well. Ninian was born around the same time as the Scouring, so she's also about 1000, but she's half-dragon instead of full.

[L95]

If you count Ninan and Nils, the both of them are just over 1000, and Myrrh was 1200... roughly, IIRC.

[Levaine]

I always figured it the rate of ageing was different for each half-manakete. I mean, if you think about the whole science aspect of it, you never really get a perfect 50-50 split when it comes to inheritance, right?

So Sophia got the really-slow-ageing but not the ability to transform, and Nn got the ability to transform but ended up with a slightly more normal growth rate. She still probably ages slower then everyone else--in all honesty, she doesn't look like she's the same age as the other children characters--but not nearly as much as Sophia.

Of course, that doesn't solve the "when does the ageing slow down" question at all.

Edited by Levaine, 08 August 2012 - 06:04 PM.

[Onestep]

I always figured it the rate of ageing was different for each half-manakete. I mean, if you think about the whole science aspect of it, you never really get a perfect 50-50 split when it comes to inheritance, right?

So Sophia got the really-slow-ageing but not the ability to transform, and Nn got the ability to transform but ended up with a slightly more normal growth. She still probably ages slower then everyone else--in all honesty, she doesn't look like she's the same age as the other children characters--but not nearly as much as Sophia.

Of course, that doesn't solve the "when does the ageing slow down" question at all.

The main problem for actually answering this question is the incredibly small group we have to compare. There's no more than four half-manakete's in the entire series, and only two potential quarter-manaketes, Mark (With Nn as the mother) and Roy (if you think Ninian is Roy's mother).

Presumably, Ninian and Nils are the same age, more or less, and yet Nils looks a fair bit younger than Ninian. Nn seems to age relatively fast in comparison, looking to be about the same age as Nils, despite being less than 1/20th of his age. And then there's Sofia, who looks to be the same age as Ninian, despite being much, much younger.

The only theory I can suggest is that different subspecies of manakete (fire, ice, divine etc etc) grant different traits to half-manaketes. Presuming that Nono is a Divine Dragon, and that Sofia's manakete parent was also a Divine Dragon, then it would appear that half-manaketes of Divine Dragon ancestry age significantly faster than half-manaketes from an Ice Dragon.

Edited by Onestep, 08 August 2012 - 06:13 PM.

[Levaine]

The main problem for actually answering this question is the incredibly small group we have to compare. There's no more than four half-manakete's in the entire series, and only two potential quarter-manaketes, Mark (With Nn as the mother) and Roy (if you think Ninian is Roy's mother).

I think you're right about needing more examples to actually figure out the answer, but I don't think we can use Roy and Mark as examples, since we have that pesky canon issue to deal with.

The only theory I can suggest is that different subspecies of manakete (fire, ice, divine etc etc) grant different traits to half-manaketes. Presuming that Nono is a Divine Dragon, and that Sofia's manakete parent was also a Divine Dragon, then it would appear that half-manaketes of Divine Dragon ancestry age significantly faster than half-manaketes from an Ice Dragon.

I agree with this bit, too--it makes sense that different kinds of dragons would pass on different things to their kids. But I still think that there's gonna be some variation between each half-manakete.

On a slightly different subject, does the game actually tell us what kind of dragon Nono is, or is she just labeled as a generic manakete?

[Onestep]

I think you're right about needing more examples to actually figure out the answer, but I don't think we can use Roy and Mark as examples, since we have that pesky canon issue to deal with.

Well, we CAN use Quarter-manakete Mark as an example, due to knowing for sure that it's possible for MU to father her (assuming he doesn't marry someone else, of course). Just like we can use half-manakete Mark as an example, if MU married Nono or Tiki. But it's a bad example. Why? Because MU isn't a normal human. He's a bearer of Holy Blood, which might explain why a quarter-manakete possesses the same powers as a half-manakete. And Holy Blood is a whole other kettle of confusing genetics.

We can't use Roy as an example because we don't know for sure that Ninian is his mother.

Edited by Onestep, 08 August 2012 - 06:54 PM.

[Levaine]

Holy Blood is a whole other kettle of confusing genetics.

There's an understatement if I've ever heard one. Ugh, even thinking about trying to figure out the Holy Blood/Manakete combo gives me a headache. Probably doesn't help that I've never played FE 4 or 5.

Edited by Levaine, 08 August 2012 - 07:17 PM.

[shadowofchaos]

Will somebody please do the full support for MU and Olivia?

早速翻訳する必要はない。

The game's English release date isn't even definite yet. It won't kill you to wait until a translator is willing to use up their spare time translating it for you.

Fine, here. Have a freaking C Support.

As always, there might be "creative liberties". Literal translation sometimes doesn't work well.

Spoiler - Male MU x Olivia C Support

Olivia: I guess this is all of it. ▼
Two hundred and fifty...
I've still got a long way to go... ▼

MU: Olivia, what are you doing? ▼

Olivia: Waaah! ▼

MU: I-I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to startle you. ▼

Olivia: Oh, it's you, MU.
You really got me there. ▼

MU: Huh? What do you have there that
you're clinging to so tightly? ▼

Olivia: Umm, this...
This is all of the money I've been saving. ▼

MU: Your secret stash? ▼

Olivia: P-please don't call it that! ▼
It makes it sound like I'm stingy
with money. That's embarrassing!! ▼

MU: Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry!
Not a stash, but your life savings! ▼
I think that it's admirable that
you put so much heart into your savings. ▼

Olivia: Ummm... thank you. ▼
I'm happy to be complemented
by you, MU. ▼

MU: R-really? It makes feel a bit
embarrassed if you point it out like that. ▼

Olivia: Well then, it's my turn to cook
for today, so I'll be taking my leave... ▼
It was fun being able to talk with you today. ▼

MU: Okay. Be careful on your way back... wait.
Olivia! Money from your stash is dropping! ▼

Olivia: I told you not to call it that~! ▼
It's embarrassing to make me sound
so stingy with money! ▼

MU: Yes yes, I get it! Now hurry and catch them!
Oh! One got caught by the wind and is flying away! ▼

Olivia: Ah! W-wait up, please! ▼

If anyone has a better English translation for へそくり, then be my guest.

Edited by shadowofchaos, 04 October 2012 - 09:01 AM.

[four loose screws]

Alright, everyone! In the midst of confusion and deep conversation over the genetics of manaketes, I bring comic relief in the form of Krom and Vake! Gotta love these two fools together. XD

Decided to go literal in many places with this one. If anything sounds a little awkward, then whatever.

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake)

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake C)

Krom: Okay, everyone! From this point on, we will do one-on-one practice battles!

Vake: Alright! I will have a match with you, Krom!

Krom: Vake... At this time, you should only be like a companion...

Vake: You and I are eternal rivals! It is our destiny to continue our eternal battle! Although I surely am a little tired.

Krom: If that's the case, did we change our companionship?

Vake: Wait! Don't do something like avoid me!

Krom: ...I do not have an intention of running from anyone. Weren't you the one who said you were tired?

Vake: Hey, for the purpose of relieving the tension, how about we bet all of our money on hand?

Krom: I don't mind relieving the tension with betting money.

Vake: Yeah... well then, how about this one? The one who loses the battle has to hit Fredrick on the head!

Krom... Really? If Fredrick saw something like that, wouldn't he get angry and sort of scary?

Vake: Heh, you scared?

Krom: Don't be ridiculous. I accept your challenge. ...But I absolutely will not lose.

Vake: I see. So this means that fighting is best for this tension...

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake B)

Vake: Let's have a match, Krom!

Krom: A match is okay, but with one condition.

Vake: A condition? Well, isn't that an unusual thing for you to say!?

Krom: After the practice battle the other day, I was scolded harshly by Liz. She said that because the battle between us became too intense and dangerous, we should have a battle that won't be dangerous.

Vake: Yeah... That match the other day was very intense for both of us. But, well, what in the world is a non-dangerous battle?

Krom: I know, right... What about flipping coins and calling the side it lands on?

Vake: That sort of match is only decided by luck and won't give us a conclusion. Yeah... hmm... How about a cooking match? Both battle and cooking need skill to compete with, right?

Krom: Cooking? I don't have much experience...

Vake: Oh, is that so? That's no good. You'd have a disadvantage. You'll lose the cooking showdown unconditionally. That's like running away.

Krom: ...Don't say that. Fine, making food is fine. I kind of know a recipe. I can't lose to you!

Vake: Yeah. All right, that won't happen!

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake A)

Krom: Let's have a match, Vake.

Vake: What are you saying, my win was decided already, right?

Krom: What? When did I lose to you?

Vake: The other day's cooking showdown! It's clear that my side was more delicious!

Krom: Geh... But when you ate my cooking, you toppled over and fainted, didn't you? Admit that the results turned in my favor.

Vake: As if! I ate something ridiculous then!!

Krom: It's not like you said the one who makes the most delicious food would win.

Vake: You know... Jeez, you really hate to lose, don't you?

Krom: Don't all people say that? It's the same for you.

Vake: Ha ha, I agree. ...I knew you and I need to agree on a winner.

Krom: I agree... Want to start, Vake?

Vake: Yeah! We'll settle this today for sure!

Edited by four loose screws, 10 August 2012 - 10:31 AM.

[Sangyul]

Alright, everyone! In the midst of confusion and deep conversation over the genetics of manaketes, I bring comic relief in the form of Krom and Vake! Gotta love these two fools together. XD

Decided to go literal in many places with this one. If anything sounds a little awkward, then whatever.

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake)

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake C)

Krom: Okay, everyone! From this point on, we will do one-on-one practice battles!

Vake: Alright! I will have a match with you, Krom!

Krom: Vake... At this time, you should only be like a companion...

Vake: You and I are eternal rivals! It is our destiny to continue our eternal battle! Although I surely am a little tired.

Krom: If that's the case, did we change our companionship?

Vake: Wait! Don't do something like avoid me!

Krom: ...I do not have an intention of running from anyone. Weren't you the one who said you were tired?

Vake: Hey, for the purpose of relieving the tension, how about we bet all of our money on hand?

Krom: I don't mind relieving the tension with betting money.

Vake: Yeah... well then, how about this one? The one who loses the battle has to hit Fredrick on the head!

Krom... Really? If Fredrick saw something like that, wouldn't he get angry and sort of scary?

Vake: Heh, you scared?

Krom: Don't be ridiculous. I accept your challenge. ...But I absolutely will not lose.

Vake: I see. So this means that fighting is best for this tension...

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake B)

Vake: Let's have a match, Krom!

Krom: A match is okay, but with one condition.

Vake: A condition? Well, isn't that an unusual thing for you to say!?

Krom: After the practice battle the other day, I was scolded harshly by Liz. She said that because the battle between us became too intense and dangerous, we should have a battle that won't be dangerous.

Vake: Yeah... That match the other day was very intense for both of us. But, well, what in the world is a non-dangerous battle?

Krom: I know, right... What about flipping coins and calling the side it lands on?

Vake: That sort of match is only decided by luck and won't give us a conclusion. Yeah... hmm... How about a cooking match? Both battle and cooking need skill to compete with, right?

Krom: Cooking? I don't have much experience...

Vake: Oh, is that so? That's no good. You'd have a disadvantage. You'll lose the cooking showdown unconditionally. That's like running away.

Krom: ...Don't say that. Fine, making food is fine. I kind of know a recipe. I can't lose to you!

Vake: Yeah. All right, that won't happen!

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake A)

Krom: Let's have a match, Vake.

Vake: What are you saying, my win was decided already, right?

Krom: What? When did I lose to you?

Vake: The other day's cooking showdown! It's clear that my side was more delicious!

Krom: Geh... But when you ate my cooking, you toppled over and fainted, didn't you? Admit that the results turned in my favor.

Vake: As if! I ate something ridiculous then!!

Krom: it's not like you said the one who makes the most delicious food would win.

Vake: You know... Jeez, you really hate to lose, don't you?

Krom: Don't all people say that? It's the same for you.

Vake: Ha ha, I agree. ...I knew you and I need to agree on a winner.

Krom: I agree... Want to start, Vake?

Vake: Yeah! We'll settle this today for sure!

They are like Horace and Shin or something ... X_x

[Enaeius]

Here's yet another conversation between two extremes; this time it's the aristocrat and the bumpkin. Mariabel x Donny, everyone!

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny C

Mariabel: Hold on a minute, what is this? To think that someone put their luggage here!

Donny: Ah! I, Ah'm sorry! That, That's my luggage.

Mariabel: Oh, Mr. Donny. Please do be careful. This passage is used for emergencies.

Donny: I, A see. I'm really sorry. I, Ah'm just a bumpkin, so I don't understand thin's like that at all.

Mariabel: Is that so... I understand. I shall be teaching you several things from now on.

Donny: Eh...?

Mariabel: Let us first start by taking an in-depth look at the laws and conventions of Iris. I will lend you this book so please memorize it from start to finish.

Donny: T, that's a really thick book...

Mariabel: This is a book that details all the laws of Iris. As such, this thickness is to be expected.

Donny: Umm... Ah have to remember all of it?

Mariabel: That's right. Is there some sort of problem with that? Diligence is the most important virtue to have. For the sake of your development and growth, do try to learn it properly. Ah, this book is an important gift that my father has given me so please use it with the utmost care.

Donny: I, Ah understand.

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny B

Mariabel: Mr. Donny. Have you made any progress with the book?

Donny: Ah, yeah. Ah've memorized the book you lent me.

Mariabel: That's quite a lie. Even I have yet to completely memorize it.

Donny: Ah really did. I, Ah'm pretty good at rememberin' stuff.

Mariabel: Very well, then do try to answer some questions about it. For starters, let's see... In the first chapter, the third clause of the fourth paragraph. What is the punishment for...

Donny: In that case... it's hard labour for no less than a year and no more than ten.

Mariabel: That, that's absolutely correct... Did you really memorize all of it?

Donny: Yup. Ah spent all my free time tryin' ta study this book.

Mariabel: All of your free time...?

Donny: Miss Mariabel's been kind enough ta lend someone like me such an important book. So ah hafta do my part too.

Mariabel: Is that so... I honestly never thought you'd handle this matter with such earnestness. I've changed my mind. I shall do my utmost in order to make sure that you grow into a fine gentleman, Mr. Donny.

Donny: Huh... A, a gentleman? Somethin' like that is a little...?

Mariabel: Alright, let's do our best!

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny A

Mariabel: Now, firmly support my lower back. One step with your right leg, then two with your left. Ah, Ow!

Donny: S, sorry! Ah've gone and stepped on your foot again...

Mariabel: It would seem that your memory is not very good with things other than studying.

Donny: Ah know the movements. But whenever I try dancing with Miss Mariabel, Ah just get all nervous...

Mariabel: C, could you please not concern yourself with such weird nerves? ... All of a sudden, I'm getting nervous too.

Donny: Ain't no way that'd be true. You can' be embarrassed 'bout a guy like me. Ah mean, Miss Mariabel is so pretty and beautiful and gorgeous after all.

Mariabel: ... All of them have the exact same meaning, you know.

Donny: Ah, even gettin' praised by someone like me must be a real nuisance to ya...

Mariabel: That is most certainly not the case. In my opinion, you are a very hardworking and respectable person.

Donny: R, really?

Mariabel: Yes. Well, now that we have both complimented one another, shall we continue the dance?

Donny: ...Oh, it were a joke.

Mariabel: No, it wasn't. However, for some reason, I'm no longer nervous.

Donny: Ah, now that ya mention it, me too...

Mariabel: Saying what is on your mind really is quite important.

Donny: Yeah. tha's somethin' to keep in mind.

Mariabel: Well then, let us continue. 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3...

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny S

Donny: Miss Mariabel! This ring, please accept it!

Donny: ...You would use a ring with a fake jewel to make me yours... your own?

Donny: Tha jewel migh' be fake but my feelin's for ya are real!

Donny: Go wash your face and then come back ta me... return to me, would you?

Donny: ............ .... Hmph. Like ah' thought, there's no way. That someone like me could get married ta Miss Mariabel.

Mariabel: ... Ahem.

Donny: M, Miss Mariabel! D, Did ya see me just now!?

Mariabel: ... Your version of me is a rather high-handed and unpleasant woman, Mr. Donny.

Donny: I, Ah didn' mean it like that...

Mariabel: Please show me the ring for a second.

Donny: U, umm.

Mariabel: ...It's beautiful. You were going to give this to me?

Donny: Umm... But this jewel, it's fake.

Mariabel: Whether the jewel is real or not is irrelevant regarding my answer to your marriage proposal.

Donny: Then you'll... really accept it?

Mariabel: Say it once more, and this time, could you properly face me when you say it?

Donny: Wha' do you... Ah! Ah' understand. Ahem. ... Miss Mariabel. It would be my great honor to marry you.

Mariabel: ... I gladly accept.

Donny: Umm, this is... it ain't a dream, is it?

Mariabel: *Chuckles*... Well now, I wonder. But, if it really is a dream, let us never wake from it.

[Miscellany]

Alright, everyone! In the midst of confusion and deep conversation over the genetics of manaketes, I bring comic relief in the form of Krom and Vake! Gotta love these two fools together. XD

Decided to go literal in many places with this one. If anything sounds a little awkward, then whatever.

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake)

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake C)

Krom: Okay, everyone! From this point on, we will do one-on-one practice battles!

Vake: Alright! I will have a match with you, Krom!

Krom: Vake... At this time, you should only be like a companion...

Vake: You and I are eternal rivals! It is our destiny to continue our eternal battle! Although I surely am a little tired.

Krom: If that's the case, did we change our companionship?

Vake: Wait! Don't do something like avoid me!

Krom: ...I do not have an intention of running from anyone. Weren't you the one who said you were tired?

Vake: Hey, for the purpose of relieving the tension, how about we bet all of our money on hand?

Krom: I don't mind relieving the tension with betting money.

Vake: Yeah... well then, how about this one? The one who loses the battle has to hit Fredrick on the head!

Krom... Really? If Fredrick saw something like that, wouldn't he get angry and sort of scary?

Vake: Heh, you scared?

Krom: Don't be ridiculous. I accept your challenge. ...But I absolutely will not lose.

Vake: I see. So this means that fighting is best for this tension...

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake B)

Vake: Let's have a match, Krom!

Krom: A match is okay, but with one condition.

Vake: A condition? Well, isn't that an unusual thing for you to say!?

Krom: After the practice battle the other day, I was scolded harshly by Liz. She said that because the battle between us became too intense and dangerous, we should have a battle that won't be dangerous.

Vake: Yeah... That match the other day was very intense for both of us. But, well, what in the world is a non-dangerous battle?

Krom: I know, right... What about flipping coins and calling the side it lands on?

Vake: That sort of match is only decided by luck and won't give us a conclusion. Yeah... hmm... How about a cooking match? Both battle and cooking need skill to compete with, right?

Krom: Cooking? I don't have much experience...

Vake: Oh, is that so? That's no good. You'd have a disadvantage. You'll lose the cooking showdown unconditionally. That's like running away.

Krom: ...Don't say that. Fine, making food is fine. I kind of know a recipe. I can't lose to you!

Vake: Yeah. All right, that won't happen!

Spoiler - Supports (KromxVake A)

Krom: Let's have a match, Vake.

Vake: What are you saying, my win was decided already, right?

Krom: What? When did I lose to you?

Vake: The other day's cooking showdown! It's clear that my side was more delicious!

Krom: Geh... But when you ate my cooking, you toppled over and fainted, didn't you? Admit that the results turned in my favor.

Vake: As if! I ate something ridiculous then!!

Krom: it's not like you said the one who makes the most delicious food would win.

Vake: You know... Jeez, you really hate to lose, don't you?

Krom: Don't all people say that? It's the same for you.

Vake: Ha ha, I agree. ...I knew you and I need to agree on a winner.

Krom: I agree... Want to start, Vake?

Vake: Yeah! We'll settle this today for sure!

Pfft, cooking duels are always fun, especially when they're not between women.

Here's yet another conversation between two extremes; this time it's the aristocrat and the bumpkin. Mariabel x Donny, everyone!

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny C

Mariabel: Hold on a minute, what is this? To think that someone put their luggage here!

Donny: Ah! I, Ah'm sorry! That, That's my luggage.

Mariabel: Oh, Mr. Donny. Please do be careful. This passage is used for emergencies.

Donny: I, A see. I'm really sorry. I, Ah'm just a bumpkin, so I don't understand thin's like that at all.

Mariabel: Is that so... I understand. I shall be teaching you several things from now on.

Donny: Eh...?

Mariabel: Let us first start by taking an in-depth look at the laws and conventions of Iris. I will lend you this book so please memorize it from start to finish.

Donny: T, that's a really thick book...

Mariabel: This is a book that details all the laws of Iris. As such, this thickness is to be expected.

Donny: Umm... Ah have to remember all of it?

Mariabel: That's right. Is there some sort of problem with that? Diligence is the most important virtue to have. For the sake of your development and growth, do try to learn it properly. Ah, this book is an important gift that my father has given me so please use it with the utmost care.

Donny: I, Ah understand.

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny B

Mariabel: Mr. Donny. Have you made any progress with the book?

Donny: Ah, yeah. Ah've memorized the book you lent me.

Mariabel: That's quite a lie. Even I have yet to completely memorize it.

Donny: Ah really did. I, Ah'm pretty good at rememberin' stuff.

Mariabel: Very well, then do try to answer some questions about it. For starters, let's see... In the first chapter, the third clause of the fourth paragraph. What is the punishment for...

Donny: In that case... it's hard labour for no less than a year and no more than ten.

Mariabel: That, that's absolutely correct... Did you really memorize all of it?

Donny: Yup. Ah spent all my free time tryin' ta study this book.

Mariabel: All of your free time...?

Donny: Miss Mariabel's been kind enough ta lend someone like me such an important book. So ah hafta do my part too.

Mariabel: Is that so... I honestly never thought you'd handle this matter with such earnestness. I've changed my mind. I shall do my utmost in order to make sure that you grow into a fine gentleman, Mr. Donny.

Donny: Huh... A, a gentleman? Somethin' like that is a little...?

Mariabel: Alright, let's do our best!

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny A

Mariabel: Now, firmly support my lower back. One step with your right leg, then two with your left. Ah, Ow!

Donny: S, sorry! Ah've gone and stepped on your foot again...

Mariabel: It would seem that your memory is not very good with things other than studying.

Donny: Ah know the movements. But whenever I try dancing with Miss Mariabel, Ah just get all nervous...

Mariabel: C, could you please not concern yourself with such weird nerves? ... All of a sudden, I'm getting nervous too.

Donny: Ain't no way that'd be true. You can' be embarrassed 'bout a guy like me. Ah mean, Miss Mariabel is so pretty and beautiful and gorgeous after all.

Mariabel: ... All of them have the exact same meaning, you know.

Donny: Ah, even gettin' praised by someone like me must be a real nuisance to ya...

Mariabel: That is most certainly not the case. In my opinion, you are a very hardworking and respectable person.

Donny: R, really?

Mariabel: Yes. Well, now that we have both complimented one another, shall we continue the dance?

Donny: ...Oh, it were a joke.

Mariabel: No, it wasn't. However, for some reason, I'm no longer nervous.

Donny: Ah, now that ya mention it, me too...

Mariabel: Saying what is on your mind really is quite important.

Donny: Yeah. tha's somethin' to keep in mind.

Mariabel: Well then, let us continue. 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3...

Spoiler - Mariabel x Donny S

Donny: Miss Mariabel! This ring, please accept it!

Donny: ...You would use a ring with a fake jewel to make me yours... your own?

Donny: Tha jewel migh' be fake but my feelin's for ya are real!

Donny: Go wash your face and then come back ta me... return to me, would you?

Donny: ............ .... Hmph. Like ah' thought, there's no way. That someone like me could get married ta Miss Mariabel.

Mariabel: ... Ahem.

Donny: M, Miss Mariabel! D, Did ya see me just now!?

Mariabel: ... Your version of me is a rather high-handed and unpleasant woman, Mr. Donny.

Donny: I, Ah didn' mean it like that...

Mariabel: Please show me the ring for a second.

Donny: U, umm.

Mariabel: ...It's beautiful. You were going to give this to me?

Donny: Umm... But this jewel, it's fake.

Mariabel: Whether the jewel is real or not is irrelevant regarding my answer to your marriage proposal.

Donny: Then you'll... really accept it?

Mariabel: Say it once more, and this time, could you properly face me when you say it?

Donny: Wha' do you... Ah! Ah' understand. Ahem. ... Miss Mariabel. It would be my great honor to marry you.

Mariabel: ... I gladly accept.

Donny: Umm, this is... it ain't a dream, is it?

Mariabel: *Chuckles*... Well now, I wonder. But, if it really is a dream, let us never wake from it.

Donny...why u so cute, but so crappy at fighting? I suppose I'll use him on all my normal mode runs...

[Ein]

D'aaaaaw~

Donny is so adorable.

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Donny...why u so cute, but so crappy at fighting? I suppose I'll use him on all my normal mode runs...

Actually, I think that just about everyone who's used Donny has said that he only needs a little grinding to become very ridiculous really quickly, because his growths are that insane. His bases are unusable on Lunatic, obviously, but I don't think using him on Hard will be that difficult.

[Ein]

Problem being that Donny requires that little thing people absolutely despise known as EFFORT since he seems to end up rather good and his kid ends up with awesome growths maybe. Yeah.