I don't have a script and my japanese isn't good enough to do a real translation, but what I got from the Nn/Nono supports was Nn complaining that her mother was more childish than her. Then in the A Rank Nono convinces her to play for a while.
Hah. That's sweet. Y'know, Nn can't be that old, due to the whole
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'Gimle is nuking everything'
thing, so it's possible she's acting a little too mature for her age, probably due to being born in troubled times. So that's extra heartwarming.
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It could be that Nn/Soso spent a longer time in the past and could be older than her mother or with the Gimle uprising she might have been forced to become more mature to deal with the situation she was growing up in.
I'd assume the second option. I highly doubt that she's older than her mother, and I doubt she came back more than a decade or two into the past at most.
The Nn/Tiki supports (which I only understood fragments of) seem to suggest that Nn ages at a rate closer to humans than to true Manaketes, because of her half and half nature.
Favorite Fire Emblem Game:New Mystery of the Emblem
Posted 16 May 2012 - 05:35 PM
I haven't seen Nono x Nn, but that sounds hilarious already X D
Just to clarify, I'd love to try MU x Nn, but I probably won't be working on it any time soon. So I'm not exactly claiming it or anything yet.
The Nn/Tiki supports (which I only understood fragments of) seem to suggest that Nn ages at a rate closer to humans than to true Manaketes, because of her half and half nature.
I'm not sure why, but I completely forgot about Nn being half-Manakete. That makes a lot of sense ^^
With Richt as his father, Chambray admits that Richt isn't his biological dad in their A support. Richt says he knows but tells him he loves him as if he were his real son. So apparently Velvet screwed someone other than the man you have her marry, yet Chambray acknowledges Richt as his father-figure.
Is it only that pair, or does Velvet do that to everyone?
That's... very interesting. I wonder if there are any other characters that do that?
Does he still inherit stats?
Yeah he still does. I'm going to assume that he does that for any father since he appears to be 100% Taguel, but I will pair Velvet with someone else eventually to find out.
Well, that's strange. I actually did pair Richt and Velvet in my first playthrough, and Chambray inherited Richt's Magic +2 skill, and I'm certain his base Mag stat was quite a bit higher than on my second playthrough.
I actually didn't use first-playthrough Chambray at all until today with postgame grinding for supports, where I paired him with Degel. For the hell of it, I used a Demon Fighter Scroll on him from the start and started training him mostly in magic: after soloing two mid-level skirmishes with Degel as backup, Chambray gained 20 levels and started ripping everything to shreds. I wound up making him a Dark Knight when he reached LV30, and made Degel a Dragonmaster after she learned Great Shield.
My Selena/Vake (Father) C support is identical to the Selena/Henry support listed here, withonly the father's lines changed (I never got the support to B so it might differ further along). I think it's safe to guess that Chambray probably has the same conversation with any of his fathers.
Oh Mark, u so cute. Mark really is like a mini-MU with the opposite sex. I really hope Male MUxAzure and/or Male MarkxAzure, involves Azure trying to hit on girls and all of them liking the other guy better. Double funny points for Father!MU and brother!Mark. ...In fact, I'm going to request that someone translate that as soon as we get it.
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Mark: Ehehee. Sorry, Loran-san. Loran: Tell that to the people you...! I look up and you were playing with the stack of magical tomes! What were you thinking! I almost knocked over the other stack trying to keep them from hitting people! Mark: Sorryy. But, wasn't it fun? You should try it too! Loran: I'll have to refrain. Mark: Aww, don't say that! Loran: I was being unpleasant...why do you always take that tone, Mark? Always dizzily playing around...Do you really think that's good? We're fighting for the world. Please be more aware. Mark: Hmmm...I am aware, but I'm not gonna. Please, take a serious look at this Mark-chan! Loran: ............ Mark: Hey, hey, do you really think I'm not aware that we're fighting for the sake of the world!? Loran: ...Doesn't look like it to me. Please try to emulate your father more. Mark: Then can we play the tome-stacking game together? Loran: Saying such irresponsible things again...enough already... (Loran exits) Mark: Ah, just a minute...Loran-san!
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Loran: Really...Mark must also be troubled. We are still fighting for a peaceful future, but she's always playing those strange games...Is she serious or not...? I'm becoming somewhat uneasy... (Mark enters) Mark: ...Five hundred...and...twenty three! Loran: Huh...? Could it be, over there...? Mark: Five hundred...and...twenty four! Loran: Mark...? Mark: Fuii...Hey, it's Loran-san! What's up? Imagine running into you at a place like this! Loran: I was just passing by...and you? What are you up to? Mark: I'm exercising my abdominals, can't you tell? Although I really want to a strategist, I can't fulfill my role if I'm not strong! Loran: You always do five hundred sit-ups...? Mark: Yep! Because if I take a break from training, I'm not confident I could handle an emergency! I'm strong because I train! I can't give up! I don't need my memories to be useful to everyone! ...What? I always play afterwards, though~. Loran: Mark...you were perfectly aware of your situation... Mark: Eh, what was that? Loran: I apologize. Even though you were diligent in training properly...I bossily told you "Emulate your father more." Mark: Don't worry about that! I train hard, and then play the tome-stacking game as a reward...! Loran: Mark...you're talking about that again...? You'll be in trouble if I see you doing it again...! Stop it! Mark: 'Kay! Then, I'll do it next time! Loran: Don't do it at all!
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Loran: Fuu...both sides are exactly... (Mark enters) Mark: Loran-san, what are you doing? You look kind of in a daze... Loran: Ah, Mark... Mark: Thinking? If you're wondering about something, can I give you advice?! Do it while stacking the magic tomes~! Loran: Again...I'm worried, but not all of it is your fault. Mark: Eh!? What do you mean? Loran: I was made to feel a bit anxious about you. You're always playing those strange games. But there's Mark the idiot and Mark who has fine awareness as a warrior, and works hard at training...! Which one of you is the real one...!? Mark: Whaat, why are you worried about that kind of thing? Loran-san is an idiot~. Loran: I-Idiot, you say...!? Mark: Ahahahah, sorry! I didn't mean that! Of course, since both sides are the real me, you can't decide! Loran: Both sides are? Mark: Yep! I want to have fun playing every day, which is my true feelings, and also I want to become a strategist, so I study and train often, which is also my true feelings! How would you determine which side is useless, huh~? Loran: Y-yes, but...why the serious person, why the frivolous person, I wouldn't know... Mark: Yeah, you want to pick the serious person, right? Loran: I shall do my own thing as well...so do the other. Mark: Hey, hey, since we're friends, I'll think of a joke to wash away your anxiety, so please listen to it! Loran: ...Friends, huh. Fuu...surely we must be, if you say so. Because we've been comrades-in-arms for many battles now. Mark: Comrades...! That sounds cool! My comrade, Loran-san...is awesome!! Then...then, as of today, we're comrades! The tome stacking game...! Loran: ...That's a no. Mark: Yeah~!
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Mark: Umm, Loran-san...I would like to talk to you for a bit... Loran: What is it, Mark? You're suddenly so formal. Mark: The truth is...well, you might be suprised at the short notice, but... ...I, you're the person that I like most. Loran: E-eeeeeh!? Mark: Therefore, Loran-san, don't ever leave me!! Loran: Wh-Wha-What! Are you playing a weird game again? Trying to make me play into your hand? [Actually, he says something about 'riding' and 'that hand'... o.0] Mark: Y-you're wrong! I meant what I said!! Loran: Re-really...? Mark: Yes, I...like to play, but I wouldn't play around with this kind of thing!! Before, you told me I was your comrade-in-arms...those words...but then I realized! Just being comrades isn't good enough!! Loran: ......Mark. Mark: ...There-therefore, I thought to confess properly to you this way...! Umm...How did I do? As I thought, do you hate children like me...? Loran: .........You've made me happy... Mark: Eh! Really...!? Loran: ...But, we are fighting for the world. As you are aware, we're going to have to deny any rumors of a love affair... Mark: That's fine! Then it's decided! I wonder if you'll become stronger once you have love!? Because... I've been training every day on Loran-san's behalf...! ...So, I'll do anything you want!! Loran: Eh...then, is that why you were training so much... Mark: Ye-yeah, that's right...if I were stronger, more serious, I wondered if you would acknowledge me; I've been doing a lot more training than usual with this section lately. Loran: ...So, that's how it was...Indeed, your recent activities were a sight to behold...That's the effect of love...it looks like I don't need to hide my feelings anymore, either. Mark: ...Eh? That means...? Loran: ...Yes, I also like you. Mark: Loran-san...! Really? Loran: Yes... Mark: Yaaaay~! Then from now on, us two are going be together forever!! At this rate, we'll become the strongest lovers who will save everything in the world!! Loran: Yes, we'll have good luck together. ...However, the tome-stacking game is strictly prohibited in the future!! Mark: ...Eh!? Loran: Take a good look, at my and Mother's tome that would been piled up! I thought they were lost, and had to look everywhere because of you!! Mark: ...Y-yeye-y-Yes! I won't do it anymoooore!!
I think I'm going to do HenryxFemale MU next and then HenryxSoiree afterwards. I'd like to see the rest of GangrelxFemale MU as well, but I'd rather TheEnd do it since he's 10x more competent than I am he already did the S support and it'd be best to have them all in one place.
A question popped into my brain. If Mark is the child of My Unit and a 2nd gen character, are there grandparent supports? I'd think not, based on the sheer number of extra conversations (however generic) that would add, but I can't help being curious.
Mark is absolutely, utterly, hilariously adorable. I love all of the children to death though. To be honest, I find them more interesting that the parents in some regards, but I suppose surviving the complete destruction of the world tends to make you a bit more resilient. Anyways, I'm calling Wood x Brady then before someone else takes it. You probably couldn't find a more opposite duo anywhere XD Plus that Gen 2 Non-romantic section on the front page is pitifully empty.
That aside, here's Gaia x Rufure. I'm seriously starting to like Gaia a lot. Based off of this one and Velvet's support, it looks like he has a knack for make jewelery, surprisingly. These two are pretty silly in some respects. I'm starting to see at least partially where Mark get his/her fun-loving attitude. Not to mention, hilarious tsundere response from Gaia at the end. This support made me laugh a few times.
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R: Gaia-san.....I'm really sorry about earlier. I didn't notice that someone was bathing in the lake.
G: No, I have to apologize too. *jokingly* You had to see these half-baked abs because of that.
R: Um....that wasn't all I saw.
G: Aah?! I-I was sure I had my loincloth properly tightened though...?!
R: Ah, no. Gaia-san, I meant the mark on your arm. I read about it in a book...that's what they brand people with if they've commited some serious crime.
G: Ah, that. Yeah it's like you said. In the past, I took on a a certain request. If possible, I'd like to keep it a secret from the others though.
R: I understand. Don't worry, I won't tell anyone.
G: I owe you one. I'll pay you back at dinner tonight, you can have my whole portion.
R: There's no need for that. I wouldn't be able to eat two people's worth anyways.
G: Ah, then you have a sweet tooth? It can't be helped, then I suppose you can have this puff pastry...
R: ...........
G: I see....so something of this level isn't enough. Then here, how about my treasured sugar pastry?
R: Gaia-san! Even if you don't give me anything, I'm not going to say anything!
G: ....oh, I see....
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R: It's rare for you to volunteer to come with me to help us restock, Gaia-san.
G: ....Yeah, but occasionally even I feel like going out somewhere with a lot of people. That aside...Rufure, is there anything you want to buy personally? Like a hairpin, or a bracelet?
R: Hmm, well more than things like that, right now I'd prefer a book on military strategies. I have a lot more to study so I can be useful to Krom-san and everyone else. Although, I don't have much money at the moment, so I suppose there's not much I can do but bear with it for now.
G: A military tactics book, huh...wait here a sec!
R: Ah! Wait a moment, Gaia-san! .... .....ah, he's gone.
G: Fuu, here we go. Is it in here? The book you want.
R: Eh? W-What's with this mountain of books?! ....Don't tell me, you bought up all the books on military tactics?
G: Yeah, these are all yours now. That's why, that thing from before....you definitely can't tell anyone...
R: !! ....It can't be, these are to bribe me? I already told you that I wouldn't tell anyone...! *sighs* ...Gaia-san, I'm not going to accept that sort of gift.
G: ...I see. I'm sorry for doing something unnecessary then.
R: Haa...well, I've troubled you too, Gaia-san... Hm? Ah, that necklace is cute.
G: Do you want that necklace then?
R: ....That's enough, honestly Gaia-san!
G: ....sorry.
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G: Rufure. Here, this is for you.
R: Eh? Such a beautiful necklace...this must have cost a lot.
G: Yeah, it's rather valuable.
R: I can't accept something so expensive.
G: Huh? No that's.........sorry. I lied. It's not actually valuable. This is handmade. I'm actually surprisingly talented at these sorts of things.
R: Handmade? It's amazingly well crafted.
G: You seem to like it quite a bit. That makes all the effort I put in worth it.
R: But, why did you suddenly decide to make this for me?
G: Ah...no...that...you've helped me out with all sorts of things so...
R: ...Is this by any chance another bribe concerning the incident from before? If that's so....I'm returning this. I've said time and time again but, even if you don't give me anything, I won't tell anyone your secret. Can you really not trust me at all? I can be pretty tight-lipped.
G: It's not that I can't trust you. It's just, up until now I've always dealt with people who expect something back if they do you a favor. It's always been give and take so....if someone says they'll help me out for nothing in return, I can't help but think that there's some sort of hidden catch somewhere.... ....It's something like an occupational disease, I suppose.
R: Gaia-san, bend down a bit (lit: lend me your ear, she's basically telling him to lean closer so she can whisper)
G: Hm? ...ah, ok.
R: The truth is.....this has to stay secret but....only, no matter what....and it was... (the ... are parts where the player isn't told exactly why Rufure said, so inaudible)
G: Haa? You....you were bad at that sort of thing...? Pfft...hehe....
R: ....Gaia-san, this is a request from me. That was a big secret of mine, so I want you to protect it. No telling anyone. The recompensation is....hm, let's see. How about in return, I'll protect Gaia-san's secret. That doesn't sound like an unfair request, does it?
G: ....Rufure.... ....Yeah, that sounds just fine. Ah, but it seems....after all, I want you to have that necklace. It's not a bribe or anything, but a sign of my gratitude.
R: *chuckles*....I understand. I'll gladly accept it then.
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R: Gaia-san, you wanted to talk to me?
G: There's something I want you to see.
R: What is it? Did you make another necklace?
G: Nope, this time it's not a necklace. Here.
R: Ah, what a beautiful ring. It looks like the engagement ring we saw in the market.
G: ...A-ah, well actually....that's what it is... I tailored it to fit your finger.
R: Eh...?
G: If you agree...I want you to have it.
R: That....y-you mean that seriously...?
G: Yeah, I'm serious...will you marry me?
R: Ah...*giggles* It's rare to see Gaia-san as the one making a request.
G: Y-You, were you listening? This isn't-
R: Let's see...the recompensation, then a future filled with happiness together sounds good, right?
G: Rufure...
R: ...is that no good?
G: No...it's a fitting recompensation. I understand, I promise that I'll definitely bring you happiness.
R: Then that request, I sincerely accept.
G: ....thank you....Rufure....
R: Hm, that should be my line. Thank you, Gaia-san... I love you...
G: W-wha-...! You...y-you could have said that earlier...that was seriously nerve-wracking....ah, well....that...I...
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G: ...I love you too...the recompensation for this request, I'll spend my life paying it back.
A question popped into my brain. If Mark is the child of My Unit and a 2nd gen character, are there grandparent supports? I'd think not, based on the sheer number of extra conversations (however generic) that would add, but I can't help being curious.
I haven't seen anything to that effect in the Support Viewer.
Or aunt/uncle supports, for that matter. So it seems that if you, say, pair Krom with Mariabel so that Lucina and Brady are siblings, you could then pair MU with one of the two and Mark with the other. Same with Azure if you pair Krom with Olivia. So, uh... what the fuck.
The sheer amount of permutations available is ridiculous if IS had to take into account ALL 3 possible generations. BESIDES TIMEY-WIMEY WIBBLY-WOBBLY BALL OF UNCERTAINTY. I just roll with it.
That aside, since I forgot to mention, I've looked through what supports I have and my second file (where I've saved before all of the children's sidequests). From what I can tell. Nn is from further in the future, at the very edge of the cut-off point before Gimle wreaks complete destruction, Loran is from the same time as Lucina, but he got thrown back further. Lucina, Wood, and Brady are all from around the same time not too long after their parents have all died and it's becoming obvious that they're fighting a losing battle. Mark.....I seem to place him somewhere after Lucina and the others from some of the supports, but since he lost his memory, it's hard to say. Noire seems to be from a different time than the others though. Chambray is also from further in the future, and it seems like he's seen a lot more of the losing side of the war (it explains why Nn and Chambray seem to be the most mature/shell-shocked for their age though. I think they got to see more of Gimle's "let's kill everything" reign of destruction).
Everyone else is up in the air though. I think it's pretty likely that some of the kids are separated by at least a few years though, either by when they jumped back or where they got thrown in the past.
Hahaha ... Loran's so serious, but I still like him. I have no idea what his relative age is in the game, but he acts like such an adult and is all-business. Although ... the S-support seemed a little random to me. :/ But I think a lot of other people have said that the S-supports usually seem a bit random.
