Enaeius Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) So, Atlyx, since your thread got locked, I'll just post here what I was about to say before it got locked. XD Do you have any access to the MU x Olivia supports? I was only able to translate the S support because of a video that was a compilation of the MU S support confession scenes. Kinda curious about her C,B, and A supports with MU. You're in luck. Pegasus Knight has the C-A Supports for MU(Boku) x Olivia. Edited July 11, 2012 by Enaeius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) You're in luck. Pegasus Knight has the C-A Supports for MU(Boku) x Olivia. Aww... that's sweet. So much embarrassment between the two of them. XD Unless someone beats me to it I'll post up a translation at a later time. Edited July 11, 2012 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 She has the mind and body of a child. An arbitrary number doesn't really mean much at all. Regardless, she's still 1000+. Unless you're making the claim that age as an entirety is arbitrary, your point doesn't really mean much at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Regardless, she's still 1000+. Unless you're making the claim that age as an entirety is arbitrary, your point doesn't really mean much at all. If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck. Even if you write zebra on the tag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elhienn Hovercast Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Regardless, she's still 1000+. Unless you're making the claim that age as an entirety is arbitrary, your point doesn't really mean much at all. Like someone explained Dogs has different lifetime than humans, 3 years for a dog may be older enough to mate, but to humans it isn't, the same can be applied to dragons and humans, Nono acts and looks like a child, if she isn't a full manakete then her aging would be less problematic, but if she's a full dragon then she will age too slowly, Tiki only reached teen/adulthood after another couple of thousand years, ad then there's the problem with her clothing that's too skimp for her looks, of course it would leave a bad taste in some people mouths. I loved Valhart support with FemMU, but I can't help but think it's weird when someone makes their FemMU a bit short which makes the difference with Valhart's size wider, it's feels sort of awkward trying to figure out how er... "it worked" to make Mark be born >__> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airship Canon Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If it looks like a duck, acts like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck. Even if you write zebra on the tag. Irrelevant, she's not human so your analogy is broken. Like someone explained Dogs has different lifetime than humans, 3 years for a dog may be older enough to mate, but to humans it isn't, the same can be applied to dragons and humans, Nono acts and looks like a child, if she isn't a full manakete then her aging would be less problematic, but if she's a full dragon then she will age too slowly, Tiki only reached teen/adulthood after another couple of thousand years, ad then there's the problem with her clothing that's too skimp for her looks, of course it would leave a bad taste in some people mouths. As evidenced by n_n existing, Nono IS old enough to mate at 1000, so... yeah, you haven't proved much. In the end, 1000 still is 1000, so unless age itself is totally arbitrary, you're dealing with a 1000 year old dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 We really should just drop it, it's not like we haven't had this argument before :/ Though I do agree, physical age is irrelevant if the individual in question is still mentally a child :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Age is arbitrary. It can be useful for estimating stuff for humans, but there are still exceptions, and Nono isn't human. As L95 pointed out, this is not a matter of physical age: it's a matter of mental state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Irrelevant, she's not human so your analogy is broken. Sorry, the analogy isn't whether or not she's human. It's whether or not she's a kid. Everything we've seen suggests she looks, acts, thinks, and functionally is a child. The 1000 years thing is a piss poor excuse and I cringe anytime someone defends it in media. It's absolutely absurd. As evidenced by n_n existing, Nono IS old enough to mate at 1000, so... yeah, you haven't proved much. In the end, 1000 still is 1000, so unless age itself is totally arbitrary, you're dealing with a 1000 year old dragon. Thank goodness we have you around to defend the logistics of a fictional creature. Instead of someone defending why you can bed a character who's design looks like a 10 year old. Awesome. Edited July 11, 2012 by Sanji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeniferos Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Sorry, the analogy isn't whether or not she's human. It's whether or not she's a kid. Everything we've seen suggests she looks, acts, thinks, and functionally is a child. The 1000 years thing is a piss poor excuse and I cringe anytime someone defends it in media. It's absolutely absurd. Thank goodness we have you around to defend the logistics of a fictional creature. Instead of someone defending why you can bed a character who's design looks like a 10 year old. Awesome. Come on, now. Is this really necessary? =/ First off, the bold pretty much contradicts the point of the whole Nono discussion/argument. She's in the game. Not much you can do about it. Some like it. Some don't. They might change her design for the NA release. They probably won't. Regardless, there won't be much point in arguing about it. It's been argued over too many times as it is. This is a Support Conversation thread. Let's try to be a little more friendly and on topic, yeah? On topic: I vote more Grego love! Oh, and Basilio or Flavia if there are any of either floating around! Edit: Actually just read BasilioxFlavia, and it was great. "I don't have enough time in my life to talk to you" had me rofl'ing. Edited July 11, 2012 by Xjezhekiir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enaeius Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 And now we return to our regularly scheduled programming with the much-anticipated Soiree x Frederick. Look forward to Olivia x Krom coming soon to a theater post near you. [spoiler=Soiree x Frederick C]Soiree: There you are, Frederick! I was hoping I could train with you a bit. Frederick: No problem. Please come at me whichever way you like. Soiree: Alright then! HAAAA! Frederick: That's a fine move... But! Soiree: AHH! Frederick: Are you alright, Miss Soiree? Soiree: Yeah... I give up. It's my loss. Thanks... a lot. ....... Frederick: Is something bothering you? Soiree: ... I'm just wondering why I was beaten so easily, is all. Frederick: That wasn't easy at all. It was a very close match. Soiree: But, I didn't lose to anybody else during practice. Frederick: Victory is a roll of the dice. It's not always the strongest who wins. Soiree: Yeah... Thanks for the lesson. When I get tougher, I'll be back to challenge you again! Frederick: I shall be awaiting your return. [spoiler=Soiree x Frederick B]Frederick: What's wrong, Miss Soiree? You haven't been acting like yourself these last couple of fights. Is something troubling you? Soiree: ... I just can't hide anything from you, can I? I was trying to figure out why I keep losing to you. Frederick: Ah, so that's what this is about. Well, that's not really something you need to worry about. After all, we're comrades. Soiree: But it's still strange to me. You... are the only person I've felt I couldn't beat even before fighting them. I wonder why? Frederick: Hmm, I see... That reminds me, I was the one who taught you how to use the sword and spear when you were still a trainee with the vigilante corps. Soiree: Yeah. Back then, I felt I would never lose to any of the men there... But when I first went up against you, the instructor who didn't really look all that strong, I was pulverized... Frederick: Ah, "Pulverized" is a little too much. That was just something of a rite of passage. Soiree: That "rite" frustrated me so much that I couldn't get a wink of sleep that night... Frederick: ... Moving on, that day is probably the cause for all this. In a fight between a martial arts master and their pupil, the disciple wouldn't really stand a chance. Your initial impression of "I can't beat my master!" must have remained with you. Soiree: ! Then, the reason I can't beat you... is that you crushed me before, Frederick!? Frederick: As I said before, it was nowhere near that severe. [spoiler=Soiree x Frederick A]Soiree: Frederick. Did you see that last fight? Frederick: I certainly did. You fought magnificently. It looked like you've resolved some important matter within yourself. Soiree: Yup. Thanks to you, Frederick... I finally got it. As a woman, it was absolutely unacceptable for me to lose to a man... For me, beating you became a goal that I desperately strove for... Fredrick: Those feelings aren't bad at all.. Soiree: I know. But I had almost lost myself to them. I realized that defeating you, the man, wasn't my real goal. What I should be aiming for is nothing like that. It was to earn your trust as comrades... Once I started thinking like that, I believe that I'm finally on my way to becoming your equal. Frederick: Miss Soiree... You have become a fine adult indeed. Soiree: I was finally able to come face to face with my true self. It feels like a whole new door is now open in front of me. And it's all thanks to you. I'm truly grateful that you are my teacher. Frederick: No, you're no longer my student. That relation has ended for us. We are now comrades, equal in standing and position. Soiree: Yeah! Thank you! [spoiler=Soiree x Frederick S]Soiree: Ughh... Frederick: What's wrong, Miss Soiree? Is there something troubling you again? Soiree: I was thinking about the reason I wasn't able to beat you before. Frederick: What's this? Haven't we already resolved this matter? The bit about how we were martial arts master and disciple at the time... Soiree: Yes and I agreed with you about that. But that's not it. This feeling... it's different. Frederick: ......? Miss Soiree...? Soiree: I always get so flustered when I'm in front of you... I always used to think about you... It's the first time I've ever felt this so I didn't understand it at first but... I like you. Frederick: Miss Soiree... Soiree: I'm sorry for just saying something like that out of nowhere. But if I don't resolve this, I won't be able to move on. Please tell me... how you feel. Frederick: Understood. Well then... This is how I feel. Please accept it. Soiree: ... This is... a ring? And my name is engraved on it... Frederick: I had this made for you. Once this war had ended, I was going to... Soiree: ... You'd really be happy with someone like me? Frederick: Indeed. No one else will do. Soiree: It's really strange. It feels like another new door is being opened for me. One that is just shining with the promise of happiness and satisfaction... Frederick: I feel it too. Once I had recognized my feelings, just being with you seemed to fill my heart with a warm light. Soiree: .... .......Frederick... Frederick: Please be my light from now on. Soiree: Yes. With pleasure. Frederick: Thank you, Miss Soiree. I vow to love you always and forever. Soiree: Thank you too, Frederick... Please look after me from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elhienn Hovercast Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Irrelevant, she's not human so your analogy is broken. As evidenced by n_n existing, Nono IS old enough to mate at 1000, so... yeah, you haven't proved much. In the end, 1000 still is 1000, so unless age itself is totally arbitrary, you're dealing with a 1000 year old dragon. Some children can get pregnant, there was a case in Brazil when a child was raped and she got pregnant, so Nono having N_n doesn' mean that she has the ideal age to mate. Ok, back to the topic, I sort of liked Soiree x Frederick, at first I thought that it would be they being hilarious seriously about training but I'm surprised that this wasn't "the focus", it was more with being rivals of sorts, I like Teacher-Stundent thing in some occasions, so this is a plus~ Thanks a lot Eaenius I can't wait till Swag-Snake Olivia x Krom supports, so far I'm shipping her with everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miscellany Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Yes, what Xjezhekijr and Enaeius said. Have another support to talk about. (It looks like I messed up the C Support instead of the A this time -_-;;) [spoiler=Male MUxSerge] [spoiler=C Support] Serge: How's this one? ...Worthless? Then, how about this one? But I think he's quite handsome. Alright...they're not to your taste. How troubling... Rufure: Serge? Who are you talking to? Serge: Oh my, Rufure. You came at a good time. Rufure: Eh, are you having trouble with something? Serge: Rufure, you're her friend, do you think she's a beautiful wyvern? Rufure: Eh...I'm friends with a wyvern? Are you seriously asking me that? Serge: Yeah, of course. I've been looking for mate for Minerva-chan, but...she hasn't exactly liked anyone yet. Rufure: Minerva...Serge, you say she keeps rejecting them? Matchmaking, huh...I heard that it was the beginning of the season for that. Serge: That's correct. I also...no, I'm probably the first in human history. Rufure: Incredibly magnificent, you say, it sound like your plans are going smoothly huh? Serge: The great step of mankind, shouldn't try to cooperate in it? [angry Serge is angry] Rufure: I, I see...I'll try to cooperate. Serge: See, Rufure said he'll cooperate. Isn't that great, Minerva-chan? (Minerva growls) ...Ufufu, we're delighted about it. Rufure: Yeah, delight...seems more like mad rage... [spoiler=B Support] Rufure: Serge. I looked at information about wyverns from various places. Serge: Oh, thank you! Would it be okay for me to look, I wonder? Rufure: Yeah. Serge: My my, they're like caricatures...Say, Rufure. I wonder, is this all the information on everyone about girls? Rufure: Eh, yeah, did I do something wrong? Serge: ...Rufure. Minerva-chan is a girl. Rufure: Eehh, she is!? I thought for sure...so she's not a boy... Serge: Geez. No matter how you look at her, how could you not see a pretty girl? Rufure: Where are you looking...but, you really got that angry when I asked... Serge: Did you say something~? Rufure: N-no, no! Sorry, it seems like I misunderstood! I'll gather information on the right gender of wyvern next time. Serge: I looks like Minerva-chan is actually a sucker for handsome men, so try to find some for her, okay? Rufure: How do you even find a good or bad-looking wyvern... Serge: By the shape and length, by the gloss of his scales and his bulk, by the sharpness of his fangs and claws, by the size of his wings...The overall contour and the beauty of his cry is important, too. Rufure: I, I see. I have no confidence in this...but I accepted. [spoiler=A Support] Rufure: Serge. Here, how's this guy? I think he's pretty handsome, don't you? Serge: Well! He seems perfectly fine at first glance. Here. Look, Minerva-chan. Would he satisfy you from now on? (Minerva's cry) ...Ufufu, so you like this kind of guy. Rufure: Thank goodness...I would been in trouble if she didn't. Serge: Thank you, Rufure. I'm happy you were so empathetic for Minerva-chan's sake. Rufure: Then, maybe my name will go down in history for this feat, huh? Serge: Yeah, of course. Rufure's name will go down as a great matchmaker. Rufure: Me, a matchmaker!? Moreover, a wyvern matchmaker? How can that be, when I've never even hooked two humans up? [Lies! MU pairs off everyone ] Serge: Rufure, you shouldn't consider that. Rufure: It makes me happy to hear you say that, but I wonder if I had such an important role... Serge: It's alright. It's thanks to you they'll be able to meet face-to-face now. Rufure: Thanks...I don't know what to say. I'm not entirely sure I've succeeded, but... (Minerva's cry) Uwaaah!? Wh...what, what!? My ears are starting to feel weird...!! Se-Serge!! Is she happy to be going? You're not going to fly into a mad rage at me, are you?! Serge: I won't fly into a mad rage. It'd be like abandoning one of our own. Rufure: Eeehhh!? That wasn't a threat! Serge: Well, Minerva-chan and I owe you that much. Rufure: But I feel cheated somehow...Alright, since I've come this far already, I've decided to see through until the end. Serge: Fufu, thank you. Isn't that great, Minerva-chan? (Minerva's cry) Rufure: Yeah...happy to help... [spoiler=S Support] Serge: Rufure, sorry about earlier. After all the trouble trying to introduce that wyvern to Minerva, it didn't go well. Rufure: That was a quite a fierce fight they had.. I thought the world was going to end. ...but I was even more anxious about how you stopped those wyverns from fighting Serge: Ha ha.. well. I just scolded her a bit Rufure: We'll try to find another mate for her, so don't give up yet. Serge: That's right, I can't let her miss her chance to marry like me. (lit: Serge is saying that she's past her marriageable age) Rufure: Miss your chance? I take that it means you've been through marriage interviews once? Serge: Yes, but those never went well. They fled the moment they saw Minerva. Minerva and I are one set, so if they can't get along with Minerva than I can't accept a marriage. Maybe I'm just stubborn about that. I guess that's why I missed my chance. Rufure: I don't think so. I must thank Minerva for shielding you away from other men. Serge: What do you mean? Rufure: This is what I mean (gives something to Serge) Serge: Oh my.. a ring.. is this? Rufure: I love you Serge. Let's be together from now on. Of course, it goes without saying that I'll take care of Minerva as well. Will you marry me? Serge: Rufure.. I.. thank you.. this is the best proposal I ever had. I accept it. Rufure: Thank you. I'm so happy. Serge: What a twist.. I intended to find a mate for Minerva, but I got one for myself instead. Rufure: Well then.. let's announce this to everyone Serge: Yes, I'm sure they will be delighted Serge: I love you. I must have survived this long to meet you. About marriageable age in Japanese fiction http://tvtropes.org/...n/ChristmasCake Credit for the S Support goes to ColdBrand. I think someone wanted Callum supports, but then someone faster then me did a couple of them already...Anything else anyone wants? Edited July 11, 2012 by Miscellany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elhienn Hovercast Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yes, what Xjezhekijr and Enaeius said. Have another support to talk about. (It looks like I messed up the C Support instead of the A this time -_-;;) [spoiler=Male MUxSerge] [spoiler=C Support] Serge: How's this one? ...Worthless? Then, how about this one? But I think he's quite handsome. Alright...they're not to your taste. How troubling... Rufure: Serge? Who are you talking to? Serge: Oh my, Rufure. You came at a good time. Rufure: Eh, are you having trouble with something? Serge: Rufure, you're her friend, do you think she's a beautiful wyvern? Rufure: Eh...I'm friends with a wyvern? Are you seriously asking me that? Serge: Yeah, of course. I've been looking for mate for Minerva-chan, but...she hasn't exactly liked anyone yet. Rufure: Minerva...Serge, you say she keeps rejecting them? Matchmaking, huh...I heard that it was the beginning of the season for that. Serge: That's correct. I also...no, I'm probably the first in human history. Rufure: Incredibly magnificent, you say, it sound like your plans are going smoothly huh? Serge: The great step of mankind, shouldn't try to cooperate in it? [angry Serge is angry] Rufure: I, I see...I'll try to cooperate. Serge: See, Rufure said he'll cooperate. Isn't that great, Minerva-chan? (Minerva growls) ...Ufufu, we're delighted about it. Rufure: Yeah, delight...seems more like mad rage... [spoiler=B Support] Rufure: Serge. I looked at information about wyverns from various places. Serge: Oh, thank you! Would it be okay for me to look, I wonder? Rufure: Yeah. Serge: My my, they're like caricatures...Say, Rufure. I wonder, is this all the information on everyone about girls? Rufure: Eh, yeah, did I do something wrong? Serge: ...Rufure. Minerva-chan is a girl. Rufure: Eehh, she is!? I thought for sure...so she's not a boy... Serge: Geez. No matter how you look at her, how could you not see a pretty girl? Rufure: Where are you looking...but, you really got that angry when I asked... Serge: Did you say something~? Rufure: N-no, no! Sorry, it seems like I misunderstood! I'll gather information on the right gender of wyvern next time. Serge: I looks like Minerva-chan is actually a sucker for handsome men, so try to find some for her, okay? Rufure: How do you even find a good or bad-looking wyvern... Serge: By the shape and length, by the gloss of his scales and his bulk, by the sharpness of his fangs and claws, by the size of his wings...The overall contour and the beauty of his cry is important, too. Rufure: I, I see. I have no confidence in this...but I accepted. [spoiler=A Support] Rufure: Serge. Here, how's this guy? I think he's pretty handsome, don't you? Serge: Well! He seems perfectly fine at first glance. Here. Look, Minerva-chan. Would he satisfy you from now on? (Minerva's cry) ...Ufufu, so you like this kind of guy. Rufure: Thank goodness...I would been in trouble if she didn't. Serge: Thank you, Rufure. I'm happy you were so empathetic for Minerva-chan's sake. Rufure: Then, maybe my name will go down in history for this feat, huh? Serge: Yeah, of course. Rufure's name will go down as a great matchmaker. Rufure: Me, a matchmaker!? Moreover, a wyvern matchmaker? How can that be, when I've never even hooked two humans up? [Lies! MU pairs off everyone ] Serge: Rufure, you shouldn't consider that. Rufure: It makes me happy to hear you say that, but I wonder if I had such an important role... Serge: It's alright. It's thanks to you they'll be able to meet face-to-face now. Rufure: Thanks...I don't know what to say. I'm not entirely sure I've succeeded, but... (Minerva's cry) Uwaaah!? Wh...what, what!? My ears are starting to feel weird...!! Se-Serge!! Is she happy to be going? You're not going to fly into a mad rage at me, are you?! Serge: I won't fly into a mad rage. It'd be like abandoning one of our own. Rufure: Eeehhh!? That wasn't a threat! Serge: Well, Minerva-chan and I owe you that much. Rufure: But I feel cheated somehow...Alright, since I've come this far already, I've decided to see through until the end. Serge: Fufu, thank you. Isn't that great, Minerva-chan? (Minerva's cry) Rufure: Yeah...happy to help... [spoiler=S Support] Serge: Rufure, sorry about earlier. After all the trouble trying to introduce that wyvern to Minerva, it didn't go well. Rufure: That was a quite a fierce fight they had.. I thought the world was going to end. ...but I was even more anxious about how you stopped those wyverns from fighting Serge: Ha ha.. well. I just scolded her a bit Rufure: We'll try to find another mate for her, so don't give up yet. Serge: That's right, I can't let her miss her chance to marry like me. (lit: Serge is saying that she's past her marriageable age) Rufure: Miss your chance? I take that it means you've been through marriage interviews once? Serge: Yes, but those never went well. They fled the moment they saw Minerva. Minerva and I are one set, so if they can't get along with Minerva than I can't accept a marriage. Maybe I'm just stubborn about that. I guess that's why I missed my chance. Rufure: I don't think so. I must thank Minerva for shielding you away from other men. Serge: What do you mean? Rufure: This is what I mean (gives something to Serge) Serge: Oh my.. a ring.. is this? Rufure: I love you Serge. Let's be together from now on. Of course, it goes without saying that I'll take care of Minerva as well. Will you marry me? Serge: Rufure.. I.. thank you.. this is the best proposal I ever had. I accept it. Rufure: Thank you. I'm so happy. Serge: What a twist.. I intended to find a mate for Minerva, but I got one for myself instead. Rufure: Well then.. let's announce this to everyone Serge: Yes, I'm sure they will be delighted Serge: I love you. I must have survived this long to meet you. About marriageable age in Japanese fiction http://tvtropes.org/...n/ChristmasCake Credit for the S Support goes to ColdBrand. I think someone wanted Callum supports, but then someone faster then me did a couple of them already...Anything else anyone wants? That was... A very weird support O__o, I don't know why, but I felt a bit lost reading this support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Leave it to TE and SOC. Having 6 yrs of Japanese transcribing. Since when the HELL are we the ONLY valid translators here? There's a bunch of very capable translators here. And despite the roundabout method that this thread was started with, that doesn't invalidate their translations at all. Besides, I'm not confident in my ability at all compared to TE. Edited July 11, 2012 by shadowofchaos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 That was... A very weird support O__o, I don't know why, but I felt a bit lost reading this support Eh... I remember not liking that one at all. Serge's supports with other guys aren't just about her talking about getting her wyvern laid so she can get married right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeniferos Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Yes, what Xjezhekijr and Enaeius said. Have another support to talk about. (It looks like I messed up the C Support instead of the A this time -_-;;) [spoiler=Male MUxSerge] [spoiler=C Support] Serge: How's this one? ...Worthless? Then, how about this one? But I think he's quite handsome. Alright...they're not to your taste. How troubling... Rufure: Serge? Who are you talking to? Serge: Oh my, Rufure. You came at a good time. Rufure: Eh, are you having trouble with something? Serge: Rufure, you're her friend, do you think she's a beautiful wyvern? Rufure: Eh...I'm friends with a wyvern? Are you seriously asking me that? Serge: Yeah, of course. I've been looking for mate for Minerva-chan, but...she hasn't exactly liked anyone yet. Rufure: Minerva...Serge, you say she keeps rejecting them? Matchmaking, huh...I heard that it was the beginning of the season for that. Serge: That's correct. I also...no, I'm probably the first in human history. Rufure: Incredibly magnificent, you say, it sound like your plans are going smoothly huh? Serge: The great step of mankind, shouldn't try to cooperate in it? [angry Serge is angry] Rufure: I, I see...I'll try to cooperate. Serge: See, Rufure said he'll cooperate. Isn't that great, Minerva-chan? (Minerva growls) ...Ufufu, we're delighted about it. Rufure: Yeah, delight...seems more like mad rage... [spoiler=B Support] Rufure: Serge. I looked at information about wyverns from various places. Serge: Oh, thank you! Would it be okay for me to look, I wonder? Rufure: Yeah. Serge: My my, they're like caricatures...Say, Rufure. I wonder, is this all the information on everyone about girls? Rufure: Eh, yeah, did I do something wrong? Serge: ...Rufure. Minerva-chan is a girl. Rufure: Eehh, she is!? I thought for sure...so she's not a boy... Serge: Geez. No matter how you look at her, how could you not see a pretty girl? Rufure: Where are you looking...but, you really got that angry when I asked... Serge: Did you say something~? Rufure: N-no, no! Sorry, it seems like I misunderstood! I'll gather information on the right gender of wyvern next time. Serge: I looks like Minerva-chan is actually a sucker for handsome men, so try to find some for her, okay? Rufure: How do you even find a good or bad-looking wyvern... Serge: By the shape and length, by the gloss of his scales and his bulk, by the sharpness of his fangs and claws, by the size of his wings...The overall contour and the beauty of his cry is important, too. Rufure: I, I see. I have no confidence in this...but I accepted. [spoiler=A Support] Rufure: Serge. Here, how's this guy? I think he's pretty handsome, don't you? Serge: Well! He seems perfectly fine at first glance. Here. Look, Minerva-chan. Would he satisfy you from now on? (Minerva's cry) ...Ufufu, so you like this kind of guy. Rufure: Thank goodness...I would been in trouble if she didn't. Serge: Thank you, Rufure. I'm happy you were so empathetic for Minerva-chan's sake. Rufure: Then, maybe my name will go down in history for this feat, huh? Serge: Yeah, of course. Rufure's name will go down as a great matchmaker. Rufure: Me, a matchmaker!? Moreover, a wyvern matchmaker? How can that be, when I've never even hooked two humans up? [Lies! MU pairs off everyone ] Serge: Rufure, you shouldn't consider that. Rufure: It makes me happy to hear you say that, but I wonder if I had such an important role... Serge: It's alright. It's thanks to you they'll be able to meet face-to-face now. Rufure: Thanks...I don't know what to say. I'm not entirely sure I've succeeded, but... (Minerva's cry) Uwaaah!? Wh...what, what!? My ears are starting to feel weird...!! Se-Serge!! Is she happy to be going? You're not going to fly into a mad rage at me, are you?! Serge: I won't fly into a mad rage. It'd be like abandoning one of our own. Rufure: Eeehhh!? That wasn't a threat! Serge: Well, Minerva-chan and I owe you that much. Rufure: But I feel cheated somehow...Alright, since I've come this far already, I've decided to see through until the end. Serge: Fufu, thank you. Isn't that great, Minerva-chan? (Minerva's cry) Rufure: Yeah...happy to help... [spoiler=S Support] Serge: Rufure, sorry about earlier. After all the trouble trying to introduce that wyvern to Minerva, it didn't go well. Rufure: That was a quite a fierce fight they had.. I thought the world was going to end. ...but I was even more anxious about how you stopped those wyverns from fighting Serge: Ha ha.. well. I just scolded her a bit Rufure: We'll try to find another mate for her, so don't give up yet. Serge: That's right, I can't let her miss her chance to marry like me. (lit: Serge is saying that she's past her marriageable age) Rufure: Miss your chance? I take that it means you've been through marriage interviews once? Serge: Yes, but those never went well. They fled the moment they saw Minerva. Minerva and I are one set, so if they can't get along with Minerva than I can't accept a marriage. Maybe I'm just stubborn about that. I guess that's why I missed my chance. Rufure: I don't think so. I must thank Minerva for shielding you away from other men. Serge: What do you mean? Rufure: This is what I mean (gives something to Serge) Serge: Oh my.. a ring.. is this? Rufure: I love you Serge. Let's be together from now on. Of course, it goes without saying that I'll take care of Minerva as well. Will you marry me? Serge: Rufure.. I.. thank you.. this is the best proposal I ever had. I accept it. Rufure: Thank you. I'm so happy. Serge: What a twist.. I intended to find a mate for Minerva, but I got one for myself instead. Rufure: Well then.. let's announce this to everyone Serge: Yes, I'm sure they will be delighted Serge: I love you. I must have survived this long to meet you. About marriageable age in Japanese fiction http://tvtropes.org/...n/ChristmasCake Credit for the S Support goes to ColdBrand. I think someone wanted Callum supports, but then someone faster then me did a couple of them already...Anything else anyone wants? I found this support to have its own kind of charm. It wasn't as "bam" as a few other supports I've read, but it was... Cute, in a way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samias Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I love the hard work of the translators but it bothers me that so few of the girls have any self-confidence in a way that doesn't demean their own gender. Considering how many women there are in this particular army, the fact that the majority of them are bemoaning their female weakness is actually kind of mindboggling. I think because Soiree specifically demeans herself all the time because she's a girl, it makes me think less of her character, while a more confident girl like Sariya, no matter how crazy she is, happens to be much more attractive. I nope NoA/NoE takes some liberties and gives the girls a little more self-respect. I just really hate all this "Strong... for a girl" vibe I'm getting from a lot of the supports, especially in a fantasy game. I realize this has happened throughout the series many times, but I wish more of the characters would be more like Titania from FE9/10. Sorry 'bout the rant, but it's been bugging me for awhile! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Aren't Sariya, Nono, Anna, Chiki, Miriel, Nn, and Cynthia the females that don't worry about their femaleness too much or something? >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I love the hard work of the translators but it bothers me that so few of the girls have any self-confidence in a way that doesn't demean their own gender. Considering how many women there are in this particular army, the fact that the majority of them are bemoaning their female weakness is actually kind of mindboggling. I think because Soiree specifically demeans herself all the time because she's a girl, it makes me think less of her character, while a more confident girl like Sariya, no matter how crazy she is, happens to be much more attractive. I nope NoA/NoE takes some liberties and gives the girls a little more self-respect. I just really hate all this "Strong... for a girl" vibe I'm getting from a lot of the supports, especially in a fantasy game. I realize this has happened throughout the series many times, but I wish more of the characters would be more like Titania from FE9/10. Sorry 'bout the rant, but it's been bugging me for awhile! Blame Japan. Headstrong women mean standing out. And they're a conformist society. "The nails that stands out gets hammered back in." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Blame Japan. Headstrong women mean standing out. And they're a conformist society. "The nails that stands out gets hammered back in." Not just Japan you know. It applies to a lot of societies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Not just Japan you know. It applies to a lot of societies. Well, considering how it's a game coming from Japan... I believe my statement was SOMEWHAT relevant, I'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Well, considering how it's a game coming from Japan... I believe my statement was SOMEWHAT relevant, I'd imagine. I like to bring down everyone when it comes to making a certain individual/place look bad. :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othin Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Aren't Sariya, Nono, Anna, Chiki, Miriel, Nn, and Cynthia the females that don't worry about their femaleness too much or something? >_> I think we can add Velvet, Lucina, and Flavia to that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ein Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I think we can add Velvet, Lucina, and Flavia to that list. I forgot about them... Wait. What about Sairi? :< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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