61 replies to this topic

[Hamlet]

Then why throw around the more offensive and clearly incorrect term?

[CrashGordon94]

Then why throw around the more offensive and clearly incorrect term?

Because I'm not concerned with the former and disagree with the latter?



Anyway, we've gotten really off track here so I actually have a question: Didn't Athos refer to Bram with male pronouns, at least primarily? I can't quite remember, I know it's in the script but I don't feel like tracking it down right now.

[Balcerzak]

Anyway, we've gotten really off track here so I actually have a question: Didn't Athos refer to Bram with male pronouns, at least primarily? I can't quite remember, I know it's in the script but I don't feel like tracking it down right now.

I'm not sure that matters, as Hanon was refered to with male pronouns, and she was female.

[dondon151]

Because I'm not concerned with the former and disagree with the latter?

you can't disagree with objective statements; it's just not possible.

[Anouleth]

Because I'm not concerned with the former and disagree with the latter?

Well, you should be concerned with the former. Offensive comments are forbidden by the code of conduct. And also it's rude.

you can't disagree with objective statements; it's just not possible.

Not really. None of us really know for sure whether or not Bramimond is still physically a man, so Crash isn't really incorrect to call him a transsexual.

Edited by Anouleth, 08 June 2012 - 01:01 PM.

[dondon151]

Not really. None of us really know for sure whether or not Bramimond is still physically a man, so Crash isn't really incorrect to call him a transsexual.

that's not what i was referring to

the transgendered = genderless equivalency that crash believes in is fundamentally incorrect

[CrashGordon94]

I'm not sure that matters, as Hanon was refered to with male pronouns, and she was female.

Who? Sorry if that sounds like an empty question but some context might be helpful.

[Thor Odinson]

Hanon is the Sacae chick with the bow.

From the 8 Heroes.

(on another note, kinda funny how Sacaen women rarely fight (ShinFir support) when their resident hero is a woman)

[CrashGordon94]

Then why would they call her a "he"?

[Balcerzak]

Then why would they call her a "he"?

Because NoA fucked up? Translators aren't infallible, especially if they haven't localized the prior games taking place in the world.

[Anouleth]

Hanon is the Sacae chick with the bow.

From the 8 Heroes.

(on another note, kinda funny how Sacaen women rarely fight (ShinFir support) when their resident hero is a woman)

It's also mentioned in Karla/Farina iirc. Funny how Sacaens say their women rarely fight yet of the nine Sacaeans you get, four are female: Karla, Fir, Lyn, and Sue.

[CR-S01]

And 3 out of 4 are sword users, even though it says that Sacaean women rarely use swords over bows.

[Celice]

It's also mentioned in Karla/Farina iirc. Funny how Sacaens say their women rarely fight yet of the nine Sacaeans you get, four are female: Karla, Fir, Lyn, and Sue.

That's because the rest died defending themselves with baskets of corn and figs.

(on a more honest answer, I don't remember the reasons for Sue, but the other three are contextual situations where Fir is following her mother, Lyn surviving on her own, and Karla being whatever Karla is).

[Anouleth]

And 3 out of 4 are sword users, even though it says that Sacaean women rarely use swords over bows.

They're all sword users, actually, after promotion.

[Sangyul]

I don't remember the reasons for Sue

Well, she is the chief's granddaughter. Maybe that is reason enough?

[eclipse]

Karla's was because her family was like that (read her support with Karel).

[BrightBow]

It's even worse then that. Lyn went as far as saying said that her tribesmen were "old-fashioned" and "wouldn't follow a woman".
Hanon is a war hero of the Scouring and the founder of Sacae and very likely the greatest national hero of the country.

It's embarrassing enough that the games claim that Sacaen have this sort of attitude but then they also add that Sacaen women wouldn't pick up a sword. And yet the game puts female Sacaen swordfighters all over the place.
That one of them was the chiefs daughter in an "old-fashioned" clan puts the cherry on top of this nonsense. The whole thing is just hilarious bad writing.

Forget what I said. The topic is already off the rails.

Edited by BrightBow, 09 June 2012 - 08:39 AM.

[Refa]

maybe they should've made HANON a dude after all

[BrightBow]

maybe they should've made HANON a dude after all

Or they should simply not have claimed that Sacaen have issues with Women. Way easier that way and it doesn't make the female Sacaens we do meet feel out of place.

[Refa]

Or they should simply not have claimed that Sacaen have issues with Women. Way easier that way and it doesn't make the female Sacaens we do meet feel out of place.

how is that easier than changing a few letters