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[Tyrant Sage]

btw, Cord's positioning influences the AI of the enemies on the map.

[Peekayell]

Your turncounts are looking pretty snazzy. Only thing is that I think that bow forge was...Well, kinda frivilous. Maybe it's just me, but forges just seem like a luxury in this game. Sure, it helps to have awesome slayer weapons, but you can get by without them.

Then again, I hate spending money on things that aren't the arena and stat boosters.

Well, I tried the chapter without the Forge a few times. But I got overwhelmed by the Dracoknights. When you pull one, all come at the same time and I didnt have enough firepower. I then decided to just do what Balcerzak did and forge the awesome Steel Bow.

btw, Cord's positioning influences the AI of the enemies on the map.

Thought so. Cord sucks so much that they want to gang up on him :P.

Anyway, I ran into a problem with photobucket so I couldnt update. But I did ch 3 and 3x.

Spoiler - Chapter 3

Before the chapter, I reclassed Arran to Dracoknight. And gave the RP to Arran so he could ORKO the ballistae with silver. Catria got another RP use. As well as Luke so he can 3HKO Dracoknights.

My strategy was basically to go counterclockwise and recruit Cord then go for Julian, recruit Matthis and gang up on the boss with MU Palla and Arran. I fed the kill to Palla because shes too good.



And here we got Bord. I just recruited him for his Hammer really. His spd is awful and just like Cord, he struggles to do much. At least he has a good axe rank unlike the useless Cord.



I lured the first Draco with Arran and Catria killed it, leveling up.



Ryan kileld a DK with the forge. And as you can see, Rainbow Pot allows Luke to 3HKO Dracoknights like a boss. He leveled up after he killed it:



Luke, you are amazing.

After Luke killed that Dracoknight and got that amazing Level up, Gaggles and Linde teamed up on the other with Linde getting the kill.

I keep advancing and moving palla to safety. Then, in Turn 9 I lure the other Dracos, like this:



Then, Catria, MU and Palla all killed those DKs with help from Arran's javelin chip. Palla leveled up here:



Expected/10.

Luke and the other handled some more dracos and leveled up.



<3.



Aaarghhh nooo.



Looool.

MU and Palla now sit on forts and heal in preparation for the final assault. Luke GOES UP the water with bord and the others acting as decoys so he doesnt get damaged and gives malliesia some stuff to heal. Speaking of, she healed and got a level:



WHYYY?

Marth recruits Julian.



What are bases? Lol. His thieving will come in handy though.

I now prepare for the final assault. The moment of truth. I lure Matthis to MU, Catria takes a Javelin to the face and Palla kills a cavalier in EP.



Catria leveled up when she threw a javelin and didnt get str again >:(. Not good. But those defenses lul.

Julian the recruits Matthis. Arran then goes and ORKOs the ballistae courtesy of the Rainbow Potion.





You can always count on Arran to get the bad levelups.

The others finish the other cavaliers off. MU got a level.



Her HP growth is still nonexistent, but I like her levelup.

Palla heals herself up for no reason at all, wasting a vulnerary and i prepare to take on the boss next turn.

In turn 16, Arran does 12 damage to the boss with Silver Lance, MU does 10x2 damage to the boss with Lady Sword and Palla takes the kill with Silver Lance, leveling up.



ALL HAIL PALLA THE GREAT.

Now Marth who was completely useless this chapter goes and seizes for a 17 turn clear. Pretty standard.



Chapter 3 done in 17 turns.

Funds: 5730 G

Nothing bought or sold.

Unit		Class		Lv	Lv2	Xp	HP	st	Mg	Sk	Sp	Lk	Df	Rs	WLv
Marth		Lord		8		63	29	10	0	12	12	11	8	1	Sword D
Elena		Cavalier	10		16	23	14	2	13	16	9	13	1	Sword E Lance C
Arran		Dracoknight		4	15	25	11	1	12	11	4	12	3	Lance B Axe E
Gordin		Archer		6		13	22	10	0	7	6	5	9	0	Bow D
Luke		Pirate		9		36	30	15	0	9	17	8	7	0	Axe E
Ryan		Hunter		8		57	26	13	0	10	12	6	8	0	Bow C
Malicia		Cleric		3		94	17	0	3	2	6	13	2	6	Staff C
Catria		PegKnight	9		01	25	8	2	10	17	11	10	8	Lance C
Linde		Mage		4		70	20	0	4	5	8	8	2	4	Tome D
Palla		PegKnight	12		22	26	11	2	13	17	9	10	7	Lance B
Bord		base
Julian		base
Matthis		base

Rainbow Pots used:
Arran
Catria
Luke

Remaining uses: 69

Im seriously considering to buy a Seraph Robe from the base for My Unit so she can take 2 hits. Her def is fine, but currently, the lack of HP really kills her potential...

[Peekayell]

Spoiler - Chapter 3x

This chapter is very simple. Just reclassed Luke and Catria to Cavaliers, gave an RP use to Ryan and MU.

Hey! Its wryyyyyyyyyyssssssssssss.



At first, it looks like hes in a tight spot. But its actually quite easy to make him survive if you have enough firepower + fliers.



This is why I gave the RP to Ryan. He can double armors and ORKO with the forge. I had Palla ORKO the top archer and MU Javelin'd the other one, both clean ORKOs. MU needed the RP to ORKO the archer.



This positioning has one of the armors going after Marth, while the other goes after Luke, disappointed that it couldnt gang up on Marth. Next up, Wrys goes right. Ryan KOs the armor that went for Marth. Luke and Catria finish the other armor. Palla moves right but out of range of the archer. And MU lures the archer towards her and ORKOs it on EP. Next, Palla moves to the fort and wrys goes right again. MU and marth keep advancing. Palla kills the armor and stays in the fort in PP 4 and wrys heals her. Marth and MU keep moving. Then a reinforcement comes. Ryan attacks in PP5 and levels up:



YES.

Luke finishes the armor. Now Palla and MU team up on the armor next to the bushes with MU getting the kill because shes low on HP.

Turn 6, I have Palla javelin the last armor, MU javelins it too and kills it. And Marth seizes.



Chapter 3x done in 6 turns.

Funds left: 5730 G

Didnt buy or sell anything...

Unit		Class		Lv	Lv2	Xp	HP	st	Mg	Sk	Sp	Lk	Df	Rs	WLv
Marth		Lord		8		72	29	10	0	12	12	11	8	1	Sword D
Elena		Cavalier	10		84	23	14	2	13	16	9	13	1	Sword E Lance C
Luke		Cavalier	9		79	30	13	0	10	15	8	10	0	Sword D Lance E
Ryan		Hunter		9		06	26	14	0	10	13	6	9	0	Bow C
Catria		Cavalier	9		10	27	9	0	7	16	11	12	2	Sword E Lance C
Palla		PegKnight	12		76	26	11	2	13	17	9	10	7	Lance B
Wrys		Curate		5		72	17	0	4	6	7	5	3	7	Staff D

Rainbow Pots used:
Ryan
MU

Remaining uses: 67

[Lord Raven]

looks like you're rigging lots of Res

also i see a lot of +str/mag and +spd level ups.. hmm. these level ups are a little too good.

Edited by Lord Raven, 15 June 2012 - 09:32 PM.

[Vorena]

Elena got one point of resistance in 9 levels at 10% growth.
Marth got a point of resistance at 5% in two levels.
Palla got a point in two levels with 10% resistance
And catria got two points in 3 levels with 5-10%

I guess by a stretch you could call that rigging.

Marth is like a point above avg. stats at this moment with 40%-50% growths in stats except def/resistance. Luke is a little out of place with speed, but he was reclased to pirate for a number of levels 70% speed growth. The rest aren't all that different. The rest make sense with the reclasses. I just don't see anything weird here that couldn't be good fortune for being like a point above average.

[Furetchen]

Elena got one point of resistance in 9 levels at 10% growth.

That doesn't strike me as off.

Marth got a point of resistance at 5% in two levels.

... Well I guess maybe you have a chance (Did he have the maturity drop or whatever it's called?)

Palla got a point in two levels with 10% resistance
And catria got two points in 3 levels with 5-10%

... Um.

I guess by a stretch you could call that rigging.

That stretch is about as much as I'm stretching right now to reach my keyboard, which is comfortably within arms reach.

I'm bad at math so I won't try to figure that speed/str bit, but the pegasi are being very 'blessed' at the moment.

[dondon151]

i don't see why we're bothering to scrutinize PKL about this

i mean he's not being an ass or anything

[Vorena]

I just thought the rigging call-out was unwarranted, and it bothered me. A whole 3 points of resistance in a couple of levels doesn't mean much of anything. When on average of 10 levels you get one point increase, why should it have to happen exactly on the 10th level and cannot happen on the first two levels, then does not happen for for the remainder to average out. And the rest as I said aren't out of place either with reclasses (chosen as they have been so far).

[Peekayell]

Oh come on, seriously? The most important stat for Catria hasnt proc'd in 2 levels in a row (which is Str at 50% growth) but suddenly, im rigging because she got 2 points of def/res in a row? lol, is all I have to say to that. As for Luke, his growths as pirate: 130% HP, 75% Str, 0% Mag, 40% Skl, 70% Spd, 40% Lck, 25% Def, 0% Res. That hp. 75% Str is crazy and its obviously going to proc most levels. 70% spd is almost the same as FE11 caeda's spd growth, which procs more often than not. As for Marth, he has the Maturity Drop which makes his growths: 110% HP 70% Str 75% Skl 75% Spd 90% Lck 40% Def 15% Res. He proc'd +2 Hp and res in chapter 1 IIRC. But the other stats are to be expected with these growths. :/

Anyway, Im kinda stuck in Chapter 4. I already know what I must do. (Rescue Marth, recruit Castor, recruit sirius and make the axe guys split up so they dont kill everyone in sirius's group). But the guys pack so much MT, that its downright ridiculous. They all have 30 MT or more, while the hunters have 22 MT which is still pretty threatening. I might have to rescue Seraph Robe My Unit over to help Sirius' group. And all my characters have to chug RP, including Sirius mid chapter...

[dondon151]

use DK arran and your PKs to pull them once they start moving

[Peekayell]

Spoiler - Chapter 4

This chapter is hell. Nuff said. I had to be careful and not recruit Sirius ASAP because their group would then get ganged up on and die.



Ogma looks decent. Im probably not gonna use him after this chapter though and maybe chapter 6, for armorslayer.



I will probably use Yumina. Her staff rank should prove to be useful.



Lol. Im definetely not gonna use him.

Anyway, I have Linde Aura a Pirate and Ryan takes the kill.



I reclassed him to Myrmidon for the spd growth and so he can start building sword rank for Horseman.



Palla is freaking godly. She doesnt even need RP to ORKO things unlike her incompetent sister, Catria.

MU ORKOs the pirate to the right.

And Arran + Catria team up on the pirate thats below Palla in this pic. The other pirate is left alive.

Gaggles and Luke team up on the Armorslayer thief with Luke getting the kill and leveling up.




I probably shouldnt have made him a Cavalier -_-.

Now Yumina rescues Marth and he goes to the village and recruits Killer Bow Castor.



I now have Castor trade the Rainbow Pot from Marth, then Yubello trades it and Ogma trades it and uses it in range of a Pirate.



In EP, that pirate goes after Ogma and he is badly injured. And Palla got attacked by the Pirate that was left alive near the start. In PP2, I have Castor chip the thief and Marth gets the kill. Ogma finishes off the pirate. And yumina healed him.



And levels up:



Finally some defense!

Malliesia healed up MU and got a level:



Decent.



I now have people plug the forts. While Catria and Palla gang up on the Devil Sword thief with Palla getting the kill and leveling up:



Lol she somehow missed a 90% chance to proc skl. But def and str. Good stuff Palla.

MU keeps going up.



In turn 3, I have MU and Catria lure these Pirates while Palla lures another one to her. Castor also got to Killer crit a Hunter.



Which lured 2 pirates and another hunter to them.
Yumina healed Castor and leveled up:



Fun fact: In one of my failed runs, she got +skl only.

Marth ORKOs the hunter thanks to Rainbow Pot which frees Ogma to talk to Sirius. He recruits him and now Sirius moves up to form this positioning:



This has one of the Pirates going after Sirius.



While the other cant make it to Sirius so it goes after Ogma



Making it pretty reliable. As you can see, Palla blocked that fort so another nasty reinforcement doesnt come. Shes later replaced by Arran in fortplugging. Speaking of, now I had Linde run for her life and unplug one of the forts:



Why did I do this? Well, I wanted some more training for Ryan and Luke. A reinforcement spawned and went after Luke, then Ryan finished it off:



And they plugged forts again.

Linde is one tile out of reach of the reinforcement, thanks to the sand.

I had Marth and co. finish the pirates off. While Catria Palla and MU prepare to go for the boss area. Arran plugs the fort. In turn 6, MU Arran, Catria and Palla killed a hunter, the hand axe pirate and the other pirate. Arran was replaced by Ogma in fortplugging.



Then, MU Iron Swords the boss



She does 26 damage to the boss. Then Catria chips with a Javelin and hits 1 of the 2 attacks and levels up:



SHE GOT STR



And Palla finished him off and is just 5 points short of leveling up >:(.

I have Marth seize for a 7 turn clear. Glad that's over.



Chapter 4 done in 7 turns.

Funds left: 5730 G

Didnt buy or sell anything yet again...

Unit		Class		Lv	Lv2	Xp	HP	st	Mg	Sk	Sp	Lk	Df	Rs	WLv
Marth		Lord		9		46	30	11	0	13	13	12	9	1	Sword D
Elena		Cavalier	11		50	24	14	2	14	16	9	14	1	Sword E Lance C
Luke		Cavalier	10		25	31	14	0	10	15	9	10	0	Sword D Lance E
Ryan		Myrmidon	9		95	24	11	0	15	18	6	10	0	Sword E
Catria		Cavalier	10		03	28	10	0	8	17	12	12	2	Sword E Lance C
Palla		PegKnight	13		95	27	12	2	13	17	9	11	7	Lance B
Arran		Dracoknight		4	26	25	11	1	12	11	4	12	3	Lance B Axe E
Malicia		Cleric		4		89	17	0	4	3	7	13	2	6	Staff C
Linde		Mage		4		80	20	0	4	5	8	8	2	4	Tome D
Gordin		Archer		6		23	22	10	0	7	6	5	9	0	Bow D
Ogma		Mercenary	7		41	27	8	0	14	13	5	8	0	Sword C
Yumina		Cleric		3		52	16	0	3	1	8	10	2	5	Staff C
Yubello		Mage		1		11	18	0	1	1	6	5	3	3	Tome D
Castor		Hunter		7		41	24	10	0	7	10	4	6	0	Bow C
Sirius		Paladin			1	19	28	12	1	14	13	4	11	6	Sword B Lance A

Rainbow Pots used:
Marth
My Unit
Catria
Ogma

Remaining uses of RP: 63

[Peekayell]

Oh man, I need to undeploy someone to make space for Julian so he can recruit Rickard. Which should get the axe this chapter?

1. My Unit
2. Luke
3. Catria
4. Palla
5. Malicia
6. Yumina
7. Sirius
8. Caeda
9. Ryan

Im thinking Yumina. Even though 2 healers might come in handy, I really cant undeploy anyone else. I already undeployed Arran for Ogma so he can recruit Barst...Luke needs more training for Armoslayer next chapter. Catria's doubling and lady sword comes in handy. Palla's OHKO'ing of the mages is too clutch to pass up and shes just too good to undeploy. Malicia is better than Yumina so nope. Sirius helps a lot in the same way Palla does, OHKO'ing threatening mages. And Caeda has hax spear and needs more training. Ryan is practically needed for the chapter for the DKs and because he can ORKO anything else except the snipers with an RP use...so yeah, Yumina looks like the best choice. Anyways, I wont be doing the chapter today so Im gonna leave a poll :P

[CR-S01]

It's kind of obvious who's gonna win. Err, lose.

[uzy5o]

I don't bother recruiting Rickard in chapter 5. I don't think it's possible without putting Julian in range of the snipers, so you need to burn a use of Rescue on him. Just recruit him in chapter 6, where it's much easier. Unless you really want that Master Seal in the secret shop.

[eclipse]

You can recruit Rickard on turn 1, but I don't know how hard those mages hit. If it's less than Julian's HP, he'll be fine. If not, get creative, or wait until Chapter 6.

[Peekayell]

Well, he can reach him with a rescue use but the bolganone mages OHKO julian and hes also in range of the snipers. Horace gave me an idea, and that is to block off rickard's path when in the mountains with a flier. It should work, If I hurry up.

[eclipse]

Here's what I do in drafts:

1. Julian can reach Rickard on turn 1; fiddle with his positioning.
2. Recruit Rickard immediately, then have him run elsewhere.

Then you can rescue Julian.

[Peekayell]

Thing is, Rickard's positioning is slightly higher in H3 than in the other modes. So Julian cant actually reach in turn 1 like he can in H1.

[eclipse]

Ah, okay. Didn't know that.

[Peekayell]

Ah, okay. Didn't know that.

Alright. Its just another troll move by Intelligent Systems :P.