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[Silvercrow]

Rules (adapted from Integrity's)
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- Warp skipping has an impact on scores in so far as "Safy has an high base staff rank". Nanna would score lower than Safy because of her lower rank, but no chapter is explicitly said to be skipped. You can't get Warp and then suddenly say every character after doesn't exist or requires turns to recruit. Something could be said of Xavier, or Conomore/Amalda who are in an escape chapter where Leaf starts next to the escape point.



Ronan: 2.42
Marty: 2.89
Tanya: 3.82
Dalsin: 4.38
Evayl: 5.02
Hicks: 5.89
Brighton: 6.90
Machua: 7.03
Halvan: 7.35
Carrion: 7.54
Dagda: 7.54
Rifis: 7.70
Leaf: 8.18
Shiva: 8.26
Karin: 8.50
Felgus: 8.79
Othin: 8.86
Lara: 8.92
Fin: 9.06
Nanna: 9.13
Safy: 9.48
Asvel: 9.58

As a mounted bow unit with all around mediocre stats, she is pretty useless in general. Her one saving grace is that, unlike all the other bowmen, she actually has a weapon rank high enough to use the Brave Bow, an incredibly powerful weapon. That alone saves her from the garbage heap that her friends go into, but not by much. 3.5/10

[Heavy Weapons Ike]

She's basically Nanna with bows. She's high level and have a B in bows but she has shittastic bases and growths. Charge is sort of 50/50 usefulness to her.
Overall, mediocre unit but can be fun to use. 7.4/10 (6.9 with .5+ bias for being hot)

[Doga Blockovich]

For once, Selphina is an archery unit starting with a bow rank higher than E, with a very good B. Alas, the rest of her bases range from workable (7 Skill, 10 Speed and 8 Movement) to quite bad. 5 Strength is awful, but at least it is paired with the Charge skill and good speed, so her damage output isn't as bad as expected, even with a PCC of 1. She also manages to get the Hero Bow from Glade, and will likely be the only one to use it until Xavier comes along or one of your trained archers manages a B rank, which takes quite some time. It's not a complete monopoly, but she does have a claim on it for at least a few chapters, and we're looking at possibly eight attacks in one turn.

22 HP and 6 Defense does her no favors, though, and she definitely wants to leave the frontlines as easily as she got in after shooting something. She's especially vulnerable towards ballistae and long range magic since her Charge skill means she will likely get doubled by them and her dodge isn't too reliable since she loses avoid from most bows, such as the Brave Bow.

Her growths are also quite terrible in almost every stat except Luck, which means she'll likely have to use more scrolls than most. Hezul is probably the most important one to fix her absurdly low HP and Strength, but she'll also take the Neir for some Build. Sadly, these scrolls are in high demand already.

She does have positives in giving out supports to four units, but her subordinates aren't very good and Glade is only decent. She also keeps her archery skills indoors for what it's worth.

Decent, "unique" offense coming off a high Bow rank and some supports, but everything else is terrible. If you really want an archery unit with Charge, Dagda and Xavier will be superior.

3.5/10.

Edited by Dio, 11 June 2012 - 11:42 AM.

[ポーラ]

-Instant access to Killer/Silver Bows
-Mediocre stats in general
-Mounted and with good movement
-Extremely hard to train later without scrolls.
-Gets you both the Hero Bow and the Elite Sword

3.9/10

Edited by アイネ, 11 June 2012 - 11:33 AM.

[Jave]

Quite underrated if you ask me. B-rank in Bows and getting you the best bow in the game is amazing. Her big drawback is that she'll definitely need scrolls to help with her HP and Strength, but her Skill, Speed and Luck are good enough to make up for that. You can start training her in 11x, and she can grow to be a decent unit, and while archers in general aren't very good in this game Selfina might be the best one due to instant Brave Bow.

6.5 + 1 bias = 7.5/10

[General Banzai]

I REALLY LIKE DUEL WHEN I'M GETTING SMASHED IN THE FACE AND CAN'T COUNTER

OH HI DOUBLE-ATTACKING BALLISTA

On a related note, 6 attacks Brave Bow

7/10

Edited by General Banzai, 11 June 2012 - 11:50 AM.

[Emperor Hardin]

5/10

She's okay I guess, but far from a good unit.

[Aquaman]

6 ATTACK BRAVE BOW!

Until I get Dagda to B bows

4.5/10

Edited by Folgore Green, 12 June 2012 - 12:05 AM.

[Swordsalmon]

Brave Bow on a pony.
6/10

[zyl5_]

Selphina 3/10

She gets a 3 because she is a bow user when you've already got 4 others -- three of them are better than her in various ways, her durability is terrible because of her poor HP / DEF base+growths and because of how Charge works in this game, and is outclassed by Robert - A bow user who joins that same chapter. Her saving grace is that she provides very useful items that you would not be able to obtain without her. But the OP has forbidden such things to affect ratings. Either way, I would not use her under normal circumstances.

+ She gets you some rather nice items for other units. Elite Sword is pretty much mandatory for powerleveling Carion.

+ Being a mounted unit in this game is handy, since she usually won't be doing any major fighting she can do other tasks like item fetching.

± Her Charge skill and decent speed base+growths allows her to attack enemies several times per turn, but with a PCC of 1, and poor strength bases+growths, she usually doesn't kill anything of importance without her Killer Bow – which slows her down.

± She supports many units; unfortunately, most of them are not worth using.

- Her base 5 build means she loses Attack Speed and Avoid from any bow she can equip, The Killer Bow she comes with has 9 WGT, which pretty much makes her base 10 speed effectively 6. Her +15% BLD growth makes this virtually unfixable due to the low rate and the fierce competition for the Neir scroll.

- The Charge skill also works against her since it often causes her to get attacked multiple times by a single attacker, and with her poor durability, it can often be quite fatal; getting targeted by a Ballista is pretty much a death sentence for her.

- Being a (fragile) Mono-bow user ultimately means limited enemy-phase contributions.

- Robert joins the same chapter as Selphina and has similar base stats to her, but he also has far better stat growths than her. He also has 3 PCC to her 1 PCC which makes him a better user of the Killer Bow. And by the time he can equip it, his stats will have long eclipsed Selphina's.

Edited by zyl5_, 12 June 2012 - 12:19 PM.

[Colonel M]

Robert also has E Bows and Killer Bow is B rank, dumb ass.

Selphina should be higher than what she's being scored at the moment. I would consider somewhere around 4-5 range at the bar minimum. Charge can be a double-edged sword, but she can also Canto away from danger in situations.

[Furetchen]

Robert joins the same chapter as Selphina and has similar base stats to her, but he also has far better stat growths than her. He also has 3 PCC to her 1 PCC which makes him a better user of the Killer Bow. And by the time he can equip it, his stats will have long eclipsed Selphina's.

This doesn't factor the various points at which Robert's stats AREN'T eclipsing Selphina's. Such as, in most cases, 'the whole game'.

[Baldrick]

but she can also Canto away from danger in situations.

I know a place where she is 100% safe.

It's called the bench.

[Colonel M]

I know a place where she is 100% safe.

It's called the bench.

You mean the same place where Robert is mostly ending in, probably more often than her?

[zyl5_]

Robert also has E Bows and Killer Bow is B rank, dumb ass.

Selphina should be higher than what she's being scored at the moment. I would consider somewhere around 4-5 range at the bar minimum. Charge can be a double-edged sword, but she can also Canto away from danger in situations.

- Robert joins the same chapter as Selphina and has similar base stats to her, but he also has far better stat growths than her. He also has 3 PCC to her 1 PCC which makes him a better user of the Killer Bow. And by the time he can equip it, his stats will have long eclipsed Selphina's.

And by the time he can equip it, his stats will have long eclipsed Selphina's.

Learn to read, dumb ass.

[Colonel M]

Learn to read, dumb ass.

Oh trust me, I can read.

Now tell me when Robert has B Bows and starts eclipsing Selphina.

[dondon151]

as far as growths go, selphina doesn't mind having low growths in most of her stats because she's still, for example, fast enough to double pretty much everything for the entire game with 10 base, +2 spd on promo, and a modest 35% spd growth. 25% str growth is depressing, but she gets +2 str on promo and a nearly exclusive 14 MT brave weapon, so like, who cares?

it's kind of sad that warpskipping and leaving behind capture fodder on escape maps is such a strong trivializing impetus in FE5, otherwise selphina could have actually been mediocre.

[Baldrick]

You mean the same place where Robert is mostly ending in, probably more often than her?

The very same! He and his friends don't even have the short-term usage she has thanks to her weapon ranks.