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#21 FionordeQuester

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:15 AM

If you don't mind, could you please tell me the general strategy you used for all the chapters in the game?

#22 Chiki

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:43 AM

If you don't mind, could you please tell me the general strategy you used for all the chapters in the game?


I'll do the ones I haven't already explained on the first page.

1: Oscar carried Ike, Titania dropped behind her. Titania kills boss, Ike seizes.
2: Charged with Titania when she came.
3: Just charged.
4: Titania went full move while the others barely did anything at all. Killed the boss on turn 2 enemy phase with a Hand Axe.
6: Oscar, Titania and Ike went west then south. I believe Titania weakened the boss and Oscar got the kill.
7: Not much to say. Charged west with Titania and tried to let everyone else get the remaining kills.
9: Charged with Titania. Once I got Marcia, she rescued Ike, then Oscar took Ike and dropped him.
10: Just charged with Lethe, Titania, Oscar and Marcia.
11: Had to use Smite on Titania and Shove on a promoted Marcia to reach the arrive square here. Kieran and Oscar killed the boss after Titania weakened him.
12: Promoted Marcia killed almost everything.
13: Got all the chests with Volke and Sothe to make the ravens retreat.
14: Charged with Marcia.
15: Marcia got the Boots, Volke got the Physic and Marcia one-rounded Muarim on turn 2.
17-1: Charged with Marcia.
17-2: Shoved Marcia with Lethe, Mordecai and Muarim, then rescued and dropped Mordecai on turn 1 with Kieran and Oscar. Mordecai used the Demi Band to transform and smited Marcia to Arrive.
17-4: Just got some shoves to kill Oliver.
18: Just charged with Marcia and some others.
19: Reyson got shoved like 8 times to be able to Vigor Marcia to a place where she can kill the boss.
20: Marcia weakened, Calill got the kill on the boss. Tanith arrived.
22: Bolting crit. I can do this without RNG abuse but that would be a waste.
24: Just shoved Reyson then used the Rescue staff on him so he wouldn't get killed. Marcia was able to reach in 3 turns with Reyson's help.
28: Vigored Marcia with Reyson, and dropped Ike in the middle of a bunch of enemies so he'd get into Wrath + Resolve range.
E: Wrath + Resolve Ike.

#23 FionordeQuester

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:48 AM

Thanks Aeine!

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#24 Hawk King

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:21 PM

Where did you use your Laguz Stones??

Chapter 18 can be completed in 6 turns (possibly 5) if Reyson uses a Laguz Stone.

I can do a 6 turn in my current draft with only Titania, Kieran, and Tanith. None of them have the boots.

With a boots!Marcia added to that team, I think 5 turns is definitely possible.

#25 Chiki

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 01:44 AM

Where did you use your Laguz Stones??

Chapter 18 can be completed in 6 turns (possibly 5) if Reyson uses a Laguz Stone.

I can do a 6 turn in my current draft with only Titania, Kieran, and Tanith. None of them have the boots.

With a boots!Marcia added to that team, I think 5 turns is definitely possible.


I didn't bother using Laguz Stone Reyson because I doubted I'd be able to reach those raven reinforcements in time, but it might be possible. Though I'm still skeptical because there's an absurd amount of untransformed ravens.

#26 Hawk King

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 07:32 AM

Like I said, with just Titania, Kieran, and Tanith to escort transformed Reyson I could get 6 turns pretty easily, and I havent given the boots to anyone yet.

6 turns is a guarantee, and with Muarim, Mordy, Lethe, to shove/smite the mounts, and other footies to shove Reyson, 5 turns might even be possible. It would be hard though.

On EP 6 there are 3 transformed Ravens who will self-destruct. So you only need to kill 4 UNtransformed Ravens when PP 6 ends. For a 5 turn you would need to kill 5 UNtransformed Ravens when PP 5 ends.


Stealing that 1st bolting might even be possible on turn 4 if you can get the Sage to switch tomes on turn 3. The mounts and Reyson should be past Shinon on turn 3 so they wont be targeted.


Hmmm, I kinda wish I could try this now...

#27 Chiki

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 08:04 AM

Have you done this before, or are you speculating? You use the word "can" a lot, so I get the impression you haven't done it yet, though I could be wrong.

If you have, I might do another playthrough later on because this is a quick game for me. I wanted to try a couple more turn cuts as well.

#28 Hawk King

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 08:32 AM

Sorry for not being clear.

I CAN and did do it in 6 turns with the team I described without any trouble. So with a full team and no Bexp restrictions it would be a guarantee.

The 5 turn is purely speculation.

#29 Chiki

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:12 AM

Alright then, once I finish OoT Master Quest I'll get busy on another playthrough. I think I may be able to cut one more turn from 28 as well, so hopefully it'll be worth it. I'll also look for a few more turns to cut, if that's even possible.

#30 FionordeQuester

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 12:58 AM

By the way, who would you give BEXP to, and at what exact Chapters would you give them the experience?

#31 Hawk King

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 07:10 AM

^ are you being serious? Cause with this and your last question, it really seems like you are just trying to be a pest...

#32 Chiki

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:47 AM

By the way, who would you give BEXP to, and at what exact Chapters would you give them the experience?


Sorry, but it's like you're questioning my data. :/

Obviously I can't remember all of that, but I'll tell you all the characters that I gave bexp regularly to:

Ike
Oscar
Kieran
Marcia
Ilyana
Mia
Mist

#33 FionordeQuester

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:19 PM

...I'm not trying to be a pest. I'm just legitimately curious, that's all. I mean, I know that you dropped like, every single point of BEXP you could into Marcia at Chapter 10, but after trying it out, I was able to almost promote Oscar even at Chapter 8, so I figured that you had to have used a little bit of BEXP before Marcia in order to have only just barely had enough to promote her.

Of course, now I realized that Titania may have been at a lower level than my Oscar was, as he was Level 7 by the time I got to Chapter 8.

And then of course, you only had Ike at Level 11 or something by the time you were getting close the Chapter 17, so I knew you couldn't have BEXPed Ike before then, and I also knew that you were trying to get Oscar promoted by Chapter 17, so I logiced that out.

But that still leaves me confused as to when Illyana, Kieran, and Mia got BEXP, so that's why I asked. I'm sorry if I came across like I was being yet another doubter of your work, I mean, believe me, I know what that's like. I remember trying to convince a whole bunch of guys at Gamefaqs that the Fighter/Fighter/RedMage/RedMage party was faster at beating Final Fantasy 1 than a Fighter/Fighter/Fighter/Red Mage, but no one would listen to me, to the point where I had to create two simeltaneous playthroughs to try to prove that I was right...




I would've said something earlier, but I couldn't find the exact threads where I had those big arguments with the guys at Gamefaqs. But, I'll dig them up if you wish.

Edited by FionordeQuester, 29 July 2012 - 03:20 PM.


#34 Chiki

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:40 PM

But that still leaves me confused as to when Illyana, Kieran, and Mia got BEXP, so that's why I asked.



It's alright. Anyway, Kieran and Oscar both got equal amounts of bexp while they were aroudn (Kieran got a bit more early on to catch up to Oscar). Ilyana and Mia got random bexp throughout every chapter.

#35 FionordeQuester

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:41 PM

I'm guessing that happened every time she wasn't quite sufficient for the role you wanted her to play in those chapters?

Edited by FionordeQuester, 29 July 2012 - 03:41 PM.





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