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[Gyarados]

Helios
Wasn't very useful in-thread and made some noteworthy posts and scumreads.Vvoting BBM for his continuous shifting wasn't a solid reason IMO, but he seems to have started the strawman lynch on D2, though I'm surprised he didn't expand on it more. His night 1 use of the alignment check made sense, and him shooting Kay on N2 also made sense, even though Paperblade had to talk him into it. Overall Helios's D1 was subpar, but the rest of his game was decent. I think he needs to work on his posts.

scorri
I don't think scorri played poorly on D1. I think several others played poorly and misinterpreted her, which is what caused the votes on her. Seems to have suspected Aere throughout the day, voting and eventually killing him. I'm not sure I agree with the strong scumtell on Aere she seemed to have, but I'm a mod and look at the game in a very different way, so whatever. She played well IMO and got killed by levity on N1.

Aere
I don't think he played well, and was even a bit scummy. Did a lot of voting around, never really expanding on his reasons, and at one point even said he wanted Iris to roleclaim for her Strawman vote, which is just a horrible overreaction. And yes, he did OMGUS. Needs to work on his posting, as well as his post analysis.

Paperblade
Played well. Had solid scumtells and more or less lead the town to the right lynch, seemingly every phase. The only point where he messed up in my opinion, was when he started arguing with eclipse.

Elieson
Claimed miller right from the getgo, which I think was done in a pro town way, and kept this attitude up till the end. Had solid reads. Overall solid play.

BigBangMeteor
His in-thread performance was pretty poor. Too much waffling and second guessing and flipping. Also claimed way too early IMO. Did have decent targets for his cop role, though.

Iris
Was active which made me a happy panda. Unknowingly helped Levity win. Had a pretty good performance overall.

eclipse
Made good use of her role and her information gathering, and overall played the night phase and her night results well, though in my opinion her posting needs some work. Her posts tend to be hard to read the intent of, and for overall performance I recommend you adapt a more obvtown posting style.

Shinori
Too much waffling and second guessing, also pretty poor scum reads in my opinion. Needs to work on his posting style and his post analysis.

Camtech
Dude I don't know why you always wanted to get yourself killed when you didn't even knew what would happen. Overall play was similar to Shinori and BBM. Too much waffling, too much flipflopping and too much second guessing.

Nightmare / San
Nightmare was inactive. I don't think he seemed scummy to the town on D1, which is good. He subbed out like halfway through N1 and was replaced by Kay. Kay followed Psych's plan for the night without question. Then followed it up by playing her usual scummy self on D2. The only reason she survived D2 was because Strawman was also obvscum. Again followed Psych's plan for N2 and was killed. San played poorly and I don't think she cared much for this game. This is in stark contrast to her performance in the big OC faction games of times beyond us.

Strawman
Played relatively decently in-thread on D1. At least in my opinion. Also followed Psych's plan for N1. However started not making sense on D2 and was lynched in the end.

Rapier
Rapier didn't start off too bad, but messed up when he started getting tested for reactions (at least that's how I see it) and also not being around to defend himself against the late-D1 wagon that caused his lynch. Really needs to work on his posting. I'll give you a short tip here; before posting ever, get a clear idea of what you want to say in it and/or what you want to achieve with the post.

Psych/Snike
Psych more or less lead the scum team and managed to keep himself off the scumlist till D3. So I suppose that if any of the mafia deserves a MVP award, it's psych. For N1, he decided it was a good idea to roleblock eclipse(random), kidnap BBM and inform on BBM as well. And finally to kill Elieson. This was overall a sensible plan. Then on D2 tried to have strawman some misinformation on possible SK's, however this got blocked by the most profilic players already having filled up their CPS. Claimed his role on D2, basically replacing his mafia wincon with the town wincon. Decided they would kill eclipse on N2, and let them idle. I once again think this was sensible. Then gave up on D3 and had Snike sub in. I think Snike tried to profile himself as a Fool, but town didn't buy into it, and he was lynched.

Overall I think Psych played decently, and was the only one in his team doing so, though his downfall seems to have been his role claim.

Levity
It was a joy for me to see Levity play. She was also the only player whose role wasn't RNG'd, because I wanted to see her play a role I thought she'd enjoy playing. In any case, she played obvtown in-thread and went after Kenshiro beautifully. She won on N2 and outright deserved it. A nominee for overall MVP.

Awards:

Overall MVP: Levity
Town MVP: Paperblade
2nd town MVP: eclipse
Mafia MVP: Psych
Best upcoming player: Helios

[Snike]

See, the thing is, if we had mislynched Iris, I would be forced to kill BBM/Cam so that I wouldn't get my ass immediately lynched, maybe. If the virgin died the cop has another night to clean someone (I didn't know who the cop was exactly + hook flavor fucks me over), which leads to my loss on lylo. If the cop dies the virgin gets lynched for safety and I lose probably on mylo. If we mislynched Cam instead, I lose in a similar fashion. So i decided to speed the game up a bit in a sense with a bit of a long shot (fool). I was told Psych surrendered and subbed in so that you could have a proper endgame.

[Leder]

The last time I was an SK that had a chance of dying in a fight, I died in the first fight

[Bluedoom]

Bizz you were right, you would die if you only targeted a particular player.

Wow I can't believe I missed that spreadsheet. XD

[Leder]

that I initiated, phone hates me

So I was actually pretty convinced that I would die and since it looked like I would have died unless I found Kenshiro before the mass roleclaim phase, I fished like a motherfucker

[Leder]

Also lol marth ilu

[Psych]

Snike, my plan was to get a Shinori or Iris mislynch and kill Paper.



But yeah. I don't actually think my roleclaim was the problem. It was having the town lynch correctly every single day. I was extremely outnumbered early on.

[CT075]

I figured that 'the virgin' did basically what it usually does and it makes a nice mylo buffer

[Paperblade]

shinori policy vig

i need a list of policy vig targets for this site. so far i have impy & shinori, who else

Player slots that sub in/out

edit: Helios killing Kay also hurt, Psych

If Helios hadn't shot Kay for whatever reason, we would have had to lynch her Day 3, so you'd then kill me or something which would make it 4/1. A Cam lynch would have lost the game for the town at that point I believe (3/1 after lynch, 2/1 after you kill, and then they can't lynch)

double edit: also, I don't remember if I told scorri after she died or Kaoz this (I'm pretty sure I told someone this), but I unvoted her because her refusal to claim made me think she was either a power role or scum. I didn't say this in the thread because it's a big neon "Kill This User, Mafia" sign, but she died anyway

Edited by Paperblade, 23 July 2012 - 02:29 PM.

[Helios]

Hey now Paper didn't need to convince me to kill Kay, I was gonna do it anyway. In fact I was a lot more confident Kay was scum than Strawman, so I knew I wouldn't miskill. Since I knew Bizz was going to kill me I wanted to make sure I left off on a good note and didn't screw the town over. That was some bad luck that I told Bizz who I was though even though I assumed she was the SK. Oh well town still won.

[BBM]

IIRC you told me your suspicions that Scorri was either a PR or scum, Paper.

[Paperblade]

ah okay

[eclipse]

Excellen, please define "more obvtown".

[Gyarados]

Excellen, please define "more obvtown".

I'm not too sure myself but being cryptic less often would be a good start.