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#121 BBM

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:27 AM

7.31 for Gengar

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:30 AM

Day 41: Onix

Remember that Steelix is not counted!

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:50 AM

With Onix's stats, the first thing that you see is that massive defense. But... that's about it. It's one of the weakest Pokemon in the game, and it's low HP doesn't help it on the physical side, while also making it even more weak to special attacks. Onix's attacks hurt about as much as dropping a ping pong ball on your foot. It's a defensive Pokemon with possibly the worst typing for a defensive Pokemon. Not to mention it's gym performance. It joins before Erika, and if you use Onix in that battle stop playing Pokemon. It's not good against Koga either since three of his Pokemon are immune to Dig (which is the strongest STAB it gets without the Earthquake TM or the Move Tutor for Rock Slide). Sabrina is again, terrible for Onix. I guess it's OK against Blaine, and the Ground-type weakness keeps it out of Giovanni's battle.

As for the Elite Four, Onix shouldn't be facing any of them, for a few reasons. First of all, it's either weak to their type (Lorelei and Bruno), they use special types (Lance), the opposing Pokemon are outright immune to Earthquake (4 of Agatha's Pokemon) or a combination of those. For Gary, it's probably only going to wall Pidgeot and be a stumbling stone for Charizard/Arcanine. That's it.

0.2 - One of the worst Pokemon in this game.



#124 TheVinceKnight

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 04:01 AM

Onix should be more recognised.

..Nah.

I agree with Lucina.

I'll be a bit more generous though. 0.25.

#125 Espinosa

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:56 AM

Kinda like Graveler, except dealing noticeably less damage and requiring more important TMs and tutors to work. Lower base HP makes him even worse than Graveler at eating resisted special attacks like Flamethrowers and Fire Blasts. Being faster than Graveler, however, means outspeeding more and higher defence means requiring less potions than Graveler would ask for. Still, even with Rock Slide and, much later, Earthquake and Double-Edge (which it can use without hurting itself), it will often be unable to OHKO things it can't hit super-effectively. With rock/ground coverage you should find plenty of chances to exploit the weaknesses of things assuming the aforementioned TM/tutor investment. Onix is helpful against Koga, Blaine (where it struggles to survive consecutive fire-type STABs) and Agatha, as the old woman's Pokemon rely entirely on physical attacks. Onix is fairly safe when up against most Lance's Pokemon, as Gyarados does not run any water-type moves. Good luck tanking those Dragonair's Outrages when all you have is Screech and Earthquake. It really does take time for Onix to kill things, and you'll be spending turns trying to Screech your targets before you can deal substantial damage to them, and Screech is inaccurate like most other moves Onix will be using. This makes Onix pretty inefficient even when it's safe to switch into like a half of the enemies you meet (usually ones easily dealt with by anything else). 2.5/10

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:19 AM

Oh god, it's like a Rock GOd took a shit.

.5/10.

Really, really bad in 3rd gen.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 09:37 PM

1/10. It has good defense, but that's about it. It doesn't help that it's a defensive Pokemon with one of (if not THE worst) typings a defensive Pokemon could have.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:25 AM

With Onix's stats, the first thing that you see is that massive defense. But... that's about it. It's one of the weakest Pokemon in the game, and it's low HP doesn't help it on the physical side, while also making it even more weak to special attacks. Onix's attacks hurt about as much as dropping a ping pong ball on your foot. It's a defensive Pokemon with possibly the worst typing for a defensive Pokemon. Not to mention it's gym performance. It joins before Erika, and if you use Onix in that battle stop playing Pokemon. It's not good against Koga either since three of his Pokemon are immune to Dig (which is the strongest STAB it gets without the Earthquake TM or the Move Tutor for Rock Slide). Sabrina is again, terrible for Onix. I guess it's OK against Blaine, and the Ground-type weakness keeps it out of Giovanni's battle.

As for the Elite Four, Onix shouldn't be facing any of them, for a few reasons. First of all, it's either weak to their type (Lorelei and Bruno), they use special types (Lance), the opposing Pokemon are outright immune to Earthquake (4 of Agatha's Pokemon) or a combination of those. For Gary, it's probably only going to wall Pidgeot and be a stumbling stone for Charizard/Arcanine. That's it.

0.2 - One of the worst Pokemon in this game.

This is my vote, so Onix gets a 0.78

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:27 AM

Day 42: Drowzee/Hypno

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 02:23 PM

Lost its special attack after gen 1, but is available very early and comes with Confusion right off the bat, bracing itself for a large portion of the game where psychic-type moves are really handy to have. Compared to Kadabra, Hypno is noticeably slower and doesn't hit as hard, but has no stage where combat is entirely absent; however, its bulk (especially special bulk) gives it an opportunity to survive the blows Kadabra wouldn't be withstanding when it fails to secure OHKOs of its own (which technically shouldn't be happening if you're using such a frail glass cannon). Hypno's offence is mediocre, but comparable to something like Clefable or Nidoqueen, and what one should remember is that early Psychic it doesn't require a TM to learn. It's also a candidate for Calm Mind but lacks the special coverage (not counting the elemental punches you can get via breeding).

Hypno's a good Pokemon against Koga, Sabrina (Psych Up if they use Calm Mind and hit them with your best physical moves and/or Psychic after Psyching Up), Giovanni's dual-poisons and a good portion of the E4, though it doesn't appreciate being hit with Shadow Ball. You could even give it Brick Break so that it can face more Magnetons and Raticate without getting itself hurt, as its phys and spec attack are actually equal (nothing will quite match Psychic in dealing damage reliably though).

7/10

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 02:49 PM

Underrated pokemon. Excellent Special Defence and surprisingly decent HP and Defence mean it is a a Psychic type that does't actually die in one hit. Which is good, because it is quite slow.

Average attacking stats at best. Psychic has good coverage, and hurts Erika, Koga and Giovanni's Poison types. It can learn Shadow Ball and actually has decent enough Attack to use it, which works well against Sabrina. Brick Break is also an option.

One of the best pokemon that people generally forget about. Gonna give a 7.5 here.

#132 thedominator12345

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 09:31 AM

3.5/10 It doesn't have stringshot.

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Posted 30 August 2012 - 10:11 AM

[quote name='BigBangMeteor' date='22 August 2012 - 12:27 PM' timestamp='1345656454' post='2103251']
Day 42: Drowzee/Hypno
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for all u brosephs out there i gotta say that i would rate him a 2.6 cause it doesn't have enough swag to be used

#134 Aquaman

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:18 PM

4.5/10

Too slow bro.

#135 Espinosa

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Posted 22 September 2012 - 12:24 PM

I think the last two were joke ratings...

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Posted 28 September 2012 - 03:18 AM

/me casts revive

It's an underrated Pokemon. First of all, Psychic-type means it has no need for coverage (which is good, because it doesn't get any) due to hitting everything but Magneton for neutral damage. But as weird as Hypno looks, it's stats are equally as weird, 73 Attack is pretty high for a Psychic, and... 73 Special Attack is pretty low for a Psychic. >.< It won't hit as hard on the special side as things like Starmie, Exeggutor and Alakazam, but Hypno here is as close to a Psychic Slayer as you'll get due to it's base attack and access to Shadow Ball alongside its massive special defense. It's basically the best thing to use against Sabrina, and utility against Eirika/Koga isn't too bad either.

7/10 - Really not that bad. It just wants stronger Psychics.






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