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#21 Sangyul

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:24 PM

More like the people running the RTUs not accepting half of the votes because they personally didn't agree with them.


You're exaggerating, you know. There were some threads that were controversial than others, but on average I doubt more than one or two votes (if at all) were thrown out. If you want a direct answer on why certain votes were thrown out, you should question Lucina directly.

#22 bottlegnomes

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 05:25 PM

Volke's not the Firefighter. He's the Fireman.


Fireman = firefighter.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:05 PM

I didn't participate in this, but there is something that bothers me every time I look at this.

I would suggest changing all the jokes on the list to normal. If a new player browses this, they won't understand the jokes, may not know who Volke, Kurthnaga, or Bastian are supposed to be, an will think Oliver is much better than normal.

#24 I don't play for turns

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:20 PM

How could you not rate Mufasa higher. He was Simba's freaking father! 10/10

On a serious note, Kieran and haar should be somewhat closer together, considering how similar they are statistically. Haar will be slightly better in most categories, and has better availability, and Wyvern>Horse, but I don't really think that justifies a 5.1 difference.

#25 Merry Sioux

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:29 PM

Ranulf- 5.14
Soren- 5.45
Micaiah- 6.50
Tibarn- 6.59
Calill- 6.59


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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:36 PM

I didn't participate in this, but there is something that bothers me every time I look at this.

I would suggest changing all the jokes on the list to normal. If a new player browses this, they won't understand the jokes, may not know who Volke, Kurthnaga, or Bastian are supposed to be, an will think Oliver is much better than normal.

As for your first statement, RTU's are honestly a joke and their results shouldn't be taken seriously. Opportunities for bias points really do skew the rankings, so if you're wanting to know how good a unit is, asking someone who knows the game well is the best way to do so (in this case, talk to PKL if you're wondering how good a unit is in RD).

As for Oliver, considering that votes are out of 10, that should raise a red flag.


@Psycho Silver: All bias. Calill got a fair bit of positive bias points, whereas Ranulf and Soren got quite a few negative bias points.

As for how she tied with Tibarn, I have no idea.



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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

Even with the bias, Calill was still overrated. She should be about between Makalov and Kieran.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:46 PM

As for Oliver, considering that votes are out of 10, that should raise a red flag.


@Psycho Silver: All bias. Calill got a fair bit of positive bias points, whereas Ranulf and Soren got quite a few negative bias points.

As for how she tied with Tibarn, I have no idea.

Any reason why there's a huge gap between Tanith and Sigrun?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:19 PM

As for your first statement, RTU's are honestly a joke and their results shouldn't be taken seriously.



This is coming from the guy who wouldn't accept my joke votes? What the hell?

#30 Red Fox of Fire

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:45 PM

Fireman = firefighter.

In common terms, but this is a title. He's not a literal fireman/firefighter (such a job distinction likely doesn't even exist in Tellius), so one is wrong while the other is correct.

Yes, this is the most important thing in this topic to me.

#31 fuzz94

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:46 PM

Haar is number one? Titania is two? Ike is three?

Perfect :)

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:53 PM

no you're wrong oliver is number one

da bootifulest. Beauty > Eyepatch

#33 bottlegnomes

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:46 PM

In common terms, but this is a title. He's not a literal fireman/firefighter (such a job distinction likely doesn't even exist in Tellius), so one is wrong while the other is correct.

Yes, this is the most important thing in this topic to me.


Fair enough. Sadly, it's just as important as anything else in this topic.

#34 Merry Sioux

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 08:59 PM

I thought Volke's title was a mistranslation and he was supposed to be called "The Extinguisher" instead?

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:21 PM

Oh great, Aeine's complaining about everything. I've mostly just lurked, but all you've done is complain, complain, and complain ignorantly. Please just shut it, the world doesn't revolve around you, and you exaggerate everything way too much.

#36 bottlegnomes

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:57 PM

I thought Volke's title was a mistranslation and he was supposed to be called "The Extinguisher" instead?


That is his Japanese name, but whether the translators made a mistake or changed it intentionally is unknown.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:15 PM

I kind of want to do a votal featuring the more active voters' votes grouped together. Then you'll all know how inconsistent you all are, including myself. Don't have the time though...

#38 Constable Reggie

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:48 PM

Nephenee's ass brings all the bias. If she gets the part 2 bexp I disagree that Nephenee can't compare to the GMs. She could move lower, though, but so could Zihark. Around Mordecai's score seems better for both of them.


Does she really deserve all the Part 2 exp, though? I mean, an entire part of bexp is quite a big resource just for someone to be on par with the Greil Golems. It'd be like dumping all your Part 1 exp on Ilyana so she can become par with Part 3 chars. We could dump all our Part 2 exp on Mordecai and make him useful, but I digress.

Also, imo, Nephenee doesn't compare much to Zihark at all. Nephenee isn't really that important in Part 3, while Zihark pretty much replaces Edward as a frontline fighter with earth affinity, along with Volug and Nolan. This difference is bigger especially in hard mode.

#39 Red Fox of Fire

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:05 AM

I thought Volke's title was a mistranslation and he was supposed to be called "The Extinguisher" instead?

Stuff changes in localization all the time. Some things like changing Brad to Aran seem pointless, but they probably figured "Fireman" sounded better for his character than "Extinguisher" and wasn't too far off the literally-translated name. And I'd agree.

#40 bottlegnomes

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 12:41 AM

Stuff changes in localization all the time. Some things like changing Brad to Aran seem pointless, but they probably figured "Fireman" sounded better for his character than "Extinguisher" and wasn't too far off the literally-translated name. And I'd agree.


Personally, I like The Extinguisher better. To extinguish means to bring to an end. Fireman implies that he works with fire of some form, whether it's shooting something or actual flames. Volke obviously doesn't do either. The Extinguisher just seems more fitting.




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