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#61 Doga Blockovich

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:44 PM

Jesus Christ, a dragon just came out of nowhere on map 17 and wrecked my shit. :(

That's Rakis for you.

You're not forced to kill Kernel though.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:42 AM

Jesus Christ, a dragon just came out of nowhere on map 17 and wrecked my shit. :(


And I'm shocked that this game gets ignored/unknown by many.
Even though it's as good as FE's 1-5, and 10 and infinitely better than all of the GBA titles and FE9. Can't wait to see TRS2 get a translation. =)

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:50 AM

Map 18? That map can be annoying. Lots of summoned monsters, Long-range attacks. oh yeah, I OHKO'd Barbaross using Estelle :D


And for a moment I thought that he was a boss that isn't meant to be killed by you. And yes Estelle is awesome. She sucks for awhile, but upon a level 20 promotion along with a Salia bible, she's a game breaking character. Gets well balanced stats upon class change bible, or not. And I usually give her the Chapter 8 Agi+ Potion. =) Don't need it, but it makes her even better.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 08:27 AM

Narron is the man. His promotion is along the same lines as Asvel from Thracia, meaning broken as hell. He wasn't turning out particularly spectacular actually, but...HOLY SHIT DID HIS STATS ALMOST DOUBLE JUST NOW?!

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:21 AM

Narron is the man. His promotion is along the same lines as Asvel from Thracia, meaning broken as hell. He wasn't turning out particularly spectacular actually, but...HOLY SHIT DID HIS STATS ALMOST DOUBLE JUST NOW?!


I hope that you've promoted him at 10, or 11.
He won't learn the dead slash skill if he isn't promoted before LV12. Otherwise you can teach him the skill at Map 30 in one of the skill tutor houses. With his Elite skill, he will need a Super Proof to be able to reach 40.

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#66 Polaris

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:42 AM

I hope that you've promoted him at 10, or 11.
He won't learn the dead slash skill if he isn't promoted before LV12. Otherwise you can teach him the skill at Map 30 in one of the skill tutor houses. With his Elite skill, he will need a Super Proof to be able to reach 40.


Oh dear. I promoted him at 15.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:47 AM

A question, does using Zeek and getting him experience affect his level/stats when you fight him later on?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:51 AM

A question, does using Zeek and getting him experience affect his level/stats when you fight him later on?


For the first time. Yes.

Oh dear. I promoted him at 15.

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I've actually made that same mistake in my first run too. I've actually started the entire game over for this as I've promoted him by Chapter 9 at 20.
But I've found out after the run that you can also teach him the skill in Map 30 in one of the tutor houses. You can still get him to learn this skill at Map 30 then. Be sure to put Narron in Holmes' group during the second route split. Right after Bridge Of Seal in Holmes' route. (After Map 23)

EDIT: Maraju should promote at 19, so he can learn a new skill that only he can learn before he hits LV20 in his promoted class. Everyone else should promote at 20 if possible. Here is a character FAQ to show who is good and when they should promote. =)

http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/476124-tearring-saga/faqs/33435

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EDIT:

I've also found out the exact odds of obtaining a special spoil from this list by looking it up on pegasusknight.com

http://www.pegasusknight.com/mb/ts1/dt_randitem.html

The odds of obtaining the spoil is....

-----[ SPECIAL SPOILS ]-----

They will drop from some respective units after you've killed them.
HOWEVER, THE CHANCE IS RANDOM N' VERY LOW!

- Lunar Swd: from Dark Cavaliers.
- Dragon Spr: from Dark Infantries.
- Solar Swd: from Armored Skeletons.
- Iron Sld: from Skeletons.
- Stellar Swd: from Black Golems.
- Moonlight: from Yellow Golems.
- Dragon Ax: from Yellow Ogres.
- Repair Hammer: from Green Ogres.
- Dragon Bow: from Dragon Corpses.
- Death: from Witches.
- Herb: from Zombies n' Mummies.
- Fruit: from Eye Splitballs.
- Amulet: from Harpies.
- Gold Bag: from Gargoyles.

Defeat the enemy may be able to access the item with a probability of 1/200 after the battle.


Edited by 曼, 29 July 2012 - 10:32 AM.


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:01 PM

The odds of obtaining the spoil is....

-----[ SPECIAL SPOILS ]-----

They will drop from some respective units after you've killed them.
HOWEVER, THE CHANCE IS RANDOM N' VERY LOW!

- Lunar Swd: from Dark Cavaliers.
- Dragon Spr: from Dark Infantries.
- Solar Swd: from Armored Skeletons.
- Iron Sld: from Skeletons.
- Stellar Swd: from Black Golems.
- Moonlight: from Yellow Golems.
- Dragon Ax: from Yellow Ogres.
- Repair Hammer: from Green Ogres.
- Dragon Bow: from Dragon Corpses.
- Death: from Witches.
- Herb: from Zombies n' Mummies.
- Fruit: from Eye Splitballs.
- Amulet: from Harpies.
- Gold Bag: from Gargoyles.


I once got the Luna Sword through Arena by battling a Dark Knight, I was trying to make lots of Gold. I also got 3 items at once using Meriah's Aura Rain at Map 37 or 38? in the map where Runan receives Seiken Reeve. Anyway, the 3 items I got were Dragon Arrow, Stellar Sword, and Moonlight. The only item I haven't got is Death and Solar Sword.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:03 PM

I got an amulet from a harpy :0

I was wondering why it didn't revive it.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:11 PM

Harpies doesn't have the amulet on its inventory. It has a random chance of dropping the item.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:28 PM

Ugh, according to some other people there's a game freeze on Map 19 that's only skippable if you play on a Japanese file. Since I'm playing this on Psp and there's no seperate save file for my game, I'm afraid I might be stuck. :(

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:40 PM

Harpies doesn't have the amulet on its inventory. It has a random chance of dropping the item.


Exactly. I figured that.

Which is why it didn't revive it.

Ugh, according to some other people there's a game freeze on Map 19 that's only skippable if you play on a Japanese file. Since I'm playing this on Psp and there's no seperate save file for my game, I'm afraid I might be stuck. :(


I don't know about PSP emulatiors, but the hard save should work if you switch the game. Since this is a PS1 game, the emulator should have a separate thing for save cards. (At least mine does?) It may load the saves by filename, so make sure the patched and unpatched versions have the same name.

If you can use savestates, switch to japanese and load the savestate from the patched version, beat the boss, make a new savestate, switch back, load the patched version.

Edited by L95, 29 July 2012 - 04:52 PM.


#74 Constable Galeforce

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 05:12 PM

I don't think I"m using an emulator, since the method I use for Ps1 games is permanently changing the ISO into an Eboot file, which the Psp recognizes instantly (probably since Ps1 games are buyable on psn). Again, I'm not too sure, I may be wrong.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:53 PM

I have some questions about this game too, but they aren't as deep as the TC's.

Mainly, I'm just curious to what I should know before playing this game, because I don't know anything about it and I don't want to screw myself off later.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

I don't think I"m using an emulator, since the method I use for Ps1 games is permanently changing the ISO into an Eboot file, which the Psp recognizes instantly (probably since Ps1 games are buyable on psn). Again, I'm not too sure, I may be wrong.


How does a PSP handle PS1 save files? If it uses 'memory cards', like the PS3, you should be able to switch the game file. Since the patch should only have text changes, and nothing that would make it not load a save from a patched version.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 09:45 PM

Mainly, I'm just curious to what I should know before playing this game, because I don't know anything about it and I don't want to screw myself off later.

Can you be more precise about what you wish to know?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:58 PM

I don't think I"m using an emulator, since the method I use for Ps1 games is permanently changing the ISO into an Eboot file, which the Psp recognizes instantly (probably since Ps1 games are buyable on psn). Again, I'm not too sure, I may be wrong.

Where's the save file for the game stored? As long as you can get the untranslated, converted file to load the save still, you should be fine. If in doubt, copy the save-file.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 11:17 PM

Alright, so after a bit of research I found out the save file does exist somewhere else. Problem? It was under the Tearring Saga Code number, and (get this) with a completely unrelated picture.


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So I do think I"ll be able to get past the freeze point by simply replacing the translation Eboot with a clean one. Thanks for the help everyone.

Edited by Davinatorman, 29 July 2012 - 11:17 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:15 AM

I once got the Luna Sword through Arena by battling a Dark Knight, I was trying to make lots of Gold. I also got 3 items at once using Meriah's Aura Rain at Map 37 or 38? in the map where Runan receives Seiken Reeve. Anyway, the 3 items I got were Dragon Arrow, Stellar Sword, and Moonlight. The only item I haven't got is Death and Solar Sword.


So far got a mehish spoil in Map 21. As I've got a Gold Bag upon defeaing some Gargoyles there. And the Steller Sword is good because it doubles EXP and Runan can possibly get well trained with this.




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