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[Celice]

Soft-patching is when you have both file names the same, and the emulate patches the game as it's loaded into the RAM. This would be 'fe3.smc' and 'fe3.ips' as an example. The changes only exist while the names are the same, with no affect on the actual data.

Hard-patching is when you directly apply the patch to the ROM file, changing the data itself. It will always be changed, unless you apply a reversion patch to negate said-changes. Generally, this can be "fool-proof" in that the only error is if the patch was incorrectly applied or wrong.

Edited by Celice, 26 June 2009 - 07:02 PM.

[VincentASM]

It might be a good idea to describe "how" the patch isn't working. There are only two ways in which it doesn't work though.

1. The game is still in Japanese. This points to either soft-patching isn't working (i.e your emulator doesn't support soft-patching or the ROM and patch names aren't actually set to be the same), you're patching the wrong file or you're loading the wrong file to play.

2. The game has been modified, but something doesn't work properly, eg. it freezes at the beginning or at a later point. This means you've patched the game, but patched it incorrectly somehow. It could be a header issue, a ROM compatability issue (eg. different versions of the same game, different language versions) or you could be using a zip/rar/7z file as a patch...

[Levant Fortner]

It might be a good idea to describe "how" the patch isn't working. There are only two ways in which it doesn't work though.

1. The game is still in Japanese. This points to either soft-patching isn't working (i.e your emulator doesn't support soft-patching or the ROM and patch names aren't actually set to be the same), you're patching the wrong file or you're loading the wrong file to play.

2. The game has been modified, but something doesn't work properly, eg. it freezes at the beginning or at a later point. This means you've patched the game, but patched it incorrectly somehow. It could be a header issue, a ROM compatability issue (eg. different versions of the same game, different language versions) or you could be using a zip/rar/7z file as a patch...

It's the first one. And I set the ROM and patch names to be the same. Also, what are the steps to hard-patching, again? And since you mentioned it, what file am I supposed to be trying to patch? I did it once, but forgot...

Edited by Jonathan Aulin, 27 June 2009 - 07:52 AM.

[VincentASM]

Can you print screen the folder that holds your ROM and patch files?

To hard patch, you need to download a patching program like LunarIPS, IPSWin, etc.

[Levant Fortner]

Can you print screen the folder that holds your ROM and patch files?

To hard patch, you need to download a patching program like LunarIPS, IPSWin, etc.

I have no idea how to print screen.

I already have IPSWin.

[VincentASM]

There should be a Print Screen button on your keyboard. It's typically near the very top right. You just press that (or CTRL + Print Screen) and then paste the image onto Paint or some other image editing program.

If you have IPSWin, just open it and do what it says : P

[Levant Fortner]

There should be a Print Screen button on your keyboard. It's typically near the very top right. You just press that (or CTRL + Print Screen) and then paste the image onto Paint or some other image editing program.

If you have IPSWin, just open it and do what it says : P

OK.

I already did what IPSWin said. The issue with that is that the game is still in Japanese. Could it be my emulator...?

[VincentASM]

It shouldn't be your emulator.

Are you definitely loading the right game? Is it the main dialogue that's still in Japanese?

In any case, a print screen might come in handy. Might.

[Levant Fortner]

It shouldn't be your emulator.

Are you definitely loading the right game? Is it the main dialogue that's still in Japanese?

In any case, a print screen might come in handy. Might.

The title screen's still in Japanese.

[VincentASM]

Did you check the main dialogue though?

I know the really old versions of the FE6 patch still have the Japanese logos, if that's what you're referring to. I don't think you would be able to find them though o__o

[Levant Fortner]

Did you check the main dialogue though?

I know the really old versions of the FE6 patch still have the Japanese logos, if that's what you're referring to. I don't think you would be able to find them though o__o

I remember patching it once to get it into English, and the dialogue that popped up on the screen before the title screen wasn't there. Is that the main dialogue?

[Celice]

... Did you attempt to start the game and play by moving your units around, by reading the actual game script, by looking in menus past the first five seconds the game is on...?

[Private Prinny]

I want to play FE 4 and FE 5 on my PSP with the SNES Emulator SnesPSP_TYL v0.4.2.

I (hard-)patched the roms as instructed (I already patched several FE 6,7 and 8 Roms with hacks so at least I know what to do in basic terms)
I used the patches from here (SF)

FE 5 does indeed start up on my PSP.

FE4 gives me a blank screen upon start (also on ZNES).

Did someone else also encounter this problem?
Can someone confirm that there is indeed the possibility to play FE4 translated on SnesPSP_TYL v0.4.2?
(Or another SNES Emulator for PSP or DS?)


On a side note: The Tranlsatzion patch for FE5 state that it is 90% finished.

I get a translated story/event text, but upon openening the unit menues most of the stats are gibberish and really not helpful.
Is it only me, or is this part of the still not translated 10%?

Many thanks for your help (^^)=b

Oh and if someone asks why the trouble playing on PSP or DS...I am a portable gamer to the core. I am commuting via Bus 2,5 hours every day.....so there is not much time left to play at home in the evenings hence the PSP / DS

[VincentASM]

So FE4 doesn't even start up properly on your PC when patched? If so, I suggest adding/subtracting (I can never remember which one it is) the header using SNESTool or WindHex and then patching.

FE5's stats are indeed untranslated - I think they're compressed so it makes them troublesome to edit. I don't think it matters that much since the personal stats have the English graphics next to them (Str, Skl etc.). If you need help with the other stats, you could always ask (and you can either memorise them or jot them done on a notepad or something).

Edited by VincentASM, 19 July 2009 - 08:10 AM.

[Colonel M]

I'm having issues with Thracia myself. Do I have to extract the files in order for it to work?

[Generic Operator]

If you are using Snes emulator for CPU

Extract the rom file from the zip file to the folder where your emulator is.

Extract the patch from the zip file to the folder where your rom file will be.

Rename the translation patch to be the exact name of your rom file. (right click the rom file go to rename and copy the name and rename the translation patch and paste it)

It should work unless if you are having a different problem.

Edited by Jason W., 16 August 2009 - 10:46 PM.

[VincentASM]

What are these issues?

Does the game just load a black screen, or does it load but the game is still in Japanese, or does it actually display English text properly, but some graphics are a bit distorted?

In any case, extracting the files would be the safest approach, definitely. Why wouldn't you want to do it? It's not like you're saving much space o__o

[Colonel M]

Usually it would translate right if it was in the .zip file. I'll try extracting them and see what happens.

BTW the first two scenarios usually happen.

Edited by Colonel M, 17 August 2009 - 09:26 AM.

[Colonel M]

K so here's the problem. There are 3 patches inside the folder and all 3 are required. Now of course I cannot rename all 3 of those files the same name as Fire Emblem Thracia 776. Which means I'll probably have to hard-patch it. Now do I run the ROM under all 3 patches then, one at a time?

[VincentASM]

Halt!

You only need to apply one of the three patches : P