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  1. don't even wait for him to talk in lylo, just lynch him on the spot
  2. you should ALWAYS be paranoid about shinori and if it's lylo and he's alive, ALWAYS lynch him. no exceptions
  3. my feeling about kirsche is that I haven't really agreed with his cases much but I've felt that he hasn't really been playing much to scum meta? he's not tunneling as much as i would expect and he seems more willing to re-evaluate stuff. i actually don't think it's a good idea to give you a reads list before you catch up, sorry sully. one of the main advantages of being a sub is that you can approach the game with fresh eyes and maybe catch something that people who've been immersed in the game miss. giving you a reads list would bias you towards/against those people. man wtf happened to walrein he was my strongest townread through the first 24 hours rip. prolly going to be my next reread although i am suspicious of weapons somewhat i will admit part of my read is just that i think everyone else other than jb has been townier. #d2poe
  4. sully, does your role just check if someone has actions (so if they have a passive role vs an active role)? in that case I can see some use because sully could target marth for example to clarify whether or not he has an action? i think scum are more likely to have at least some active components to their role (although having an active component doesn't make you scum)
  5. very glad I wasn't here for the weapons stuff. i do agree with via that he's doing a lot of that kind of stuff this game, more than normal. but then when he's posted content it's been decent? :weary: wouldn't actually mind voting there but for now ##Vote: Jaybee post has links instead of quotes cuz jb's posts are large I think I covered why his initial posts voting Fable weren't great. Just felt like he jumped on something that was obviously "bad" and didn't really talk about anything else, even as he was pushing Fable for not doing so. and then when he comes back later his Fable unvote felt weird because there wasn't really any sort of progression? he just unvotes without saying why and then never talks about Fable again. this reinforces my feeling that this vote was very opportunistic. this post right after isn't very good. it's implied in this post due to this question to refa that he still finds fable suspicious, but he never actually looks at fable's posts. kind of makes me feel like he dropped it because he was getting flak for it. i dislike the eclipse bit because he's attacking her play and saying he doesn't know what to make of it even though he concludes by saying she's town. kirsche bit is similarly waffly and I don't think it was even true. bit on bartozio is ~okay~ but also waffly and worded as a pressure vote because it would be more valuable than a zeus vote. last part feels strange because he hadn't talked about zeus at all. weapons stuff is fine though. this is probably his best post but there's still stuff i don't like. the stuff on marth's claim is just... wrong and I think several people pointed it out and he keeps saying it in subsequent posts regardless so idk what was going on there. the bit on eclipse is decent but it's kind of a departure from his earlier read on her and feels like a recurring problem with his play where his cases seem to be heavily based on just one post. it was like that with fable and bartozio (initially anyways) too. i think his reasoning for staying on bartozio here is reasonable.
  6. @Sully- ??? what's so suspicious about kirsche "doing something". everyone has a role and most of them are probably active. 16/5/1 is probably about right for numbers though, yeah. @snike- ehh the bartozio cases weren't really made at that point, before the first two of htose athena posts, and the bit about bartozio messing up his claim had just happened. i think it's an okay progression.
  7. wait actually I forgot I was reading athena's end of day posts again bc of what Snike said. snike can you point out where he flip-flipped on bart for distancing? it looks like he wasn't really suspecting bart that much but voted him at the end for not-me-over-me which makes sense to me.
  8. going to read jaybee next; he's basically my only suspicion left from d1. i was going to read him after junko/nightmare but got distracted by the claim. i'm inclined to think nightmare is town? at the least I wouldn't lynch him yet because either the maf will kill him or he'll get himself killed through his role if he's town. and if he's scum they'll have to pick suboptimal kills to give him plausible fake targets. the cases on junko aren't very convincing and I don't suspect him at the moment. but I'm not specifically townreading him.
  9. macho martyr makes perfect sense because that way the martyr can't be docced, so you prevent protective role circlejerking. however missing it is a kind of big omission which would make sense if it was a fake. ughhh idk
  10. the "scumslip" is that the role PMs are worded: "In other words, you are the <insert role> You are a member of the Upright..." whereas nightmare implied it was all one line. but i don't think this is a scumslip because there's a sample town role PM on the first page and it's probably worded the same way for scum too.
  11. I was hoping the kill would be me tbh even though nobody was townreading me. mafia is misery. alternatively I was hoping it would be refa so it would be like a N1 death by proxy. I don't disagree with the Nightmare cases. I think everything people pointed out about flaws in his play is correct. I just don't know how much weight to give to any of it when Nightmare hasn't played in so long. the nightmare claim :weary:
  12. not feeling the Junko case. maybe bc he was defending me but I think I agreed with a lot of what he said, even if I didn't necessarily agree with the interpretation. eg I agreed that kirsche was taking my actions out of context even if I didn't think he was scum. I also think that the bit about him tunneling is not reeally true for most of the day. I do think the vote became more of a park/tunnel near the end, but there was only one post that I really objected with: i think he's kind of dismissive of kirsche's content here, especially because kirsche says that he finds bibbon more suspicious than me (so putting her as a third suspicion) and the nightmare read doesn't seem like just pressure to me. I'd like to see more reads from Junko but yeah don't want to lynch him atm.
  13. whoops accidentally submitted the post too early. meant to say that eury was a weird kill given that she made only a handful of posts, even though I thought she was town. i probably need to reread some of the more obvtown people, sigh. alternatively she got killed for having good reads but I didn't read her posts very thoroughly so I don't even know what her reads were. anyways I was too busy/demotivated over N1 to reread and I'm not really feeling most of my D1 scumreads anymore for various reasons, so it might take me a bit to vote. Day 2 is the worst. I don't really see the point of voting Nightmare if he's subbing out. @Lord Gaius were you following along with the game at all?
  14. eh my character isn't really that related to role so in case you didn''t catch it when I said it at the start of the day, I'm Refa. I thought eury was town but given that she made only a handful of posts
  15. you have played on SF before haven't you fenrir? SF almost always requires a minimum amount of votes for a lynch. >1/3 is on the low side actually; lots of games need >1/2. also, what do you mean by vanity wagon? snike, are you implying your rolename is "Town Godfather" (effectively making you a miller to Rolecops)? if so, why didn't you claim that satsuma? bartozio if you're around and if you're town who would you lynch tomorrow? is athena actually your strongest scumread or was that a not-me-over-me?
  16. Fine with keeping my vote on bart. The role feels kind of like a scum implementation because for example if he gets inspected by a cop the cop would get hooked the next night so that gives scum some breathing room. I don't feel it's as useful for town because even if he gets killed by mafia it doesn't block the kill the next night; they would just have someone else take the kill. Compare to marth's role, where if he's shot, mafia basically lose a kill because it takes two nights to resolve.
  17. Marth's role is very easy to prove idk what you mean jb. Someone targets him n1, they probably get told their action was delayed, and marth tell us that they visited him on d2.
  18. My gut is that athena's role is one where one of the Co-Networkers is scum and the other is town but I think athena is town I also don't really feel like lynching bibbon anymore. I think her frustration sounded kinda town and i just got a feeling when I made that long post responding to her that i was trying to convince her she was scum and when I start doing that I'm probably talking to town. I think i just don't really like her and fable's playstyle and the feeling is mutual apparently. Would be down for JB TURBOWAGON tbh but i don't have the time to write a case and convince people. I should be back about 30 mins before phase end
  19. MREHHHH marth's role sounds more town I agree with refa. Marth do you see the people who tried to visit you on the first night, or do you see them on the second night when they actually target you? Not really down to turbo junko i haven't been reading a lot of him. My main impression is that he's been lurking but I didn't really have issues with most of what he was posting. ##Unvote, ##Vote: Bartozio I would rather do this than athena or zeus
  20. Agree with refa that bart's satsuma follow up is iffy. Don't have the time to follow up to check if athena actually did what bart is saying he did, but if he did then I do think there's scum intent there because pushing a lynch while saying someone is null is scummy. Athena vote from bart feels conveniently timed though I'm not really understanding why people think marth's junko case is acceptable. It's really crappy and based more on semantics of how junko was wording his sentences than junko actually being wishy-washy. i'm phoneposting so i cant go back and link my post detailing why but please go back and find it. I think that kirsche's junko content is a lot better than marths. To me at least that's more the reason I'm scumreading him, not him voting junko instead of someone else.
  21. i lied I didn't go to sleep yet. i'd probably be okay consolidating on bart above zeus and athena just cuz I think he's more likely to be scum due to vague gutvibes of his play being lurkier than normal and his main content being focused on easy targets, which reminds me of persona 5 mafia where he was scum. but I just don't feel like I have enough posts from him to be confident in a read, and I think from an interactions perspective his lynch wouldn't really generate as much.
  22. just wanted to get an idea of where the wagons were. satsuma wagon is outdated I think. there are a lot fewer votes on zeus than I would expect? it feels like the most suspected people are probably marth, athena, zeus, and bartozio. I think at least marth should claim once he gets on. people not voting one of those four people should probably give opinions on them and who they'd want to consolidate on. athena, why don't you like the marth wagon? i think i'll probably be around sporadically tomorrow before phase end but it'll be in between classes so yeah
  23. BBM DOES VOTALS BECAUSE THE MODS DONT Magnificence Incarnate (5): Walrein, eclipse, vi-astra, BBM Snike + SatsumaFSoySoy (3): Bartozio, Eurykins, Refa athena_57 (3): Snike + SatsumaFSoySoy, Shinori, WeaponsofMassConstruction Bartozio (2): Anime27Arts, Jaybee Junk (2): Zkirsche, Magnificence Incarnate zeus_112 (2): Bibbon, Fable Jaybee (1): Nightmare Zkirsche (1): Junk Shinori (1): Elieson Fable (1): zeus_112 Nightmare (1): athena57 Not Voting: EƤrendil You have ~12 hours and 45 minutes left in the day. With 22 alive, it takes 8 to lynch and 15 to hammer.
  24. bibbon, i know you're saying that you addressed weapons's change in read on athena but it doesn't feel to me like you did, and weapons felt the same way. can you quote the post where you said that or say it again bc I might have missed it. to me it looks like you're just saying that it doesn't look natural. but he shows evidence of rereading and is bringing up points to find athena scummy that he hadn't addressed earlier while finding athena scummy. also i think in context it seems like a weird time for scum!weapons to change his read on athena. i know a lot of people were expressing suspicion against him but it's not like there was a wagon to take advantage of.
  25. SHRUG bibbon is probably town whose playstyle annoys me i guess
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