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hey everyone; putting out a last call for signups. We're currently at 9/14 and I don't think there have been any new signups for the past several days. If I don't get to 14 by the end of the week I'll probably shelve the game for now and put signups up later when people are more available.

Rules (definitely not taken from SB): 1. This game is ANONYMOUS. Sign up over PM, Discord, etc, not in thread. 2. It is possible I've talked about elements of this setup when I didn't think I was going to run this game. If you remember anything, please tell me before signing up or sharing it with other players if you remember mid-game. 3. As the host, I have the ability to add, remove or modify these rules at any time. If a change is made, an announcement will be made in the game thread. 4. This game is NOC. Communicate in the game thread only, unless a host specifically tells you otherwise. 5. You may not speak during the night phase unless a host specifically tells you otherwise. 6. You may not speak to dead players. Do not speak to non-players who aren't listed as hosts/IOs. 7. Taking screenshots or quoting outside communications with the host, real or forged, will result in an instant modkill. This applies to Role PMs, night results and any other form of communication. 8. Do not edit your posts. If you somehow slip up with this, contact me immediately and tell me what you changed. 9. If you are modkilled by any fault of your own, you lose. 10. If you attempt to gain an advantage for your faction through your modkill, measures will be taken to prevent this from happening. 11. If you don't post for 24 hours, you will be prodded. After several prods I will attempt to sub you out or modkill you if that isn't possible. Please inform me ahead of time if you are going to be absent. 12. Be civil. If you feel as though things are getting out of hand, please contact me and I will handle the situation if necessary. Mechanics (also definitely not taken from SB): 1. This game takes place on an off-site forum with anonymous accounts. Each account will be named after the vigilante corresponding to their role. These are listed below. Players can ask for certain characters if they want (first come first serve). 2. This game starts on Day 1. 3. Day 1 will last 72 hours, and Day 2 and onward will be 48 hours, while nights last for 24 hours. These may be bent slightly for the sake of host convenience. 4. The player with the most votes at the end of the phase will be lynched. 1/3rd of the votes (rounded up) are required to lynch. 2/3rd of the votes (rounded down) hammers and ends phase early. Ties lead to a No Lynch. 5. No Lynch is a valid vote target. If two day phases end in No Lynch, the game will end in Universal Loss. 6. *YLO will not be announced. 7. You will be informed if you successfully targeted a player, and you will be informed if your action was redirected, and you will learn who your new target was. 8. To vote, use the following format: ##Vote: <USER> and to unvote use ##Unvote. 9. If 1/3 of the the living players ##Vote: Extension during a Day phase other than Day 1, the phase will be extended by 24 hours. This can only be done once. 10. Mafia members can communicate over Discord or other methods of their choice while they are alive, provided they do so through anonymous accounts. After they are dead, they cannot contribute to the discussion. 11. This game is cardflip, meaning that when a player dies, all that will be posted in the game thread will be their role and alignment (along with a pretty picture). Setup Information (really definitely not taken from SB): 1. There are 14 players in this game. All of them are on the playerlist. 2. There are exactly three factions in this game: the League of Vigilante Extremism (LoVE), the Red Assassination Team (RAT), and the Blue Assassination Team (BAT). 3. Every faction has the following win condition: You are allied with the ________. You win when all threats to them are eliminated. 5. There are no Vanillas in the game. 6. Flavour may correlate with role, but not with alignment. 7. Non-town players have been supplied with fakeclaims. 8. This is not a bastard game. Everything happens for a reason. 9. Death may not be the end. Available Characters: Signups: 9/14

Yeah I think I messed up with my NKs. Oh well.

also i will say that this game is probably more representative of my SK meta than my mafia meta since I had no buddies to interact with

I probably should have killed you over jester because I knew killing jester would make me look worse, but I thought I had a better shot of convincing you than Jester, bc he seemed more tunnel-y. i expected you to take a bit longer making up your mind but given how sure you were entering there wasn't really a point in playing it out. anyways the only reason this very townsided game was close was because shinori blindly hit sully and kaif missed two night actions. if shinori had killed baldrick or bartozio and kaif hadn't missed two night actions and not used one of the ones he did use on baldrick this game would have been over on d4 probably

eh icbf tbh ##Vote: @BBM the only person who lynches me is me

i'm actually not gonna be around very much today rip but I'll be around all day tomorrow probably

:weary: well I'm sure mine and Rad's opinions are clear Bart where's your head at atm?

well it's normally sf mafia convention for nobody to post between a hammer and when the host has time to flip but there's nothing in the rules so :dankpuff:

we can wait for go ahead from bart/jester ig but i'd prefer not dragging it on just waiting for kaif to respond cuz based on his activity he might just not post again

WHAT THE FUCK HOW DID I MISS THAT SULLY WAS A TRACKER I BLAME THE LACK OF BOLDING okay yeah kaif is mafia rolecop ##Unvote, ##Vote: @Kaif

wait what when did we have a Tracker flip? I don't remember that. If a Tracker flipped then Kaif is 100% scum

okay the first step is to complete the massclaim. if anybody else claims a role we lynch kaif I think.

but also like... if he's telling the truth town legit would have to have a fullcop and I literally cannot remember the last time there was a town fullcop in a game.

my first instinct is that kaif is bsing and didnt know the role meta on SF well enough to know that fullcop was impossible. but then i feel like he would have retconned it into a rolecop given all the questions I asked. but it's also possible he's a step ahead of that and was thinking that changing his claim would make it feel more like he was just saying whatever. idk gonna think about it for a while.

tbh now that i've explained it even if he says it was actually just "vanilla" i don't know if i buy it. should have asked before explaining bleh

my original understanding from kaif's post was that he just received "vanilla" as a result since SF convention is for goons to also scan as "vanilla" to rolecops, and then in light of the two mafia goon flips already, based on the fact that it's unlikely mafia has no roles whatsoever, took those vanilla scans to mean that xnad and baldrick were town. if he actually received "vanilla town" as a result this is 100% a fake.

i'm also vanilla fullcop is a super powerful role that hasn't been awarded to town forever. even when it was somewhat common it was always in large games where everybody had a role. there's no way a game where almost everybody is a vanilla randomly has a town fullcop

there's literally no way town has an unlimited fullcop

oh you already answered that question :weary: i see bart viewing the thread pls tell me what to do bart

why didnt you claim yesterday or defend xnad harder? no way all three scum are goons so a vanilla inspect was basically a clear.

having trouble deciding if there's no way scum can be this out of it or if kaif is purposely faking clueless town

gdi this is a scummy ass claim wrong number of nights second info role when we already had an oracle flip town rolecop even though both scum flips so far have been goon

oh it was this post i guess i also think his tone is town but i dont understand how you can say it based on this post where he votes the towniest person in the thread. MEH doesn't really matter I guess

idk maybe i'm being too critical of indecision with having the flips in mind. when you were grilling weiner at the beginning of the day what was your read on him? was it null trying to make up your mind or were you leaning scum? and why did you not really talk about him for like 25 posts? also, what's your read on kaif? i think you said yesterday that he was town based on some post but i cant find it in your iso. i do remember that I didnt get your reasoning.