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For the fifth week, we’re going to vote and dicuss on the best class for Charlotte, the surprisingly thoughtful warrior. I have seen people laud Charlotte’s characterization, so hopefully we can improve her value as a unit by selecting the best class for her! The format for this post is similar as that of the previous weeks: The following spoiler tags will mostly contain information regarding Charlotte. (The information regarding Marriage/Buddy Seals has been updated, as players have figured out more regarding their functions.) Certain information will be uploaded through the rest of the week. Feel free to look at what you need, and ignore what you don’t need. If you find mistakes within the information, please tell me so that I may correct it. Without further ado: Which is the best class for Charlotte? [spoiler=Marriage/Buddy Seals] Spoiler (Marriage/Buddy Seals) A Marriage/Buddy seal allows a unit to reclass into one of the select class trees of his spouse (S support) or buddy (A+ support). A unit may only achieve an S support with units of the opposite gender (exc. Kamui, Syalla, Zero), and may only achieve an A+ support with units of the same gender. (The credit for the following information goes to Gayserbeam, as I copied the wording of his explanation. Check out the Class Changing and Inheritance Thread for more information. If the user’s Primary Class is different than their Spouse’s/Buddy’s Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouse’s/Buddy’s Primary Class, even if the user has that class as a Secondary Class already. If the user’s Primary Class is the same as their Spouse’s/Buddy’s Primary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouse’s/Buddy’s Secondary Class. If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouse’s/Buddy’s Secondary Class. An unlearnable class is a class that may be unique to a character or their children. The following units have unlearnable classes: Nishiki (Fox Spirit), Flannel (Garou), Azura (Singer), Mozume (Villager). If the user is married or buddied with a unit who has an unlearnable class, and their Primary Class is the same as their Spouse’s/Buddy’s Secondary Class, then the Marriage/Buddy Seal will reclass them to the Spouse’s/Buddy’s Substitute Class. A Substitute Class is simply a select class a character with an unlearnable class passes down under certain circumstances. The following units have Substitute Classes: Nishiki (Herb Merchant), Flannel (Outlaw), Azura (Rod Knight), Mozume (Herb Merchant). If you’re still confused, let me use Charlotte as an example to try and clarify matters! Charlotte/Saizou: Charlotte’s Primary Class is Fighter, and Saizou’s is Ninja. Therefore, Charlotte would Marriage Seal into Ninja. Charlotte/Jakob: Charlotte’s Primary Class is Fighter, and Jakob’s is Rod Knight. Therefore, Charlotte would Marriage Seal into Rod Knight. As Charlotte’s Secondary Class is Rod Knight, she would not receive a new class tree from Jakob. Charlotte/Arthur: Charlotte’s Primary Class is Fighter, and Arthur’s is Fighter. Therefore, Charlotte would Marriage Seal into Arthur’s Secondary Class-- Cavalier. Charlotte/Nishiki: As Nishiki’s Primary Class is Fox Spirit, an unlearnable class, Charlotte would Marriage Seal into his Secondary Class-- Spellcaster. Charlotte/Flannel: Flannel’s Primary Class is Garou, an unlearnable class. Charlotte’s Primary Class is Fighter, and Flannel’s Secondary Class is Fighter. Therefore, Charlotte would Marriage Seal into his Substitute Class-- Outlaw. [spoiler=Rules, Notices, & Clarifications] Spoiler (Rules, Notices, & Clarifications) Rules Please be respectful! This is a huge given, but I still see people break it all the time. Don’t be arrogant-- your opinion is important, but hardly the end-all-- and please don’t be a troll. I don’t want these polls to serve only for people who have played the game. Therefore, please be careful with spoilers. As we’re discussing classes, I’m assuming that most people are fine with gameplay spoilers. However, this does not guarantee that people are fine with story spoilers as well, so if you must bring them up, make sure to tag them as spoilers. If you’re tagging story spoilers, leave an explanation. Many people may assume that you simply tagged it as a spoiler because it was a long post, or because it was related to gameplay. Clarify what exactly you’re tagging-- it doesn’t take that many words. Notices In the optional poll, Takumi placed second, and Camilla and Elise placed third. As such, Takumi will receive three additional votes, and Camilla and Elise will each receive one. Ryoma received only one vote and Benoit received none. Therefore, the two were eliminated from this week’s optional poll. As it has been proven that the forum does not wish to discuss them at the current moment, they have a waiting period of two weeks before they will be re-entered into the optional poll. As the victor, Charlotte has also been removed from this week’s optional poll. Sakura has been re-entered into the optional poll. If it is demonstrated once again that the forum is not interested in her, she will have a waiting period of four weeks before she will be re-entered into the optional poll. Flannel has been added into the optional poll. Clarification If you’re confused as to what this post is all about, refer to the original post. Week Four polls concerned Leo, Week Three polls concerned Felicia, Week Two polls concerned Silas, and Week One polls concerned Azura. We are discussing the end class for Charlotte. You are free to consider reclassing options along the way (just make sure to factor in the cost of reclassing for the Practicality polls), but your vote should be based on your predicted end class. We’re excluding DLC classes from the polls to preserve balance. However (considering last week), a DLC poll has been added for those interested in them. A DLC poll will not be included for shared characters, as there is space for only five questions. Children will not be introduced until the localized game is released, or we have gone through all of the first-generation characters. We’re ignoring any class options the Avatar may give to Charlotte, as it introduces too many new variables. There will not be Practicality polls for the Invisible Kingdom campaign. I limited the Optimization/Practicality poll options to the promoted classes. [spoiler=Possible Classes] Spoiler (Possible Classes) Classes in black are ones Charlotte can achieve in either the Nohr or Invisible Kingdom campaign. Classes in blue are ones Charlotte can only achieve in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Base Classes (3H, 8N, 11T) Cavalier Dark Mage Fighter Knight Mercenary Ninja Oni Savage Outlaw Rod Knight Spellcaster Wyvern Rider Promoted Classes (6H, 13N, 19T) Adventurer Basara Berserker Blacksmith Bow Knight Brave Hero Dark Knight Elite Ninja Exorcist General Great Knight Maid Paladin Puppeteer Revenant Knight Shura Sorcerer Strategist Wyvern Lord [spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes] Spoiler (Expansion of Possible Classes) Primary Base Class: Fighter Primary Promoted Classes: Berserker, Brave Hero Secondary Base Class: Rod Knight Secondary Promoted Classes: Maid, Strategist Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the spouses. I listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last. As Charlotte is a Nohr exclusive character, she can only marry the Hoshido characters in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Saizou: Ninja -> Elite Ninja, Puppeteer Nishiki: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist Arthur: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Benoit: Knight -> General, Great Knight Flannel: Outlaw -> Adventurer, Bow Knight Lazward: Mercenary -> Bow Knight, Brave Hero Leo: Dark Mage -> Dark Knight, Sorcerer Odin: Dark Mage -> Dark Knight, Sorcerer Xander: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Zero: Outlaw -> Adventurer, Bow Knight Jakob: n/a Kaze: Ninja -> Elite Ninja, Puppeteer Silas: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the buddies. I listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last. As Charlotte is a Nohr exclusive character, she can only marry the Hoshido characters in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Rinkah: Oni Savage -> Blacksmith, Shura Berka: Wyvern Rider -> Revenant Knight, Wyvern Lord Nyx: Dark Mage -> Dark Knight, Sorcerer Pieri: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin [spoiler=Basic Information (inc. Profile, Recruitment Conditions, Base Stats)] Spoiler (Basic Information (inc. Profile, Recruitment Conditions, Base Stats)) Profile Charlotte is a Nohrian fighter who’s a member of the border guards. She was born a commoner and dreams of marrying into high society. At first glance, she seems like a sweet and pure lady, but this is merely a cover-up for her true personality and a means to get men at her feet. She was born on May 4th, and is the best in fights. Recruitment Conditions Charlotte joins at the start of Turn 3 in Chapter 13 in the Nohr campaign. In the Invisible Kingdom campaign, she joins in Chapter 14 after talking with Elise. Base Stats Level: 10 HP: 28 Str: 15 Mag: 0 Skl: 10 Spd: 13 Lck: 9 Def: 8 Res: 2 Mov: 5 [spoiler=Maximum Stats] Spoiler (Maximum Stats) Charlotte adds +3 Str, +2 Spd, -2 Def, and -2 Res. [spoiler=Growth Rates] Spoiler (Growth Rates) Natural Growth Rates HP: 65 Str: 55 Mag: 0 Skl: 35 Spd: 50 Lck: 45 Def: 20 Res: 5 [spoiler=Pair Up Bonuses] Spoiler (Pair Up Bonuses) Natural Pair Up Bonuses C Support: Str +1 B Support: Str +2 A Support: Str +2, Spd +1 S Support: Str +3, Spd +2 [spoiler=Possible Skills] Spoiler (Possible Skills) Personal Skill: Woman’s Nature: When engaging a female enemy, Damage +4 and Critical Rate +20. Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike). Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Charlotte can acquire through her primary and secondary class trees are listed below. Descriptions of all the skills are located on the skills pages. Classes in black are ones Charlotte can achieve in either the Nohr or Invisible Kingdom campaign. Classes in blue are ones Charlotte can only achieve in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Base Class Skills Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue Dark Mage: Bind, Devilish Wind Fighter: HP +5, Roundhouse Knight: Defence +2, Confined Defence Mercenary: Stubbornness, Patient Assurance Ninja: Locktouch, Snake Venom Oni Savage: Resistance Seal, Shove Outlaw: Locktouch, Movement +1 Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Demoiselle Spellcaster: Magic +2, Fortune Wyvern Rider: Strength +2, Cut Through Promoted Class Skills Adventurer: Lucky Seven, Pass Basara: Breaking Sky, Flamboyant Berserker: Rally Strength, Axefaire Blacksmith: Smithy Skill, Lancebreaker Bow Knight: Rally Skill, Kunaibreaker Brave Hero: Sol, Axebreaker Dark Knight: Magic Seal, Lifetaker Elite Ninja: Lethality, Kunaifaire Exorcist: Rally Magic, Tomefaire General: Defensive Formation, Pavise Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike Maid: Servant’s Joy, Tomebreaker Paladin: Defender, Aegis Puppeteer: Puppet Break, Copycat Puppet Revenant Knight: Deadly Breath, Overbearing Shura: Ogre Strike, Counter Sorcerer: Vengeance, Bowbreaker Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command Wyvern Lord: Rally Defence, Swordbreaker HP +5: HP +5. Roundhouse: Hit Rate -10, Critical Rate +10. Rally Strength: Strength +4 to all allies within a 2-tile radius when the “Rally” command is used. Axefaire: When the user is equipped with an Axe, damage +5 during battle. Sol: Skill% chance of restoring half the damage deal to the enemy. Axebreaker: Hit Rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with an Axe. Resistance +2: Resistance +2. Demoiselle: Male allies within a 2-tile radius receive 2 less damage during battles. Servant’s Joy: When healing an ally, the user recovers the same amount of HP. Tomebreaker: Hit Rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Tome. Rally Resistance: Resistance +4 to all allies within a 2-tile radius when the “Rally” command is used. Battle Command: Allies within a 2-tile radius deal 2 extra damage and receive 2 less damage during battles.

But incest is wincest. Whoops, that was a stupid mistake on my part. Thanks for reading and pointing out the error, ahaha. It's been fixed. ^^;;

This is late, but the Summary has been posted. Thanks to everyone who participated in the polls and in the discussion! You're free to continue voting/discussing if you want, but this wraps up Week Four. The next set of polls will be posted sometime today.

Would you be willing to expand on how Leo would be the best Holy Bowman? I've seen a lot of people make Takumi, Kisaragi, and Mozume a Holy Bowman (and some even seem to do it with Sakura), but I've never heard of anyone reclassing Leo to a Holy Bowman. That sounds like an interesting concept. And Leo as a General makes me crack up. I just imagine him reading his tome peacefully when all of a sudden Kamui marches up, steals his book, and orders him to jump into the heaviest armor. And then Leo walks around like an awkward penguin, because he's not comfortable in the armor, ahaha.

I'm just really skeptical about inserting DLC classes into the polls, I apologize. I did put up another poll concerning them, though, if that would serve as a reasonable compromise. Ahh, I was wondering why people were voting for Revenant Knight. That makes a lot of sense.

I left it out of the polls to maintain some balance. DLC classes, because most of them are unlocked through paying, tend to be stronger than the other classes (e.g. most people would argue that Witch is better than Sorcerer). It would defeat the purpose of the weekly polls if the DLC classes ended up dominating the results, ahaha... You're still free to share your opinions on how a character (in this case, Leo) may perform as a DLC class, but I will not be editing the polls to put in that option.

Whoops! I guess Find and Replace failed me, ahaha. Thanks for the catch!

This is late, but the Summary has been posted. It was actually pretty interesting going over Felicia's potential options. I personally want to try using Felicia as an Adventurer in one of my playthroughs. Thanks to everyone who participated in the polls and in the discussion! You're free to continue voting/discussing if you want, but this wraps up Week Three. The next set of polls have already been posted, and I hope you enjoy that one!

For the fourth week, we’re going to vote and discuss on the best for Leo, the ambitious dark mage. I think he looks pretty stunning in his original outfit, but it’s still interesting to imagine other options for him. Ah Leo, the best unit of all…! No, what are you talking about? I’m not biased. Anyhow, given his natural affinity towards Mag and his personal tome, it’s probably a good idea to keep him in a magical class… but who knows? Maybe he has a niche talent that’s better exploited in a physical class. The format for this post is similar as that of last week: The following spoiler tags will mostly contain information regarding Leo. I’m actually a bit behind schedule (sorry!), so I’ll be uploading the rest of the information (inc. Predicted Stats) throughout the weekend. As there’s quite a bit of information, I wouldn’t suggest reading all of it, but only looking through what you deem necessary. I’d advocate the use of Ctrl+f to target specific information. If you already know the necessary information, there’s no need to go through it; this information is here simply for your convenience. (Also, I’m only human. If there are any mistakes within the information, please tell me so that I may correct it.) Without further ado: Which is the best class for Leo? [spoiler=Information Regarding the Marriage/Buddy Seals] I’m not going to go over the really general information, since I’m pretty sure most of you know about it already. But if you have no idea what these seals are, check out the items page or this post. Anyhow… Nishiki, Flannel, Azura, and Mozume provide access to their secondary class trees, as their starting class trees are unique to them (and in some cases, their children) (The credit for the following bullet points go to Astrophys, who I copied the wording from, and the other SF members on the Marriage Seals post that clarified this issue.) If there is no primary class tree overlap between the characters, the simplest case scenario plays out: They both get each other’s primary class trees. If the characters share each other’s primary class trees, they get each other’s secondary class trees. If a spouse’s (or buddy’s) primary class tree is the same as the character’s secondary class tree, the character does not receive any new class tree. There are certain exceptions to the last rule, but they mainly involve the Avatar. If you’re still confused, let me use Leo as an example to try and clarify matters! Let’s say Leo marries Azura. Azura’s secondary class tree is Pegasus Warrior, so Leo would receive the Pegasus Warrior tree. Let’s say Leo marries Berka. There is no primary class tree overlap between the two characters, so Leo would receive the Wyvern Rider tree. Let’s say Leo marries Nyx. Both of these characters’ primary class tree is Dark Knight. Thus, Leo would receive Nyx’s secondary class tree-- Outlaw. (The vice versa would apply, in which Nyx would receive the Rod Knight tree.) Let’s say Leo marries Felicia. Leo’s secondary class tree is Rod Knight, and Felicia’s primary class tree is Rod Knight. Although Felicia also has the Mercenary tree, Leo does not receive this; he receives no new class trees from Felicia. If you have any questions, shoot me a PM or leave a reply on the original post. The Marriage Seals post did a pretty good job of explaining the complexities, so feel free to check out that thread if you’re still confused. [spoiler=Rules, Notices, & Clarifications] Rules Please be respectful! This is a huge given, but I still see people break it all the time. Don’t be arrogant-- your opinion is important, but hardly the end-all-- and please don’t be a troll. I don’t want these polls to serve only for people who have played the game. Therefore, please be careful with spoilers. As we’re discussing classes, I’m assuming that most people are fine with gameplay spoilers. However, this does not guarantee that people are fine with story spoilers as well, so if you must bring them up, make sure to tag them as spoilers. If you’re tagging story spoilers, leave an explanation. Many people may assume that you simply tagged it as a spoiler because it was a long post, or because it was related to gameplay. Clarify what exactly you’re tagging-- it doesn’t take that many words. Notices In the optional poll, Elise placed second and Nyx placed third. As such, Elise will receive three additional votes, and Nyx will receive one. Xander and Tsukuyomi only received one vote, and as such, were eliminated from this week’s optional poll. As it has been proven that the forum does not wish to discuss them at the current moment, they have a waiting period of two weeks before they will be re-entered into the optional poll. As the victor, Leo has also been removed from this week’s optional poll. Takumi and Jakob have been re-entered into the optional poll. If it is demonstrated once again that the forum is not interested in these characters, they will have a waiting period of four weeks before they will be re-entered into the optional poll. Benoit and Charlotte have been added into the optional poll. Clarification If you’re confused as to what this post is all about, refer to the original post. It is currently Week Four. Week Three polls concerned Felicia, Week Two polls concerned Silas, and Week One polls concerned Azura. We are discussing the end class for Leo. You are free to consider reclassing options along the way (just make sure to factor in the cost of reclassing for the Practicality polls), but your vote should be based on your predicted end class. We’re ignoring DLC classes; those are OP on any character. If we go through with post-release (for NA/Europe) polls, I plan to have polls regarding which characters should receive the DLC classes. Children will not be introduced until the localized game is released, or we have gone through all of the first-generation characters. We’re ignoring any class options the Avatar may give to Leo, as it introduces too many new variables. There will not be Practicality polls for the Invisible Kingdom campaign, as there’s no space on the polls for it. I limited the Optimization/Practicality poll options to the promoted classes. I figured that in order to use Leo efficiently, he should be at a promoted class than at a base class. [spoiler=Possible Classes] Classes in black are ones Leo can achieve in either the Nohr or in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Classes in blue are ones Leo can only achieve in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Base Classes (4H, 8N, 12T) Bowman Cavalier Dark Mage Fighter Knight Mercenary Outlaw Pegasus Warrior Priest Rod Knight Samurai Wyvern Rider Promoted Classes (7H, 13N, 20T) Adventurer Berserker Bow Knight Brave Hero Butler Dark Knight Exorcist Falcon Warrior General Golden-Kite Warrior Great Knight Holy Bowman Mountain Priest Paladin Revenant Knight Sorcerer Strategist Trueblade Weapon Master Wyvern Lord [spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes] Primary Base Class: Dark Mage Primary Promoted Class: Dark Knight, Sorcerer Secondary Base Class: Rod Knight Secondary Promoted Class: Butler, Strategist Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the characters. I listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last. As Leo is a Nohr exclusive character, he can only marry the Hoshido characters in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Hinoka: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior Sakura: Priest -> Exorcist, Mountain Priest Berka: Wyvern Rider -> Revenant Knight, Wyvern Lord Charlotte: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero Effie: Knight -> General, Great Knight Luna: Mercenary -> Bow Knight, Brave Hero Nyx: Outlaw -> Adventurer, Bow Knight Pieri: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Azura: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior Felicia: n/a Mozume: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the characters. I listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last. As Leo is a Nohr exclusive character, he can only buddy the Hoshido characters in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Takumi: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman Odin: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master Xander: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Zero: Outlaw -> Adventurer, Bow Knight [spoiler=Basic Information (inc. Profile, Recruitment Conditions, Base Stats)] Profile Leo is a prince of Nohr. He is the wielder of the legendary weapon, Brunnhilde. He’s a genius who can handle most tasks flawlessly, as well as bear devastating magic. When facing enemies, he displays a ruthless side, but he’s surprisingly caring. He was born on June 30th, and is the biggest fan of tomatoes. Recruitment Conditions Leo joins in Chapter 14 in the Nohr campaign, and at the start of Turn 2 of Chapter 17 in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Base Stats Level: 2 HP: 34 Str: 14 Mag: 20 Skl: 14 Spd: 15 Lck: 15 Def: 16 Res: 20 Mov: 8 [spoiler=Maximum Stats] Leo adds -2 Str, +2 Mag, -2 Spd, and +2 Res. Maximum stats based on Leo’s possible classes will be uploaded soon! [spoiler=Growth Rates] Natural Growth Rates HP: 45 Str: 25 Mag: 55 Skl: 35 Spd: 45 Lck: 45 Def: 30 Res: 45 Growth rates based on Leo’s possible classes will be uploaded soon! [spoiler=Pair Up Bonuses] Natural Pair Up Bonuses C Support: +1 Mag B Support: +1 Mag, +1 Res A Support: +1 Mag, +1 Spd, +1 Res S Support: +2 Mag, +1 Spd, +1 Lck, +1 Res Pair up bonuses based on Leo’s possible classes will be uploaded soon! [spoiler=Possible Skills] (Credit goes to the SF staff, as all of this was taken from the main website.) Personal Skill: Cold-Blooded: When enemy’s HP is not full, damage +3 and damage received -1 during the battle. Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike). Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Leo can acquire through his primary and secondary class trees are listed below. Description of all the skills are located on the skills pages. Classes in black are ones Leo can achieve in either the Nohr or in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Classes in blue are ones Leo can only achieve in the Invisible Kingdom campaign. Base Class Skills Bowman: Skill +2, Prescient Victory Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue Dark Mage: Bind, Devilish Wind Fighter: HP +5, Roundhouse Knight: Defence +2, Confined Defence Mercenary: Stubbornness, Patient Assurance Outlaw: Locktouch, Movement +1 Pegasus Warrior: Swallow Strike, Eastern Heart Priest: Miracle, Rally Luck Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Distinguished Son Samurai: Flowing Strike, Vantage Wyvern Rider: Strength +2, Cut Through Promoted Class Skills Adventurer: Lucky Seven, Pass Berserker: Rally Strength, Axefaire Bow Knight: Rally Skill, Kunaibreaker Brave Hero: Sol, Axebreaker Butler: Servant’s Joy, Tomebreaker Dark Knight: Magic Seal, Lifetaker Exorcist: Rally Magic, Tomefaire Falcon Warrior: Rally Speed, Mirror Strike General: Defensive Formation, Pavise Golden-Kite Warrior: Soar, Sun God Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike Holy Bowman: Raven Strike, Bowfaire Mountain Priest: Magic Counter, Renewal Paladin: Defender, Aegis Revenant Knight: Deadly Breath, Overbearing Sorcerer: Vengeance, Bowbreaker Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command Trueblade: Astra, Swordfaire Weapon Master: Strength Seal, Line of Death Wyvern Lord: Rally Defence, Swordbreaker Bind: When the user is fighting adjacent to an enemy, enemy’s Avoid -20. Devilish Wind: Enemies within a 2-tile radius receive 2 extra damage from magical attacks. Magic Seal: After battle, enemy’s Magic -6 until the next Turn. Lifetaker: When the user triggers the battle, the user recovers 50% HP after defeating the enemy. Vengeance: Skill * 1.5% chance of adding half the user’s (Max HP - Current HP) as damage. Bowbreaker: Hit Rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Bow. Resistance +2: Resistance +2. Distinguished Son: Female allies within a 2-tile radius receive 2 less damage during battles. Servant’s Joy: When healing an ally, the user recovers the same amount of HP. Tomebreaker: Hit Rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Tome. Rally Resistance: Resistance +4 to all allies within a 2-tile radius for one Turn when the “Rally” command is used. Battle Command: Allies within a 2-tile radius deal 2 extra damage and receive 2 less damage during battles. [spoiler=Summary] I can’t really say the results are all that surprising. Here are the results: Optimal Class Dark Knight (59.32%) Sorcerer (11.86%) Strategist (10.17%) Most Practical Class (Nohr) Dark Knight (76.27%) Revenant Knight (8.47%) Sorcerer/Strategist (5.08%) Preferred Class Dark Knight (67.80%) Revenant Knight (8.47%) Sorcerer (6.78%) DLC Class Dark Falcon/Grandmaster (26.19%) Lodestar (23.81%) Unavailable (9.52%) Upcoming Character Charlotte (16.95%) Takumi (15.25%) Camilla (13.56%) [8 votes]/Elise (8.47%) [5+3 votes] (Elise received three additional votes from placing second last week.) With this, the next character we are going to be discussing will be Charlotte! Since Ryoma received only one vote and Benoit received none, they will not be included in the roster for next week’s poll. Takumi will receive three extra votes, and Camilla and Elise will each receive one extra vote for next week’s poll. Forum Discussion Dark Knight Leo Leo’s growths and caps are the best as a Dark Knight. Although Leo has high Mag, he also has decent Str. Therefore, he suits a hybrid class. While Dark Knight has decent Def that allows Leo to tank some hits, it has rather low Spd. Granted, Leo can fix this problem by getting Defensive Formation, but he would have to marry Effie for it. Leo can use his personal tome as a Dark Knight. Dark Knight grants Leo high mobility. Great Knight Leo Leo has decent Str, and Great Knight builds up on that. He can also use Mag oriented weapons, such as Bolt Axe and Levin Sword. Great Knight helps Leo’s Def, and gives him decent Res, which makes him a usable tank. However, Great Knight is definitely not Leo’s recommended class. It still seems like a fun option, though. Holy Bowman Leo As a Holy Bowman, Leo can use the Shining Bow (a weapon that uses Mag), which has 13 Mt and can double. Due to his growths, he has better Res than other potential Holy Bowmans. Leo has the flexibility that not many bow users do. He can use the Mighty Bow, get his Str halved, and then simply switch over to the Shining Bow. Leo can also do this as an Adventurer, though. Revenant Knight Leo Although Leo has high Mag, he also has decent Str. Therefore, he suits a hybrid class. Leo’s growth rates struggle in Str, Skl, and Def. The Revenant Knight gives him 15% Str, and 10% Skl and Def. It also gives him 15% Mag to make his Mag even stronger. Leo can use his personal tome as a Revenant Knight. However, as a Revenant Knight, Leo will have to grind for the Axe weapon rank. This can be impractical in a non-grinding Nohr playthrough. Also, the weapon rank limit on tomes is B, and given Leo’s high Mag, this can be a bit of a waste. However, he still has access to his personal weapon, which only requires rank E. Revenant Knights grant Leo high mobility and flight. Revenant Knight gives Leo Deadly Breath, which reduces the HP of nearby enemies. This works well with his personal skill, which triggers when an enemy is not at full HP. To be a Revenant Knight, Leo would have to marry either Berka. Berka would lower Leo's Spd cap to -3. Also, she doesn't do much for Foleo’s Mag cap, and Felicia or Nyx may be better marriage candidates. However, Foleo doesn’t need to focus too heavily on Spd if he’s a support unit. Also, Foleo can A+ support with Ignis for Defensive Formation. Sorcerer Leo Although Leo has higher than average Str growth as a Mag-oriented unit, his Str is still fairly weak. Additionally, he has a -2 Str cap, which can reflect poorly on an optimized unit that uses Str. Leo can hit hard as a Sorcerer (37 Mag), and he has better Spd and Res in this class. Sorcerer allows Leo to go up to an S rank with tomes, and he can maximize his attack power. Leo can use the Nosferatu tome as a Sorcerer. Even with the nerf, this tome is fairly powerful. However, he can also use this tome in other classes, as it’s simply a D rank tome. Despite its nerf, Leo is actually a suitable candidate for Nosferatu. First, he’s fairly slow, so he won’t be doubling too much in the first place (and not at all if he married Effie for Defensive Formation). Second, he has decent HP and Def and doesn’t rely on dodge tanking, so the Avoid -20 doesn’t hurt him as much. Strategist Leo In a Lunatic runthrough, Leo could serve as a healer. If he stays as a Dark Knight for a while before reclassing, his Def may be high enough to allow him to be a front line healer. Even though the weapon rank limit on tomes is B, he can still access his personal weapon. Additionally, his high Mag allows him to do some fancy staffwork.

According to this thread, actions taken during a PvP match are reversed. Hence, the Bifrost staff would be restocked after each match.

Apologies for that, I should have clarified. Yes, I'm asking about items and staves; I was simply referring to the weapons utilized in Awakening as an example.

When you use an item during a PvP/Streetpass battle, does it lose its use permanently? (For instance, I remember a lot of players used to spam Brave Weapons in Streetpass battles since their uses were restored after a battle.)

For the third week, we’re going to vote and discuss on the best class for Felicia, the clumsy maid. She’s quite renowned for her fighting skills, so shall we take a look at that? One of the reasons Felicia has more flexibility in class choices is due to her fairly strong Mag, which allows her to either serve as a healer or as a magic user. However, there’s a special Hidden Weapon for Felicia that basically serves as a Levin Sword-- its damage is dependent on Mag. With that in mind, maybe Felicia has some hopes for a purely physical class as well! The format for this post is similar as that of last week: The following spoiler tags will mostly contain information regarding Felicia. For this week, I’ve added the Pair Up bonuses Felicia provides within each class, and modified the Predicted Stats for level 20, 30, and 40. As there’s quite a bit of information, I wouldn’t suggest reading all of it, but only looking through what you deem necessary. I’d advocate the use of Ctrl+f to target specific information. Also, a lot of information is shown through attachments, so you'll have to click on it to be able to read the text. If you already know the necessary information, there’s no need to go through it; this information is here simply for your convenience. (Also, I’m only human. If there are any mistakes within the information, please tell me so that I may correct it.) Without further ado: Which is the best class for Felicia? [spoiler=Information Regarding the Marriage/Buddy Seals] Information Regarding the Marriage/Buddy Seals I’m not actually going to go over the really general information, since I’m pretty sure most of you know about it already. But if you have no idea what these seals are, check out the items page or this post. Anyhow… Nishiki, Flannel, Azura, and Mozume provide access to their secondary class trees, as their starting class trees are unique to them (and in some cases, their children). (The credit for the following bullet points go to Astrophys, who I copied the wording from, and the other SF members on the Marriage Seals post that clarified this issue.) If there is no primary class tree overlap between the characters, the simplest case scenario plays out: They both get each other’s primary class trees. If the characters share each other’s primary class trees, they get each other’s secondary trees. If a spouse’s (or buddy’s) primary class tree is the same as the character’s secondary class tree, the character does not receive any class tree. There are certain exceptions to the last rule, but they mainly involve the Avatar. If you’re still confused, let me use Felicia as an example to try and clarify matters! Let’s say Felicia marries Nishiki. Nishiki’s secondary class tree is Spellcaster, so Felicia would receive the Spellcaster tree. Let’s say Felicia marries Kaze. There is no primary class overlap between the two characters, so Felicia would receive the Ninja tree. Let’s say Felicia marries Jakob. Both of these characters’ primary class tree is Rod Knight. Thus, Felicia would receive Jakob’s secondary class tree-- Cavalier. (The vice versa would apply, in which Jakob would receive the Mercenary tree.) Let’s say Felicia marries Lazward. Felicia’s secondary class tree is Mercenary, and Lazward’s primary class tree is Mercenary. Although Lazward also has the Ninja tree, Felicia does not receive this; she receives no new class trees from Lazward. If you have any questions, shoot me a PM or leave a reply on the original post. The Marriage Seals post did a pretty good job of explaining the complexities, so feel free to check out that thread if you’re still confused. [spoiler=Rules, Notices, & Clarifications] Rules, Notices, & Clarifications Rules Please be respectful! This is a huge given, but I still see people break it all the time. Don’t be arrogant-- your opinion is important, but hardly the end-all-- and please don’t be a troll. I don’t want these polls to serve only for people who have played the game. Therefore, please be careful with spoilers. As we’re discussing classes, I’m assuming that most people are fine with gameplay spoilers. However, this does not guarantee that people are fine with story spoilers as well, so if you must bring them up, make sure to tag them as spoilers. If you’re tagging story spoilers, leave an explanation. Many people may assume that you simply tagged it as a spoiler because it was a long post, or because it was related to gameplay. Clarify what exactly you’re tagging-- it doesn’t take that many words. Notices In the optional poll, Leo placed second and Nyx placed third. As such, Leo will receive three additional votes, and Nyx will receive one. Sakura received zero votes, and as such, were eliminated from this week’s optional poll. As it has been proven that the forum does not wish to discuss them at the current moment, they have a waiting period of two weeks before they will be re-entered into the optional poll. As the victor, Felicia has also been removed from this week’s optional poll. The two characters have been replaced by Tsukuyomi and Mozume. Clarification If you’re confused as to what this post is all about, refer to the original post. It is currently Week Three. Week Two polls concerned Silas, and Week One polls concerned Azura. We are discussing the end class for Felicia. You are free to consider reclassing options along the way (just make sure to factor in the cost of reclassing for the Practicality polls), but your vote should be based on your predicted end class. We’re ignoring DLC classes; those are OP on any character. If we go through with post-release (for NA/Europe) polls, I plan to have polls regarding which characters should receive the DLC classes. Children will not be introduced until the localized game is released, or we have gone through all of the first-generation characters. We’re ignoring any class options the Avatar may give to Felicia, as it introduces too many new variables. There will not be Practicality polls for the Third Route, as there’s no space on the polls for it. I limited the Optimization/Practicality poll options to the promoted classes. I figured that in order to use Silas efficiently, he should be at a promoted class than at a base class. [spoiler=Possible Classes] Possible Classes Classes in red are ones Felicia can only achieve in the Hoshido campaign. Classes in black are ones Felicia can only achieve in the Nohr campaign. Class in blue are ones Felicia can achieve in either campaign. Base Classes (6H, 7N, 13T) Bowman Cavalier Dark Mage Fighter Knight Mercenary Outlaw Ninja Pegasus Warrior Priestess Rod Knight Samurai Spellcaster Promoted Classes (10H, 11N, 21T) Adventurer Basara Berserker Bow Knight Brave Hero Dark Knight Elite Ninja Exorcist Falcon Warrior General Golden-Kite Warrior Great Knight Holy Bowman Maid Paladin Puppeteer Sorcerer Strategist Trueblade War Priestess Weapon Master [spoiler=Expansion of Possible Classes] Expansion of Possible Classes Primary Base Class: Rod Knight Primary Promoted Class: Maid, Strategist Secondary Base Class: Mercenary Secondary Promoted Class: Bow Knight, Brave Hero Marriage Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the characters. I listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last. Asama: Priestess -> Exorcist, War Priestess Hinata: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master Nishiki: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist Ryoma: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master Saizou: Ninja -> Elite Ninja, Puppeteer Subaki: Pegasus Warrior -> Falcon Warrior, Golden-Kite Warrior Takumi: Bowman -> Golden-Kite Warrior, Holy Bowman Tsukuyomi: Spellcaster -> Basara, Exorcist Arthur: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero Benoit: Knight -> General, Great Knight Flannel: Fighter -> Berserker, Brave Hero Lazward: n/a Leo: Dark Mage -> Dark Knight, Sorcerer Odin: Dark Mage -> Dark Knight, Sorcerer Xander: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Zero: Outlaw -> Adventurer, Bow Knight Jakob: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Kaze: Ninja -> Elite Ninja, Puppeteer Silas: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin Buddy Seal Classes: These are organized alphabetically based on the localized names of the characters. I listed the Hoshido characters first, the Nohr characters second, and the shared characters last. Hana: Samurai -> Trueblade, Weapon Master Flora: Dark Mage -> Dark Knight, Sorcerer Pieri: Cavalier -> Great Knight, Paladin [spoiler=Basic Information (inc. Profile, Recruitment Conditions, Base Stats)] Basic Information (inc. Profile, Recruitment Conditions, Base Stats) Profile Felicia is a member of Nohr’s Ice Tribe; she’s the chieftain’s daughter and Flora’s younger twin sister. She’s the Avatar’s vassal, and a klutz who gets depressed about her constant mistakes. Nevertheless, she’s a skilled fighter and a hard worker who puts on a brave face. She was born on February 19th, and is a destructive goddess. Recruitment Conditions In either campaign… Felicia joins in Chapter 2 if the Avatar is male. Felicia joins in Chapter 16 if the Avatar is female. Base Stats [spoiler=Maximum Stats] Maximum Stats Felicia adds -2 Str, +2 Mag, +1 Spd, -1 Def, and +1 Res. Red text indicates low stats; blue text indicates high stats. Red boxes indicate the lowest stat possible among the various classes; blue boxes indicate the highest stat possible among the various classes. [spoiler=Growth Rates] Growth Rates The first chart shows Felicia’s natural growths and her growths as a Maid or Strategist. Red text indicates low growths; blue text indicates high growths. Red boxes indicate the lowest growth possible among the various classes; blue boxes indicate the highest growth for the stat possible among the various classes. [spoiler=Predicted Stats] Predicted Stats The first two predictions were based on Felicia’s base stats from Chapter 2, whereas the last prediction was based on Felicia’s base stats from Chapter 16. The first set of attachments show the predicted stats for level 20, 30, and 40 based on Felicia’s base stats from Chapter 2. The second set of attachments show the predicted stats for level 20, 30, and 40 based on Felicia’s base stats from Chapter 16. Red text indicates low stats; blue text indicates high stats; purple text indicates capped stats. Red boxes indicate the lowest stat among the various classes; blue boxes indicate the highest stat possible among the various classes. [spoiler=Pair Up Bonuses] Pair Up Bonuses Blue text indicates high bonuses. Blue boxes indicate the highest bonus among the various classes. [spoiler=Possible Skills] Possible Skills (Credit goes to the SF staff, as all of this was taken from the main website.) Personal Skill: Absolute Support: If the Avatar is the lead unit, Avatar’s damage +2, damage received -2. Skills are organized alphabetically based on the classes. Within the classes, skills are listed in the order of achievement (e.g. a GK earns Luna at Lvl. 5 and Diamond Strike at Lvl. 15, so Luna is listed before Diamond Strike). Base class skills are listed before promoted class skills. Descriptions of skills Felicia can acquire through her primary and secondary class trees are listed below. Description of all the skills are located on the skills pages. Skills in red are ones Felicia can only achieve in the Hoshido campaign. Skills in black are ones Felicia can only achieve in the Nohr campaign. Skills in blue are ones Felicia can achieve in either campaign. Base Class Skills Bowman: Skill +2, Prescient Victory Cavalier: Open Assault, Rescue Dark Mage: Bind, Devilish Wind Fighter: HP +5, Roundhouse Knight: Defence +2, Confined Defence Mercenary: Stubbornness, Patient Assurance Outlaw: Locktouch, Movement +1 Ninja: Locktouch, Snake Venom Pegasus Warrior: Swallow Strike, Eastern Heart Priestess: Miracle, Rally Luck Rod Knight: Resistance +2, Demoiselle Samurai: Flowing Strike, Vantage Spellcaster: Magic +2, Fortune Promoted Class Skills Adventurer: Lucky Seven, Pass Basara: Breaking Sky, Flamboyant Berserker: Rally Strength, Axefaire Bow Knight: Rally Skill, Kunaibreaker Brave Hero: Sol, Axebreaker Dark Knight: Magic Seal, Lifetaker Elite Ninja: Lethality, Kunaifaire Exorcist: Rally Magic, Tomefaire Falcon Warrior: Rally Speed, Mirror Strike General: Defensive Formation, Pavise Golden-Kite Warrior: Soar, Sun God Great Knight: Luna, Diamond Strike Holy Bowman: Raven Strike, Bowfaire Maid: Servant’s Joy, Tomebreaker Paladin: Defender, Aegis Puppeteer: Puppet Break, Copycat Puppet Sorcerer: Vengeance, Bowbreaker Strategist: Rally Resistance, Battle Command Trueblade: Astra, Swordfaire War Priestess: Magic Counter, Renewal Weapon Master: Strength Seal, Line of Death Resistance +2: Resistance +2. Demoiselle: Male allies within a 2-tile radius receive 2 less damage during battles. Servant’s Joy: When healing an ally, the user recovers the same amount of HP. Tomebreaker: Hit Rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a Tome. Rally Resistance: Resistance +4 to all allies within a 2-tile radius for one Turn when the “Rally” command is used. Battle Command: Allies within a 2-tile radius deal 2 extra damage and receive 2 less damage during battles. Stubbornness: Luck% chance of recovering 20% HP at the start of the user’s Turn. Patient Assurance: When enemy triggers the battle, damage +3. Rally Skill: Skill +4 to all allies within a 2-tile radius for one Turn when the “Rally” command is used. Kunaibreaker: Hit Rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with a kuani. Sol: Skill% chance of restoring half the damage dealt to the enemy. Axebreaker: Hit Rate and Avoid +50 when the enemy is equipped with an axe. [spoiler=Summary] Oh wow. These results are actually quite interesting, in that a “non canon” class was voted as the optimal class. That’s a first. Here are the results: Optimal Class Strategist (31.82%) Maid (29.55%) Exorcist (11.36%) Most Practical Class (Hoshido) Maid (38.64%) Strategist (29.55%) Exorcist (15.91%) Most Practical Class (Nohr) Strategist (38.64%) Maid (34.09%) Unavailable (6.82%) Preferred Class Maid (75.00%) Strategist (6.82%) Third place was discarded as there was a tie between multiple classes. Upcoming Character Leo (11.36%) [5+3 votes] Elise (13.64%) [6 votes] Nyx (9.09%) [4+1 votes] (Leo placed ahead of Elise because he got three additional votes from placing second last week.) With this, the next character we are going to be discussing will be Leo! ...As you might have already seen, ahaha. Xander and Tsukuyomi each received only one vote, and will therefore not be included in the roster for next week’s poll. Elise and Nyx will “receive” extra votes (three and one respectively) for next week’s poll. Forum Discussion Adventurer Felicia Felicia can equip the Shining Bow, which allows her to utilize her Mag to attack. The Shining Bow does not allow Felicia to inflict critical hits. However, while Felicia’s Lck is high, her Skl is low; she would not have been scoring that many criticals in the first place. The weapon also has fairly high Mt, and can be very powerful in Felicia’s hands. The weapon has a fairly low Hit Rate and inflicts -20 Avoid, but Lucky Seven can fix these problems. Adventurer allows Felicia to continue using staves. This is useful, as Felicia will probably have a high staff level from her initial class. Exorcist Felicia Exorcist provides Felicia with high Mag and Skl growth (the former capitalizes on her strength, and the latter fixes her weakness). It gives her the ability to use magical weapons. Exorcist allows Felicia to continue using staves. This is useful, as Felicia will probably have a high staff level from her initial class. If Felicia can run through Strategist, Felicia can be a great support unit with Rally Magic/Resistance, Battle Command, Demoiselle, and great staff usage. As a support unit, Felicia will mostly be in the back. Therefore, she does not have to worry about Exorcist’s low Def. Exorcist has the skill Fortune. Since Felicia has great Lck, she can get good bonus EXP out of this skill. Maid Felicia Felicia has poor Str, which makes her inept in this class. Felicia’s Ice Tray allows her to utilize her Mag to attack, but this weapon is hard to come by, and it’s not terribly strong. Also, Felicia’s Ice Tray is not unique to her, and it may be more useful on other characters. Aside from her Ice Tray, Felicia can also use Explosive Shurikens to utilize her Mag. This weapon has stronger Mt, and improves Felicia’s damage output. However, Explosive Shurikens have -20 Avoid. Since Felicia wants to avoid attacks (with her weak Def), this may not be the most useful weapon. Maid has an S-rank in staves. This allows Felicia to use the Bifrost Staff during PvP matches, which revives a dead unit. Felicia has access to many self-healing skills (Sol, Servant’s Joy, Stubbornness), so she can be somewhat of a battle cleric. She’ll be able to assist people on the front lines while taking a couple of hits. Although Felicia has poor Skl, Sol has a relatively high proc rate. Additionally, her Lck is very high, which allows Stubbornness to activate frequently. Sorcerer Felicia Although Sorcerer helps Felicia’s Mag, it provides such poor support for Felicia’s weak Skl. Strategist Felicia Strategist does not help Felicia’s weak Skl. However, this could be fixed if Felicia first raises her Skl sufficiently in Maid and then reclasses into Strategist. Strategist heavily emphasizes Felicia’s strengths and the cost of leaving her weaknesses very prominent. However, she can play the part of a support unit and sit safely at the back. Due to Felicia’s high Lck growth, she may cap out on it. Compared to other classes, Strategist has a high Lck cap. Although Felicia has low Def, she has high Lck and decent Spd. Therefore, with certain breaker skills, she can dodge most attacks in the early game. Strategist grants Felicia good movement, which allows her to assist other units and run away from danger.

If Felicia A+ supports with Flora, can she Buddy Seal into Dark Mage?

The Summary has been posted, and the next polls will be posted tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who participated in the polls and in the discussion! You're free to continue voting/discussing if you want, but this wraps up Week Two.