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I think it is pretty inefficient to get the shield. Also I don't think it is a very good item since the -10 Spd kill pretty much everyone's offense outside of Mage!Atlas who can do just fine with an Iron or Steel Shield. If Boey is actually being used as a unit then he probably got Spd boosts from the start of chapter 2 and his offense is pretty fine then. Kliff doesn't really fill anything for Celica. You have plenty of Mercs and Mages already. Leon is pretty great as an archer. Cav would be pretty nice, but not really needed. Soldier is a Soldier.

Atlas already has a promotion analysis, Check here

Okay I lied about the Kliff promotion analysis being the last one. This is probably the last one Dean vs Sonya - Comparing the two units you have to choose from

Yeah thought about it, and Gray being a Merc isn't that big of an idea that needs a big analysis. He would be aight as a Cav, and then the worst at pretty much everything as a Mage, Soldier and Cavalier.

Probably last double post, as I have what are probably the final two analyses. The Villager Faye The Villager Kliff Analyzing both of these villager's promotion options.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the fork since you have to back track or do some extra grinding to make use of it. Mae would be the best use of it however. Also, new analysis is up. Lion Well Boost - Some recommendations for how to use the free stat boosts that are present throughout the game

That would be the most optimal promotion set. Cavalier!Kliff could work instead of Archer!Kliff. I will be posting an analysis on Faye and Kliff tomorrow that go indepth into their options.

Tobin has the better long term thanks to physic. Kliff actually can't orko Barons with Aura unless he has 18 Atk which he averages at like level 14 Sage. The only way a mage is really killing a Baron in one round is if they crit with Excalibur, which Tobin is also better at since he has Gray support which grants +Crit. Kliff is better off as an Archer or Cavalier than a Mage.

Glad you enjoy them. I will be doing a promotion guide for the rest of the villagers and then that is probably all of the analyses I'll do unless there is a topic I haven't thought of that I feel could use a good analysis.

Apologies again for the double post, but I have another analysis for today The Villager Tobin - Going through all of Tobin's promotion options and looking at his performance in each one.

Have a new analysis up. This time on the leveling up Clerics and how far do you need to go with them. Fielding a mage isn't really gimping your gameplay performance. Having a Mage for chapter 1 is a pretty amazing thing if they are able to double and speed up the gameplay entirely as otherwise the first chapter would be a total slog until the Lightning Sword. Chapter 3 they aren't as effective since they just get left behind in the dust so much by the Paladins and Falcos. They can usually find something to do during these maps though like find some close enemy or take on a side group. They can make a small comeback in chapter 4 once you get the Magic and Speed Ring. They are the best units to tackle enemy Armors and Barons as their physical bulk is just to insane for normal units to take on so the mages find a good amount of use then. Once Tatiana gets Warp as well, you can start warping twice the amount of units and that can give the mages a chance to get warped into action. They also do well in dungeons where the movement isn't as big of a deal.

Apologies for the double post again, but I have the next analysis up. Weapon Skills - Reviewing the more relevant and useful weapon arts for the main game. Hope you all enjoy!

Yeah Celica learns Recover at lvl 9, which is fairly easy for her to achieve. Faye would be best as Peg since it would give Celica another flier that has similar availability to Palla and Catria. Cav could work as well for the movement boost and better bulk than Peg. Kliff would be best as a Cavalier since it patches his spd up a bit and gives him a mobility niche. All of his other classes would be really bad(Mage and Soldier) or outdone by other units in the route(Merc and Archer)

Faye would be super underleveled at that point and her stats would be really bad making her a liability for the most part. Genny is fine as a sole cleric on Celica's route since she can either use Invoke or Physics to get out of most situations. Celica also gets recover fairly early for the heals, a lot of equipment the army has gives passive recovery, and there is Nomah and promoted Mae/Boey for some more heals. Faye is more useful as a Cleric on Alm's side helping Silque who is the only healer until Tatiana or a Sage promotion both of which happen fairly late.

That is one of the reasons I made the list. I said in the opening of the post, "This is meant for players unfamiliar with the game or would like an idea of the units. So use it as like a gist of the units and their performance in the game." Glad you find it useful.

Don't have any and don't plan to make any for it mostly because I don't like since you basically need to grind or back track for it to be effective which I don't really like. Only recommendation I would make would be to give it Mae and give her the 3 Str so she could orko bandits after 1 Str proc and you can get a Falco/Paladin at the end of chapter 2 which is lol. That is my list. Didn't post it here because I knew it would derail the thread as it appears to be doing so. But I'll respond to some of your points. Delthea just joins so late and you could give the Speed Ring to any mages or Tatiana(so she can get her white spells faster) and they would do the same thing as Delthea but better since they'd have much better bulk(or utility in Tatiana's case). Delthea just doesn't do anything special really. Silque has Warp which is really amazing. She gets it at lvl 7 1 level after Faye gets Physics so Faye dosen't really cut into Silque's growth much. Since she has warp she has the best claim to the 3 Atk boosts at Deliverance an she can have the Lyon shield passed over to increase her range. Warp is just really amazing even after the nerfs. Clives movement and Paladins stats are good and allow him to fight more than Lukas who can't make it to most action without a warp or rescue except in dungeons.

Lukas has better availability and will most likely be promoted by Forsyth's join. So Forysth is stuck playing catch up to Lukas at the point when Lukas is starting lose usefulness due to things such as Clair, Mathilda, Alm and Myrm!Gray. Soldier is also just a bad class due to the 4 move and you'll never need more than Lukas for a tank if you need one at all.

Luthier is perfectly fine on HM since he has Excalibur. Python is good, but he sucks in that period from his join until Sniper promo at the Forest Shrine. If you look around at my submission history on Reddit you could probably find the tier list I made for HM.

I can do an analysis on the good weapon skills and their use in a playthrough. Skills are only a relatively minor thing to combat aside from Twin Lions or Hunter Volley, so they shouldn't deter you from changing equipment on physical units. Most of a weapon's use comes from its normal combat, with the skills just being a bonus.

Double post, but I have new analysis up. This one is on forging in SoV Hope you enjoy

Yeah the boosted HM enemy stats, changed exp gain, growth changes, and introduction of forging does change the dynamic of the game a lot from the original Gaiden. Mage!Kliff is an example of something that really falls apart when you start matching it up to HM enemy stats and the drop in effectiveness as the game progresses as other units get much better.

Over on Reddit I've been doing a number of gameplay analysis posts on varies topics. So I'd thought to link them here so anyone who doesn't go on Reddit or does and missed the posts have a chance to see them and potentially benefit from them Heads up some general assumptions made in all the posts is that the game is played on HM without a lot of grinding. Ram Village Mages - A look at Tobin, Faye and Kliff as Mages and their effectiveness. Item Merchants - An analysis of what items you should pass between routes. The Villager Atlas - Looking into all the promotion options of Atlas and his performance in each class Forging - Going over all the options the player has for forging Weapon Skill - Reviewing the more relevant and useful weapon arts for the main game. Leveling Clerics - Understanding how far a player should actively level their healers. The Villager Tobin - Taking a crack at analyzing all Tobin's promotion options. Lion Well Boosts - Some recommendations on how to use the free Lion Well boosts. The Villager Faye - Analyzing all of Faye's promotion options. The Villager Kliff - A review of Kliff's promotion options and his effectiveness in each class. Sonya vs Dean - Comparing the two units you have to choose between Those are all I have done so far. I'll link more as I make them which is probably about 1 a day until the Western release. Hope these have been helpful to some of you!

A lot of issues with the Rev list. Camilla is pretty easily better than both Ryoma and Xander here since her join time is way better than theirs and her flight for the latter half of the game. No reason for Azura not to be S-tier and no way Takumi is better. Keeping it more brief Oboro, Hinoka, Saizo, Elise, Effie, Benny, Charlotte, Mozu, Niles, Azama are all too high. Fuga, Reina, Hayato, Hinata, Rinka, Laslow, and Peri are all too low. Gunter could probably go up as well. Forceful Partner is doing way more than most of these units are.

Voted for the Rev tier list S: Corrin, Jakob(Ch2), Azura, Gunter, Reina, Camilla, Shura, Xander, Leo, Ryoma, Fuga A: Felicia(Ch2), Sakura, Hayato, Takumi, Kagero, Keaton, Silas B: Baki, Kaze, Oboro, Hinata, Selena, Kaden, Flora C: Hana, Rinka, Saizo, Beruka, Elise, Felicia(Ch15), Hinoka, Peri D: Orochi, Arthur, Effie, Benny, Charlotte, Nyx, Jakob*Ch15, Azama, Setsuna, Niles, Laslow, Odin

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