RedRob

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  1. I figured it was some Cipher reference.
  2. In that case, why would she give Falchion to them? If they were to start mistreating the locals, they would toss it to protect themselves.
  3. In that case, if Degeneration was unheard of, why would Naga give them Falchion so they could be taken care of when it happened? At that point in time Naga would be unaware of their eventual fate.
  4. Added more to my original post, this time about the brands.
  5. The wiki said the main difference between the the two is that a Manakete only has pointed ears as a sign of their heritage, and their powers are sealed in their dragonstone. Those that just assume a human form will have other traits to show it, like Mila.
  6. Yeah, I found the idea that the reason Mila didn't seal Duma because he was a Divine Dragon to make her racist. Like it's fine if the exiled Divine Dragon rules a country, but not the exiled Earth Dragon. Note the by exiled Earth Dragon, I'm referring to a hypothecial version of Duma, not Loptyr, in case I confused anyone. Plus she wanted all dragons to seal their powers, not only Earth Dragons. Saying she gave Duma a Falchion instead of having him make a dragonstone just because he was from her tribe, to once again make her look racist. Though I don't think Duma had a stone as I'm pretty sure that sealing of one's power in a dragonstone stopped the degeneration. But as Medeus said, he didn't seem to mind having a human form. Heck, he doesn't even hate humans, and a dragonstone only momentarily weakens a dragon by having them assume a human form, as they can still access their dragon form, so it doesn't conflict too much with his power-based mindset. I'm starting to think whoever wrote their new backstory wasn't too aware of previous canon and lore. Though I'm not sure that wasn't even consistent. I went to look at the wiki's Manakete page to do some fact checking, and it says Mila was just a dragon that took a human form, as she still has dragonic traits, which a Manakete wouldn't have, yet the page image for a Manakete is this. Which is from the card for Manaketes in the card game. So again, not sure if the lore behind them is entirely consistent.
  7. Eh, I just thought Manakete was the species name in general. I feel like you're getting worked up over a someone using basically using it as slang for dragonkind. Honestly, the bitch comment was just me trying to make fun of the situation, which I found kind of ridiculous. Their dispute is vague leaving the outcome of exile seeming a bit harsh, and then they get a suicide tool as a farewell gift. I also ended the joke off with saying I might need to apologize to Naga near the end of my post. And I feel like you're being condescending here. I noted why she gave it to them. No need to explain like I'm ignorant of everything. I never said they were from different species, just that maybe they should have been Earth dragons instead of Divine ones, due to how Duma looked. And I don't think Anankos is good for comparison. As you said, he isn't connected to Archanean lore, just based off it. Plus Corrin is half-human, which might have played into how his dragon form looked. Granted, there is Nah, but I feel trying to compare the workings of genetics from different continuities to be pointless.
  8. That was a goof near the end there. The rest of my post refers to Naga as the one who exiled him.
  9. I thought Dragons could still breed, it's just that their fertility drastically decreased, limiting their ability to repopulate. Not that they went full on sterile.
  10. When Gaiden was first released, it featured various things that wouldn't show up in other games until quite later. One such thing was having only a non-dragon source of conflict, in the forms of Duma and Mila( or just Duma since Mila didn't so up at all.) We all know this is a very unique thing as when it isn't a dragon causing trouble, it's a human related to one. Only two other continuities share this. Sacred Stones with the Demon King and Tellius with Ashnard and those Godesses. However with the release of Echoes, Gaiden doesn't really have that honor anymore with the two being Divine Dragons now. And for a decent reason. Mila and Duma are just weird.( and I'm not just talking about Duma's original sprite.) As Gaiden, or Echoes as I will refer to it from now on, takes place in the same universe as Shadow Dragon and Mystery. This doesn't mean much in terms of plot as the only effect this had originally was Camus and the Whitewings showing up.(And they added nothing to the plot.) But the context it gives to the setting shows why making the two dragons was a good idea. Their original concept as gods brought up many questions. Are their other gods in this continuity? Why does some random country to the west have gods while Archanea doesn't? And then there's Falchion showing up too. But Echoes answered those questions by giving them a backstory. They were both Manaketes living in Archanea, until Naga exiled Duma for a dispute they had, and Mila went with him out of familial love. But Naga wasn't a total bitch (it was just a dispute, hardly worth exile) and gave them a parting gift, another Falchion, so the two could kill themselves when faced with degeneration... Nevermind, she's a bitch. This explains why two "gods" were in Valentia as well as Falchion, and even adds some reason to Rudolph's plan to kill them. In the original, he was just tired of their influence over Valentia. Here, its because they're going mad, which can't be a good thing. It's never a good thing when gods go mad. So remaking them as dragons seems to be quite the logical move to make. Until you remember they're Divine Dragons, with the power of gods apparently, like improving the land's fertility, or taking women's souls and turning them into empty shell of hot babes. Uh, what? I mean, Mila can kind of work as a Divine Dragon, but her brother is basically proto-Grima. How the heck is this one-eyed monstrosity Divine in anyway? Earth might have been a better fit for them. (That or make them hybrids. Like they parents were from different tribes. What would happen in a case like that anyway?) That said, I do have a theory that Duma's form here isn't his natural form. Rather he found out about that alchemist from Thabes work, and being the power-driven guy he is, used it to mutate himself to gain more power. Which adds some legitimacy to Naga's decision to exile him if that was the cause for it. Huh, guess I owe her an apology. Well that's it for now. I add more to this later with the topic of the brands. But for now, I need a break. EDIT: Okay so I'm back with the topics of the Brands this time, also a new addition to Echoes as Alm only had a birthmark in Gaiden from what I heard. Brands first showed in Fe4, being a mark on the skin that to show that the characters were part of bloodlines dating back to legendary warriors who made a bloodpact with dragons. This also showed up in Awakening, with the the royal family of Ylisse all having a brand to signify their connection with Naga and the First Exalt. Except for Lissa, who is a freak occurrance where the brand does not manifest. (Unless she does have it, only it's located on an internal organ of something.) Both of those games are in or speculated to be in the same continuity as the Archanea games. Which makes Alm's and Celica's brands a bit weird. First off, it seems like Alm and Celica are the first with the Brands, or at the very least, the only ones in that generation. None of the other royal family members seem to have it. This is weird, especially when you consider how Lima was. Celica must have had bunch of siblings, yet only she has the brand. While Lissa shows the appearance of one isn't guaranteed, this is taking it a bit far. Secondly, they're the subject of a prophecy, which boils down to, "The Bearers of the brand will save Valentia." This is weird considering the how Brands have operated so far, which is basically being a mutation, for lack of a better word, that results from a bloodpact. Not some magical sign of fate. The whole deal comes off quite generic JRPG in contrast to the rest of the continuity, and if the brands are due to a bloodapct with Duma and Mila, then their portrayal leans closer to them being gods, not dragons, with the brands being a magical sign of fate, not a mutation.
  11. I'm telling ya, the writers can't do math. That or they didn't bother to check with each other. While Gray might have been exgerating, I rewatched the prologue, and their brands are brought up by Alm saying and I'm copying straight from the text here "..Oh hey! See this? We have the same mark." So unless Alm is blind, Celica couldn't have been there long, otherwise Alm would have noticed her brand by then.
  12. Fair enough I guess. At the very least, I hold onto that the relationship could have been written a lot better and in a more believable fashion.
  13. Eh, the impression I got from how they were speaking was that Celica hadn't been there that long,(Grey said she just moved there) plus I feel Celica and Alm would have talked about their brands already by then. I mean considering everyone seems to have x-ray vision when it comes to Alm's brand, he should have noticed hers fairly quickly. At the very least, the writers could have done better in setting up the relationship. Also, there's this trope called Writers Cannot Do Math, so it's also possible that's just a mess-up on their part. Plus there's no explicit confirmation all 3 years were spent at Ram. I'm actually more okay with how those two games did it since the timeline of the supports are really vague.
  14. I did enjoy the game's plot while playing it, but after reading this I'm kicking myself a bit for that. Still, I loved the art. Except the CGI. Christ that was horrible. I think a major problem was that there was never a really any buildup to the themes. Like Alm is all angsty about not having any family and being alone after killing Berkut(which is such a stupid name) and Rudolph, but we never see any hints to that except in the prologue. Really hard to feel for Alm as a result. Especially since I think having to care for someone because they're blood-related is stupid. Like Alm has had no good experiences with those two at all, and yet is all sad about killing them. I also found Almelica(AlmxCelica) to have a poor basis as I gathered form the dialogue in the prologue she's been in Ram for a... month or so? Yeah, that's enough to form a lifelong crush. Gods, I hated those scenes. Forms the backbone of the plot, but I can't give a damn about it.