Prims

Both Strawman and Kevin are good targets on the ground the PoE has basically eliminated everyone else. I think Kevin is the better lynch, but both work, honestly.

He complied to voting off scum!Snike when I was the only one pressing him to do so, so yeah, him being town seems pretty likely.

...huh, we can directly quote SMSes? But yeah, that sounds about right.

Would still like an answer to this, if it matters (probably not too much, but it does confirm my role).

##Vote Kevin Taking Paper's word about him and Strawman being the best targets. I think the JB interactions with Kevin were more likely to be a bus than the Snike interactions with Strawman, since on D2 Snike would have been bussing Strawman right after the scumteam took a huge hit. I also imagine Snike would have been the one bussed and not the other way around if Snike/Strawman were buddies, since Snike was apathetic about the game while Strawman was not.

I'm down with that. Did Bal tell you about what happened with me C2? If not, I can SMS you about it, though you probably won't receive it until Kaoz gets online. Also, Kay is probably not scum because of stuff, which means I was wrong. I'd personally lynch Kevin over Strawman based on the eclipse NK and Strawman's interactions with Snike.

Also, ##Unvote. Going to wait until this claim business is solved before thinking about ProtoKay/Kevin/Psycore/Strawman. I have only received one claim so far.

Probably so. Scum needs 4 mislynches to win with 1 alive, 3 mislynches to win with 2 alive. We only have 4 lynch targets right now. Honestly, we could probably solve this by public massclaim, but putting myself into a position of power over everyone sure is a lot more fun.

why are 22 guests viewing this thread Anyway, I'd particularly like claims from Kevin and Kay, since they're the most worrisome today.

Strawman is likely town for the reasons I already stated. Thinking Kevin is town based on this Snike post. This part: makes me think that Snike knew Kevin was town. His attack operated from the mindset that JB was town, and was redirecting suspicion onto Kevin instead. Redirecting suspicion from your buddy who's getting lynched to your other buddy who people are reading as town would honestly be pretty worthless for the scum agenda, all things considered. Balcerzak backed up Core's claim, and I'm honestly not sure how a Vanilla Townie and a Nurse can't co-exist. For all we know, there could be multiple Vanillas. This leaves us with... ##Vote Kay I don't recall you ever getting more of a mention than a "yeah you need to post more" from either of our flipped scum, and even though JB pushed your wagon for lurker pressure, he was very quick to drop it and ignore you when people started attacking him. Also, you were the only person voting for non-flipped-scum at the end of D1, which definitely isn't looking that great in hindsight. Finally, I'm going to be obvscum and nominate myself as an alternate town leader while Bal is silenced (if the cop is willing to SMS me his scan), because: Bal himself should be able to confirm my role, given the SMS I just sent him (if he can't when he's not silenced, then I get lynched) I'm not going to be the main driving force between two back-to-back scum lynches unless I want to lose the game, that's retarded. If this was Vanilla Only Mafia it could maybe work, but this is a game where there's a cop and presumably a Tracker/Watcher around to out anybody attempting to win by bussing their buddies then coasting to endgame, so that shit's not going to fly here. I'm willing to vicariously defend my townieness if people don't trust me on this.

(the actual post said silence so yeah I guess you're right)

From my experience, silence just prevents speaking, not voting. But different forums, different mafia dialects, etc

Hmmm Current readslist wordpad file: That's like half the game PoE'd. If the cop can somehow get his results out with Bal silenced, that'd be excellent. Still worried by how Protokay and Kevin haven't been doing much since receiving clears. I think another look at them may be in order.

Actually, place Strawman in the "not confirmed town but pretty close" bin too. Last I checked, scum's reaction to losing a buddy on D1 is typically not to bus another buddy the following day. They don't have those kinds of numbers.

Also, was anybody roleblocked last night? Because if they were, then that confirms the existance of a 4-man scumteam (or that scum can kill and use actions at the same time), since I really doubt a townie would kidnap Bal.

Imagine I placed a really badass shades emoticon here. I don't have any good ones on hand. People who might as well be confirmed town: - Balcerzak - Levity - Naglfar People who aren't confirmed town but are pretty close: - ~me~ - Paperblade And then we have Kevin and ProtoKay who should probably be obvtown, but might need re-evaluation. That's like half the game. I'm 100% certain on Balcerzak town for reasons that aren't just "he got kidnapped".

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How many hours left?

Weren't we supposed to vote NL, or did we decide that was a bad idea?

If that happens, we could just have two people vote NL, and a third who isn't Naglfar vote the person Naglfar is to vote for

I would like to hear some opinions regarding what I'm saying about Snike, of course. I dunno if I'll be around for deadline, given that it's Christmas break and I happen to love sleeping in to ridiculous lengths whenever possible. Try not to let the end of the day become a total clusterfuck, regardless of whether or not I'm there to witness it.

tl;dr have somebody vote NL and have Naglfar vote Snike if he's okay with it

This is now the Prims Stream Of Consciousness Thread. The problem with lynching Snike would be that he hasn't claimed and I'd feel pretty irritated if we had to out a ~THIRD CLAIM~ today, but on the other hand, Psycore's Nurse claim feels more believable thanks to Bal. ... I still want to lynch Snike anyway. Dude's been kept his vote down on Strawman for disappearing, then promptly disappeared while still advocating Strawman's lynch, which is honestly pretty silly and doesn't look like a town effort even if he is feeling unmotivated.

...though, does anybody feel like lynching Snike for blatant hypocrisy on that Strawman vote, which is now looking like a really convenient votepark for scum!Snike in hindsight?

...wait, no it wouldn't, because scum isn't allowed to kill on N1. Which could actually be a way of preventing early LYLO due to four scum, but I still think four scum is a bit steep for 12p either way. Ah, fuck, let's go with Paper's plan anyway. Still nominating Psycore for lynch.