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  1. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    Well, shit, now I have to do a captcha to post? This is my last post for now, and if I don't respond to you, oh well. It's ironic that the game is easier to read after dumping all of my thoughts, but now I'm having problems stringing things together. Nagito's earliest ED1 is a conversation with Kokichi. It's rather refreshing, amidst all the accusations. Actually, I like this slot's D1. It's direct, and much easier on the mind than Mello (I'm taking responses in a vacuum, and I'm still not happy with him) and Toshio (who did not get to the point). While the second paragraph is an interesting point at the time, it's now irking, given who was lynched D2 and is currently sitting at L-1 on D3. Where's the scumreads on the most active players (this is to everyone)? This in D2 is confusing as hell, because Mello can't be BBM, and buddy himself. Doctor vote is also a null, since it didn't seem like it was particularly serious. Furthermore, Kratos wasn't about to be lynched, short of people thinking that mafia had both doctor and strongman. I don't like this, because fucking up random things in the game doesn't make someone town/scum (this applies to Mello as well). I don't know what time the phase ends, am I town or scum? The answer is that it's irrelevant, because it has nothing to do with my alignment, and everything to do with a lack of reading comprehension. Not that it matters, because all I know is that it's D3, and not the beginning of the phase. I can't read the Toshio interactions for crap. I can read the Lapis ones, at least. I think Nagito comes out much better between the two. I'm going to address random Kokichi/random stuff in here, because I don't have the time/patience for another post. Disagree with this, because first-pick mafia would most likely go after vengeful, not doctor. Speaking of the claim, it was somewhat out of the blue, but I can't fault Kratos for it. Better to get that out of the way early, given who was behind that alias. Given my stance on Nagito, I like this vote by Lapis a lot less. I mentioned it earlier, but with more context, it now stands out as really bad. Trying to get stuff out of associative reads is decent D2 play. Definitely not worth voting Nagito over. This was probably the best case against Faye. Then again, if I was vengeful and wanting to be lynched, I'd intentionally get everyone mad, as opposed to being flat-out grumpy because I'm tired to the point of having issues with a captcha. I don't know when the phase ends, and I don't want the current lynch. I'm doing this in order to figure out who I'd like to lynch instead. So, after rereading everything again, here's what I have: Feeling better about The Batter, despite not really existing D3. Posting style is pretty direct, and if I feel something needs explanation, I'll bug him about it. Not scumreading this slot ATM, but I want to see more come D4. I'm still not feeling the Endeavor lynch. But if there's no time for another wagon, then this would be purely for associative reads. I really wish I was in this slot at the beginning of the game, because this feels like it's going to be Crowler Mk. 2, and I would've hard-defended him until the sub request. I haven't said crap about Kokichi, and I need to change that. Biggest ping right now is putting Endeavor at L-1. With the sheer number of subs happening, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for one to do a quick skim, vote Endeavor for earlier content, and inadvertently hammer. Like The Batter, I don't remember much of them on D3. Then again, if this was a scumtell, I'd flip a coin and vote one of Kokichi/Batter. Which I'm not going to do. Needs better activity come D4, given today's Endeavor shenanigans. I'm not scumreading this slot now, but I really need to read their posts in-depth. Mello/Lapis' various "slips" are a lack of reading comprehension, not necessarily town/scum. I've called out random mechanical things before, because it's something noteworthy. Because if those two slips really are town, then me not knowing the end phase time and attempting to cram everything in should also be a towntell. Except that it's not. Speaking of, Mello's D1 wasn't great, but I like his later content. Lapis is the exact opposite. Toshio's words to content raito still bugs the crap out of me. Mostly everyone else managed to RP without it interfering with my reads on them, and I don't have time to sit down and translate every single thing, while stripping out all the irrelevant stuff. I'll get a better opinion on him later. I'm not commenting too much on Omar because I'm out of time. I'm not scumreading this slot. For now, I'm going to drop a vote here: ##Unvote ##Vote: Lapis Lazuli That vote on Nagito for the associative reads is what did it. It also feels like you're still sort-of scumreading him. Kokichi's case had some merit, but yours? I can't get behind those reasons. It's not much of a case, but given the state of my mind (I'm way too tired to dig up quotes and analyze each and every one of them), it's the strongest scum read I have among the living players. I'd have something on Toshio, if I could get to the heart of his posts. It's the wordiness that pings me, but it's not enough to warrant a vote. Good night, and maybe I'll be back in time. If I'm lynched, I hope this proves helpful. But at least you'll remember me, which is better than what I can say about my predecessors!
  2. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    Starting here, it's a RVS analysis. Except there's a lot of it. I agree with that vote on my slot earlier, because whoever the hell had this slot originally had a shoddy early-mid D1 showing. That's the time to poke, prod, and talk with everyone, not clam up. Which means I have very limited time to interact with as many of you as possible, so I can be useful if I'm lynched/killed. Biggest thing that bugs me about this is the lack of analysis on everyone else. Bugging the inactive slot is one thing, but it also requires associative reads from the active players. From what I can read, it looks like the issue with Crowler was targeting not-active players. Yet Faye was lynched and Endeavor was at L-1 for a while. This is really hypocritical, and I suspect it's part of the reason why I'm having issues with my reads and rereads. Yet Mello wasn't lynched on D2, Faye was. The more I read of this townslip, the more convinced I am that it's a nullslip. Yes, I'm looking at it from hindsight, but the supposed actions that should've happened, well, didn't. And Crowler outright claimed vanilla, so why even bother with the night kill? He was prime mislynch material. If I'm not posting stuff from you (or anyone else), it means it didn't ping me enough to comment on it. There's 700+ posts in this game, I don't have time for a post-by-post breakdown of every last person. @Omar Little I'm sorry this is taking a while. I started on Nagito, and then THIS happened. To the rest of the game: Why would I raise eight hundred ways of hell when Endeavor was at L-1, and WHY would I attempt to hard-defend him? And then, why would I post a bunch of things that are contradictory to the rest of the game logic? Scum strategy would be to be more active than the last two posters, without drawing lynch attention away from Endeavor. I'm going to make myself useful, even if I'm a corpse. Now back to rereading Nagito. Who has way more posts than anyone else so far. FML.
  3. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    I think it's null, not faked. There's nothing more to it.
  4. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    I read the entire game in one sitting. You do that and tell me whether or not your brain would be fried. I'll do a more detailed reading of Mello/Batter later. But not now, because I have bigger fish to fry.
  5. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    Next: Lapis First Lapis, come back, we need you. The RP was a little weird, but I could understand her points. I don't like this - vote or don't, but being passive about it accomplishes nothing. Don't agree that Omar is town based on role, because night phases are great for thought-out posts without having to worry about a bunch of random notifications. Likewise, don't agree with that Nagito vote, since prodding people based on a newly-flipped scum is legit, especially early in the phase. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. I love the associative read with Nagito, since that seems to be Lapis' thing. Like Toshio, I'm not really happy with this slot sitting on a single scum read. Which means I need to read Nagito, despite the fact that I'm beginning to hallucinate a bit.
  6. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    From a scum PoV, it can be used to drive a mislynch further. From a player PoV, if it was a drafting error, it affects the entire game. Hence why I don't put too much stock into it. Yes, Nagito, that includes your quote. Well, as long as it means you actually have more than that Endeavor read, that's great. If you're open to people that agree with your logic, mafia simply needs an opinion or two that jives, and you're less likely to suspect them. If you're mafia, then it's a lot easier to take on someone else's opinion as your own. No matter what you're alignment, it's bad play at best, and scummy at worst. I lost my Lapis place again. At this rate, I won't have time for Nagito/Kokichi.
  7. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    Your first post was on page 19. BBM announced it on page 18. Still trying to read through everything, but it's no fun when SF randomly decides that it doesn't like page 21. Mello's coordinate thing is null, because Crowler flipped town (hindsight, etc., etc.). I'd call that sort of thing out regardless of alignment.
  8. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    Not when it's someone that isn't posting that much. It's why I really didn't like Faye's lynch D2, even if that slot needed to go. Almost all of her associative reads are weak. Trying to figure out where Lapis subbed out. I think it's somewhere between pages 11 and 19, but SF is loading those pages slowly FSR.
  9. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    Next: Toshio Why did I agree to sub in? Why do I hate myself so? Ugh, here goes. For the sake of my sanity, I'm going to condense this guy's posts into points. First votes Kratos for his vote on Endeavor, citing Kokichi self-vote as the reason. This is weird, because it's both passive and aggressive at the same time, but boils down to "I just have an issue with your vote on Endeavor, not the other voters". This is basically the bullet point above, but way longer. Don't agree that Mello was really contributing well here - there were three content posts total, two of which were him sitting back and commenting on other votes. Also, the logic of "I agree with it so he must be town" is just bad. I sure as hell didn't agree with Mello's conclusion that Lapis was scum (later in the game), but I think it's a good case regardless. This interests me from a voting PoV. Scum!Toshio would've known that Crowler wasn't scum, so why suddenly vote Endeavor? From the words PoV, blargh. This could literally have been the first blurb, and been fine. I don't like this at all. Form your own reads, don't rely on others to read people as town/mafia. I do like his interactions with Nagito, though. Sometimes, he even gets to the point! One of the stronger associative reads IMO. It's not helpful now, but the fact that it exists is nice. I'm really not liking his Endeavor tunnel for most of the phase. Why stick to someone with sketchy content? Current vote priority is Toshio > Mello > The Batter. Between the extra words and his stance on Endeavor, I'm not too happy.
  10. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    Next poster: The Batter Starts off pretty strong D1, complete with an interesting vote on Titania. I think what threw me was this - despite mentioning this behavior from Endeavor, The Batter's tone shifts to a more passive one somewhere along the line. I'm not sure what to make of this. I'm going to continue reading, and maybe I'll make more sense. @Omar Little - Deal with it, I just read the entire game. I felt like modkilling myself after page 5. If I was smarter, I'd go to bed now, and let my subconscious sort it out. However, time's short, so I'm going to go over as much as I can, and hope that I can get something coherent out before phase end. Right now, my thoughts are all over the place.
  11. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    First poster: Mello. My issue with his D1 was that he posts a lot of indirect comments. For example, this has four different people, but the only content that isn't a direct comment about someone else's actions is the Endeavor lynch. And even that is an indirect comment about others. In contrast, this is a direct comment. Shame it's on a mafia member, but it was the best example I could find. It gets better once D2 rolls around. This is a good post, though, since it conflicts with my first!Lapis read with some nice points. Due to the sub-out, and the lack of proper context elsewhere, I'm going to leave it at that. The D1 antics bother me, but it's not enough to warrant a vote, unless everyone else is obvtown on a second read. Yes, I'm going to devote a post to every single reread. I don't know how long it will take, and I'd rather have my thoughts out now than later.
  12. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    I'm done with my initial read, and I have a gigantic headache. Following everyone's logic is damn hard when I'm thrown into a situation where there may or may not be a near-hammer. I'll start with an impressionpost, then reread everyone in-depth and get something more solid. Screw all of you for lynching my strongest townread on D1. I actually liked Crowler's logic, right up until that sub request. Rick/Titania's interactions ED1 made me want to publicly post my role PM so I wouldn't have to deal with them. Kudos to them for offing each other. Faye's biggest mistake IMO was not interacting more. That was a null lynch, and it's irritating. RIP Kratos, thanks mafia for getting rid of another player I didn't want to interact with. Would've pressed him on D3, had he lived, since he became very forgettable after his claim. I didn't have a very positive opinion about Endeavor until here. This was the towniest reaction to those votes that I could think of. The only reason why I'd place a vote here at this point would be on associative reads and lack of time. Is there enough time to move the wagon? Didn't have a very good opinion of Mello, but don't ask me to dig up quotes right now. This will happen come the second, in-depth read. Will decide whether or not I want to lynch this slot then. I keep forgetting that The Batter exists. At this stage in the game, it's bad. Like, Omar doesn't post as much as The Batter, but I remember more of his content (in a good way). Toshio's words to content ratio is awful. Like Mello, I need to reread this slot in depth. Unlike Mello, this is going to be exceedingly painful. Lapis' slot utterly confuses me. I liked the first Lapis, but am not as fond of the second one. Nagito's posting makes my head spin, but it's not as bad as Rick/Titania/Toshio. I don't really remember much else about this slot, and that's not a good thing. Kokichi needs to cut out the nicknames, because I'm having enough issues tracking who's who. Less headache-inducing than Nagito. Most memorable thing ATM is putting Endeavor at L-1. I don't like this, because of the sheer number of sub requests. A less careful sub would vote first and ask questions later. I regret subbing in already. Rather than do a proper lynch list, I'm going to reread Mello, The Batter, Toshio, Lapis, Nagito, and Kokichi, in that order. Not really feeling Endeavor/Omar as scum.
  13. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    I'm here. Need to read everything.
  14. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    @The Batter IIRC you had a townread on me. Yet your cases on both Endeavor and Faye list them being lazy/non-contributing. Am I not guilty of the same? Have I not myself admitted to being lazy? Why don't you suspect me as much as either of them?
  15. Antihero Anonydraft Mafia (Game Over)

    But that means I need to read D1 again... no... Rick claimed to be wholeheartedly committed to an Endeavor lynch, but his logic throughout the case was rather weak. He could've folded on it given just one good post from Endeavor. There was still room for backing out of this, but Rick never had to. That's typical of scum logic. I can see how people would get scum/town vibes from this, but I don't feel like those feelings are strong enough to discount Endeavor's scummy behavior. He's lying low and I don't like that. Speaking of lying low, I still really don't like Kratos' content. Him being doctor is something that's hard to get around, but what if scum drafted other early numbers, so that they could competently draft a few pro-town roles for camouflage? Then again, I have an extreme prejudice against Kratos' playstyle. I just don't like firebrands, and find them scummy. It's a problem of mine.