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I've actually encountered this argument a LOT of times, and it's never gotten a definite conclusion. Naga carved Falchion out of her fang, and the might of this weapon has been able to defeat the likes of Medeus, the Earth Dragon prince, who later became a Dark Dragon. It was stated by Gotoh in both Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem that without Falchion, there was no hope of defeating Medeus. By Awakening's time, Falchion in its full power is said by Naga to rival her own might, and can be used to seal Grima away. A Valentian Falchion by Echoes has been used to defeat Duma, another Divine Dragon. However, now we go onto the Book of Naga. As Kaga stated, its a magical tome that Naga placed her will and power into, and Forseti claims that without Naga's power, it was unlikely that they would be able to defeat Loptyr. Loptyr is a powerful Earth Dragon that seems to also have cases of being a Dark Dragon as well. Now here's the question. Which is stronger? Falchion or the Book of Naga? Both were created by Naga, and both were the only weapons that could defeat the dragon (or dragon powered) enemy that the heroes were fighting against. And Falchion has been stated by Kaga to be created in a similar method to that of the Jugdral Holy Weapons. But unlike Book of Naga, it seems that the Falchion does not have the case of the will of Naga possessing the host. Would that make Falchion inferior? There was never any confirmation on that being the case, and by Awakening, Falchion has been confirmed to rival the might of Naga herself. And this is where the other topic comes. To question on whether Falchion or Book of Naga is stronger, which is stronger for the dragon that was used against for it? Medeus or Loptyr? Which Earth Dragon was stronger? So share your thoughts on who you think is stronger, and therefore which weapon is therefore stronger as well. My personal belief is that Falchion is the stronger of the two, or at the very least, the two weapons rival one another.
Awakening did a poor job of keeping the continuity set up by Shadow Dragon and New Mystery of the Emblem, having retconned quite a bit of the lore. Examples: Medeus' revival, Lucina's ability to use the Falchion, geography, degenerating, and so forth I want to here others' takes on it, but I'll probably still debate (not in a mean way) that there is just about no continuity.
Title says all so I was wondering as I just recently got done playing Dark Dragon and Sword of Light. At one point on one of the chapters Garnef tells Marth that Medeus is of no threat to him and that he has him completely under his control with the Falchion and Mafu/Imhullu in his hands. So I was wondering is this true? Or is he just bluffing? Could Garnef really if he wanted to beat Medeus? Is he strong enough to do it? Seeing as to how early he ''dies'' in the game he doesn`t even make it to the final chapter to fight alongside Medeus. So yeah what do you guys think? Game stats aside I wonder if Garnef truly could put down Medeus if he wanted I mean I guess he could since he is immortal with Mafu and only Starlight could hurt him..But Medeus is half immortal too since Earth Dragons cannot be harmed normally well they can be is just hard. And seeing as to how Medeus is I think if he heard that he would totally turn on Garnef and try and take him down he seems like that type.
Just call me AL posted a topic in General Fire EmblemWhat's kinda bugged me recently is that the games never mention exactly how a Manakete is able to become a Shadow Dragon, or whether it's a transformation that's exclusive to the strongest of Earth Dragons or not. I mean, you got guys like Medeus and (later) Loptyr. Both of whom are Earth Dragons, and both are (or at least Medeus is) capable of assuming the form of a Shadow Dragon. So far the transformation seems exclusive to Earth Dragons, with the Shadow Dragon transformation itself seeming like a "super form" of sorts. (That is the best way I can describe it, to be honest.) Then comes Idun, a Divine Dragon, who is forced to assume a form that is arguably noticeably similar to Shadow Dragon. (Granted, her dragon form in Binding Blade is referred to as a DEMON Dragon, but her appearance and the fact that she has "Dark Breath" as a usable weapon, does bring the Shadow Dragon transformation to my mind at least. It might have also been on Firelizard's mind too when he translated Binding Blade, considering what name he gave her dragon form in said translation.) Then you've got Grima, who is implied in the "Artbook of God" to be a descendant of the Earth Dragons. Now I know I proposed the theory that Grima's supposed to be a mass fusion of the Earth Dragons at the Dragon's Table, but that doesn't mean I'm not confused as to why his dragon form looks like it takes Medeus's and Loptyr's Shadow Dragon forms one step further with his own Fell Dragon form. Then you've got games by Shouzou Kaga, the father of Fire Emblem. Like TearRing Saga, which while not technically Fire Emblem, does seem to suggest that the Shadow Dragon transformation is something ALL dragons can achieve. Earth Dragons, Divine Dragons, maybe even Fire Dragons for all I know. (I am admittedly kinda spoiled to the fact that TearRing Saga's final boss is technically a human who managed to transform into a dragon by ingesting some dragon blood, but work with me people.) If that's true for the FE series, then it would explain the aforementioned similarities between Idun's Demon Dragon form and Medeus's and Loptyr's Shadow Dragon form. But even so, there doesn't seem to be specific instance that involves an onscreen transformation to a Shadow Dragon and a Manakete that had a completely different dragon form beforehand. And the dragon blood ingestion triggering the transformation, to me seems like a one-time thing that involved a human. Not a Manakete or a similar race. Seeing as whether dragon blood ingestion (or infusion) is the trigger behind such an event or not. But yeah. Does the fact that the circumstances behind this particular Manakete transformation hasn't been really gone into detail in the FE games bug anyone on here?