Chocolate Kitty Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) if by palette you mean the map palette, those are easy as anything if you mean the in battle stuff, that can be imported as well, although I don't remember the western isles having anything special Edited March 3, 2012 by Kitty of Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Yes. It does. We've inported Tower of Valni tiles to FE7. I don't see why it won't work importing stuff to FE8. It's not whether it wouldn't work, but whether you've actually created a custom tileset by setting tile properties which didn't previously exist. if you mean the in battle stuff, that can be imported as well, although I don't remember the western isles having anything special This is basically what I mean. The properties which tells the game what kind of terrain a specific tile is, what background to use during battles, does it have any special traits attached to it such as restoring or diminishing HP, what units can traverse it which can't, movement costs, etc.. It'd be nice if the map property data was the same across all three, but if it isn't, you have to naturally accommodate for the conversion (like if in FE6, trait 06 might be a healing tile but in FE7 it might be a breakable wall or an arena, and if you don't update the properties, your tile--all the tiles--could make for a wacky experience). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I'm preeeetty sure it works, mainly due to IS's laziness in doing things. Like how FE6 is built directly off of FE7, FE8 shares a lot of similarities in tables and things, if not so much the overall game structure :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 This is basically what I mean. The properties which tells the game what kind of terrain a specific tile is, what background to use during battles, does it have any special traits attached to it such as restoring or diminishing HP, what units can traverse it which can't, movement costs, etc.. It'd be nice if the map property data was the same across all three, but if it isn't, you have to naturally accommodate for the conversion (like if in FE6, trait 06 might be a healing tile but in FE7 it might be a breakable wall or an arena, and if you don't update the properties, your tile--all the tiles--could make for a wacky experience). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I'm preeeetty sure it works, mainly due to IS's laziness in doing things. Like how FE6 is built directly off of FE7, FE8 shares a lot of similarities in tables and things, if not so much the overall game structure :P Yeah, but FE8 was built directly on FE7. We don't know if FE7 was built directly on FE6, or if they just reused the engine. (This means, FE8 is an extensive hack of FE7; it is a remodeled FE7, so it's not surprising that importing stuff between the two is supported, if the data was never really radically changed). But it certainly is a boon that the FE7-FE8 conversion is that simple. Hopefully FE6 won't be any more troublesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 It seems like FE7 would be a hack of FE6 even more so :P A looooooot more stuff is reused in FE7, like the stat screen and the battle frame and crap, plus map data (including palettes) and eeeeeeverything :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celice Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 It seems like FE7 would be a hack of FE6 even more so :P A looooooot more stuff is reused in FE7, like the stat screen and the battle frame and crap, plus map data (including palettes) and eeeeeeverything :P That stuff can easily be ported over if the engines are similar enough. I'm considering the fact that the map sizes operate differently between FE6 and FE7, which might indicate that the engine was forked into FE7, rather than developped into FE7 (that is that unlike FE7 becoming FE8 direction, FE6's engine was taken and used to built a new game, rather than building off FE6). Then again, were there any remnants of other data from FE6 being in FE7, like the female mercenary? That's a good indication that it is built. Rather than take for granted that it is, I'd prefer we actually know it is, is all :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanami Touko Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Then again, were there any remnants of other data from FE6 being in FE7, like the female mercenary? You mean Hero. Also, Omni, how come Marcus has FE8 colors up in your screens, and Roy doesn't? Edited March 3, 2012 by seph1212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Nah, seph, there's an unused "female" mercenary. No animation but it has a different map sprite. (Which actually appears male) but it follows the male merc in the class table, which is the general format, male then female then the male promo, then the female promo, so chances are that's what it was planned to be :P Lol I talk a lot Edit: and yes Celice, actually there were :P Many of the classes were there in the table, their map sprites were there as well, but they lacked animations. (Such as female shamans and druids as well) Edited March 3, 2012 by Jubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanami Touko Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Lol you do talk a lot but that map sprite (I know which one you're talking about) doesn't really look female at all. I think it was the beta mercenary map sprite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 I know, but given the way it's entered as a class in the class array would indicate it's a female version of the one previous to it (mercenary) Might have the "female" ability too And Iknowright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onmi Posted March 3, 2012 Author Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) You mean Hero. Also, Omni, how come Marcus has FE8 colors up in your screens, and Roy doesn't? Simple, Sholes has recolored Marcus but not Roy. I'm no mugger, so that avenue is lost to me. there are somethings in this world that I can do, others I cannot, and for those things I must rely on others. Together we fight, together we live and all that jazz. And it's Onmi >.< why does everyone call me Omni?! It's like I took a real word and corrupted it or something EDIT: Sweet switched to Joshua, someone I recognize at least Edited March 3, 2012 by Onmi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanami Touko Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Oh so it is prolly because Omni is a word that people recognize and their brains don't notice the n and m switch since they're so close to each other in both the word and appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sholes Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 Oh so it is prolly because Omni is a word that people recognize and their brains don't notice the n and m switch since they're so close to each other in both the word and appearance. I noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eail Posted March 4, 2012 Share Posted March 4, 2012 Wendy as the starting Knight instead of Bors? HELL YES! A THOUSAND TIMES YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Nah, seph, there's an unused "female" mercenary. No animation but it has a different map sprite. (Which actually appears male) but it follows the male merc in the class table, which is the general format, male then female then the male promo, then the female promo, so chances are that's what it was planned to be :P Lol I talk a lot Edit: and yes Celice, actually there were :P Many of the classes were there in the table, their map sprites were there as well, but they lacked animations. (Such as female shamans and druids as well) Female Druids are used as enemies in FE7, they should have animations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowofchaos Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 Female Druids are used as enemies in FE7, they should have animations. Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliban of Sycorax Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 The map sprite's there but not the battle animation. In FE8 they're there, though. Animation and map sprite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 5, 2012 Share Posted March 5, 2012 I think it's the same with female nomads. I KNOW I saw at least two female nomads on Uhai's map in EHM, but whenever I battle them with animations on, they have the male nomad battle sprite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 That female druid thing actually made me really mad when I played through, I was so excited for new animations :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubby Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Oh what the fuck, I rarely double post.. :/ Edited March 6, 2012 by Jubby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) I was really confused at first when I fought a female nomad trooper and got the male battle sprite. I was like, "huh? I could've sworn that trooper was a female ..." until I realized that there was no female battle sprite. Edit: Ah! My badge changed! As soon as I post off Marty, I get Tormod~ Edited March 6, 2012 by Boron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Book of Ereshkigal Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Didn't FE8 do the opposite? Females had the male map sprites and female battle sprites. I know shamans were like that, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunwoo Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Did it? I don't realize ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinKuma Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 They do. Well for the female Shaman and Druid anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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