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[Final Fantasy VI] Ah, we're back to the best FF game ever

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Well, with the formation of a Final fantasy 4 draft, you'd probably think its time before one of VI would come up, right? Well, here we are.

Rules:

1. Drafted characters are used only. If some undrafted char is compulsory, knock him out.
2. You can go and try to take down Kefka if you want after Setzer and team assemble. You'll probably want to recruit you drafted characters though.
3. You can do optional sidequests too, like Cyan's dream. Note that it'll probably be a headache doing so if Cyan's not drafted.
4. Drafting order will be 12344321

Exemptions:


I can't think of any more rules or stuff I should apply over here. I'll change the rules if needed later on.

Character List:
[Spoiler= "Character List"]
Terra (until route split)
Locke (until route split)
Edgar (until route split)
Sabin (until route split)
Terra (until Narshe)
Edgar (until Narshe)
Locke (until Tunnel Armour)
Celes (until Tunnel Armour)
[s]Sabin (until Nikeah)[/s]
Cyan (until Nikeah)
Gau (until Nikeah)
-----
[s]Locke (until end WoB)[/s]
Edgar (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Sabin (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Celes (until IMRF)
Gau (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Cyan (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Setzer (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Mog (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
[s]Terra (until end WoB)[/s]
Strago (until end WoB)
Relm (until end WoB)
Edgar (until end WoB)
Celes (until end WoB)
Sabin (until end WoB)
Gau (until end WoB)
Cyan (until end WoB)
Setzer (until end WoB)
Mog (until end WoB)
Shadow (until end WoB)
---
[s]WoR Terra[/s]
[s]WoR Locke
WoR Edgar
WoR Sabin
WoR Shadow
WoR Cyan
WoR Gau
WoR Celes
WoR Mog
WoR Strago
WoR Relm
WoR Setzer
Gogo[/s]
Umaro
[/spoiler]


Participants:
1. General Horace- Locke (Narshe to end of WoB), WoR Locke, WoR Relm, Gogo, Sabin(until Nikeah), Cyan( Narshe to Cave of Sealed Gate), Gau(Narshe to Cave of Sealed Gate), Celes(until end of WoB), Cyan(Sealed Gate to WoB), Locke until tunnel armour and route split.. Fuck it, you have locke for the whole game.)
2.Bblader- Terra WoR, Setzer WoR, Shadow WoR, Edgar (Narshe to Sealed Gate), Sabin (Narshe to Sealed Gate), Shadow(Floating Continent), Sabin(until route split), Umaro
3. Marth- Mog WoR, Edgar WoR, Gau WoR, Strago(WoR), Edgar( Sealed Gate to end of WoB), Mog(Sealed Gate to end of WoB), Strago(until end of WoB), Celes(Narshe to IMRF),Cyan(until Nikeah), Gau(until Nikeah)
4- Whitefang- Celes WoR, Sabin WoR, WoR Cyan, Terra (Sealed Gate to end of WoB), Relm(Until end of WoB), Edgar(Until Narshe), Mog( until Sealed gate), Setzer(Until Sealed Gate), Terra(until route split and then until Narshe), Gau(Until end og WoB)

Basically, you can draft anyone from the list I posted at any time (not like the FE4 drafts). The rules work the same as the FFIV incarnation. Lowest score (-1 for every level that a drafted character has that is less than the boss's level) wins.

As for optional bosses, you may fight them and they will be added to your score. So if I fight Yeti even with no intention of recruiting Umaro, it still gets added to my score. Your final score only becomes official after defeating Kefka but it freezes once you dispose of the Warring Triad.

[Spoiler="Boss Levels"]
[b][color="#660066"]Ymir[/color] [color="#006666"]6[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Guard[/color] [color="#660066"]Leader[/color] [color="#006666"]8[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Magitek[/color] [color="#660066"]Armour[/color] [color="#006666"]8[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Vargas[/color] [color="#006666"]12[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ultros[/color] [color="#666600"]([/color][color="#006666"]1[/color][color="#666600"])[/color] [color="#006666"]13[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Phantom[/color] [color="#660066"]Train[/color] [color="#006666"]14[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Rhizopas[/color] [color="#006666"]13[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Tunnel[/color] [color="#660066"]Armour[/color] [color="#006666"]16[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Hells[/color] [color="#660066"]Rider[/color] [color="#006666"]14[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Kefka[/color] [color="#006666"]18[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Dadaluma[/color] [color="#006666"]22[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ultros[/color] [color="#666600"]([/color][color="#006666"]2[/color][color="#666600"])[/color] [color="#006666"]19[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ifrit[/color][color="#666600"]/[/color][color="#660066"]Shiva[/color] [color="#006666"]21[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Number[/color] [color="#006666"]024[/color] [color="#006666"]24[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Number[/color] [color="#006666"]128[/color] [color="#006666"]23[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Cranes[/color] [color="#006666"]23[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Flame[/color] [color="#660066"]Eater[/color] [color="#006666"]26[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ultros[/color] [color="#666600"]([/color][color="#006666"]3[/color][color="#666600"])[/color] [color="#006666"]25[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ultros[/color] [color="#666600"]([/color][color="#006666"]4[/color][color="#666600"])[/color] [color="#006666"]26[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Typhon[/color] [color="#006666"]26[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Air[/color] [color="#660066"]Force[/color] [color="#006666"]25[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ultima[/color] [color="#660066"]Weapon[/color] [color="#006666"]37[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Nelapa[/color] [color="#006666"]26[/color][/b][b]

[color="#666600"]------------------[/color][/b][b]

[color="#660066"]Tentacles[/color] [color="#666600"]~[/color][color="#006666"]33[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Dullahan[/color] [color="#006666"]37[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Humbaba[/color] [color="#006666"]31[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Behemoth[/color] [color="#660066"]King[/color] [color="#666600"]~[/color][color="#006666"]46[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Chadarnook[/color] [color="#006666"]37[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Stooges[/color] [color="#006666"]47[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Wrexsoul[/color] [color="#006666"]53[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Hidon[/color] [color="#006666"]43[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Valigarmanda[/color] [color="#006666"]62[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Yeti[/color] [color="#006666"]33[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Master[/color] [color="#660066"]Tonberry[/color] [color="#006666"]73[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Samurai[/color] [color="#660066"]Soul[/color] [color="#006666"]68[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Deathgaze[/color] [color="#006666"]68[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Magic[/color] [color="#660066"]Master[/color] [color="#006666"]68[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Inferno[/color] [color="#006666"]67[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ultima[/color] [color="#660066"]Buster[/color] [color="#006666"]67[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Guardian[/color] [color="#006666"]67[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Fiend[/color] [color="#006666"]73[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Demon[/color] [color="#006666"]67[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Goddess[/color] [color="#006666"]68[/color][/b][b]

[color="#666600"]------------------[/color][/b][b]

[color="#660066"]Gigantuar[/color] [color="#006666"]97[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Leviathan[/color] [color="#006666"]91[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Storm[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]74[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Ice[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]74[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Blue[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]65[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Holy[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]71[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Red[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]67[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Earth[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]53[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Gold[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]62[/color][/b][b]
[color="#660066"]Skull[/color] [color="#660066"]Dragon[/color] [color="#006666"]62 [/spoiler][/color][/b] Edited by Marth

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Can't draft it like this.

I think we have to draft via scenarios. Like this:

Terra (until route split)
Locke (until route split)
Edgar (until route split)
Sabin (until route split)
Terra (until Narshe)
Edgar (until Narshe)
Locke (until Tunnel Armour)
Celes (until Tunnel Armour)
Sabin (until Nikeah)
Cyan (until Nikeah)
Gau (until Nikeah)
-----
[s]Locke (until end WoB)[/s] - Integrity
Edgar (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Sabin (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Celes (until IMRF)
Gau (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Cyan (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Setzer (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
Mog (until Cave to Sealed Gate)
[s]Terra (until end WoB)[/s] - Whitefang
Strago (until end WoB)
Relm (until end WoB)
Edgar (until end WoB)
Celes (until end WoB)
Sabin (until end WoB)
Gau (until end WoB)
Cyan (until end WoB)
Setzer (until end WoB)
Mog (until end WoB)
Shadow (until end WoB)
---
[s]WoR Terra[/s] - Life
[s]WoR Locke[/s] - Integrity
[s]WoR Edgar[/s] - Marth
[s]WoR Sabin[/s] - Whitefang
[s]WoR Shadow[/s] - Life
[s]WoR Cyan[/s] - Whitefang
WoR Gau
[s]WoR Celes[/s] - Whitefang
[s]WoR Mog[/s] - Marth
WoR Strago
[s]WoR Relm[/s] - Integrity
[s]WoR Setzer[/s] - Life
Gogo
Umaro


That should be the draft list. By the way, I'm in. Edited by Bblader

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Hm, with that list, it might be possible to have about 5-6 players...

I'll take that into consideration and see how many join.

FFVI isn't exactlly the best for a draft, I suppose. xD

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eh, what the hell, might as well join this too. I need something to do on the plane anyway.

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Update the draft list.

To me, this is the only way you can fairly draft the game. For example, I can just pick Sabin for WoR and not have him during WoB and still be able to have him kick ass in WoR. It's your choice to how you want to run the game. Do you want to power up certain characters? Or do you know when to use who and how?

I think a 4 person draft is the best way to do it. Take out both of Shadow's appearances before the FC and that's 44 picks, 11 each. Each person should end up with at least 3 people for their final team (defeating the Warring Triad is kinda tough but it's very possible since I did it with horrible equipment on my Fewest Steps Run and posted it on here with screenshots) and about 7 or so during the WoB (when you're constantly switching characters).

Use [url="http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=24318"]this[/url] thread to study how certain bosses work, most notably Guardian and Demon. You'll probably need the Blood Sword for both of them but especially Guardian. You'll find it in the Collapsing House in Tzen so don't worry about having to steal it. Edited by Bblader

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I tend to agree, I think more choices would be better. It just makes it easier to draft and say, "When is X available?" Well, this way you know for certain, and can plan your team better.

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In that case:

General Horace
Life
Marth
Whitefang


Horace, you're up.

EDIT: We'll figure out freebies on the way. My personal opinion is as follows (assuming that you don't have a draft pick in the scenario):

Terra - Free to route split
Sabin - Free vs. Vargas
Terra - Free to Narshe
Locke - Free full South Figaro
Celes - Free vs. Tunnel Armour
Sabin - Free to Nikeah
Celes/Locke - Free to end IMRF
Terra/Locke - Free to end WoB
Celes - Free until your first WoR draft pick

Humbaba fight: This is a toughie since Humbaba snorts away 2 characters in place for Terra. So I think that you should be allowed 3 people at most, any undrafted to fill slots where drafted don't exist.

Really simple. Dungeons like Zozo or the Sealed Cave need at least 2 people since they can be that tricky. Everything else requires only 1 and the right equipment/spells. Edited by Bblader

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Basically, you can draft anyone from the list I posted at any time (not like the FE4 drafts). The rules work the same as the FFIV incarnation. Lowest score (-1 for every level that a drafted character has that is less than the boss's level) wins.

As for optional bosses, you may fight them and they will be added to your score. So if I fight Yeti even with no intention of recruiting Umaro, it still gets added to my score. Your final score only becomes official after defeating Kefka but it freezes once you dispose of the Warring Triad.

[spoiler=List of boss levels][code]
Ymir 6
Guard Leader 8
Magitek Armour 8
Vargas 12
Ultros (1) 13
Phantom Train 14
Rhizopas 13
Tunnel Armour 16
Hells Rider 14
Kefka 18
Dadaluma 22
Ultros (2) 19
Ifrit/Shiva 21
Number 024 24
Number 128 23
Cranes 23
Flame Eater 26
Ultros (3) 25
Ultros (4) 26
Typhon 26
Air Force 25
Ultima Weapon 37
Nelapa 26

------------------

Tentacles ~33
Dullahan 37
Humbaba 31
Behemoth King ~46
Chadarnook 37
Stooges 47
Wrexsoul 53
Hidon 43
Valigarmanda 62
Yeti 33
Master Tonberry 73
Samurai Soul 68
Deathgaze 68
Magic Master 68
Inferno 67
Ultima Buster 67
Guardian 67
Fiend 73
Demon 67
Goddess 68

------------------

Gigantuar 97
Leviathan 91
Storm Dragon 74
Ice Dragon 74
Blue Dragon 65
Holy Dragon 71
Red Dragon 67
Earth Dragon 53
Gold Dragon 62
Skull Dragon 62[/code][/spoiler]

There's a list. If it's on there, it's fair game. Edited by Bblader

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I know this is a double post. But I'm doing it as a notification.

I'm going to the army on Sunday. I'll be back every 2/3 weeks or so. So I want to get this draft done.

Now, I can finish this kind of run in a single weekend so I'm not worried (I already know what I need to complete any given part). But I want to get the drafting part done today or tomorrow. So if General Horace doesn't show up, I'd like it if we can find someone else.

EDIT: Integrity is going to take General Horace's place. Simply because GH hasn't shown up for 2 days. Edited by Bblader

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If you're in such a hurry, I'll take Horace's spot.

Everybody else willing, that is.

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OKAY I HAVE VERY LITTLE IDEA WHAT I'M DOING

Locke until end WoB, why not. Edited by Integrity

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I'll be taking Mog WoR for Molulu's charm use.

Hrm... I didnt put exceptions in OP, did I? :facepalm:

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[quote name='Marth' date='21 December 2011 - 10:02 AM' timestamp='1324479753' post='1796956']
I'll be taking Mog WoR for Molulu's charm use.

Hrm... I didnt put exceptions in OP, did I? :facepalm:
[/quote]
FUCK. Stole my strategy. Was gonna do a Moogle run through the Cultist's Tower...

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[quote name='Whitefang' date='21 December 2011 - 10:05 AM' timestamp='1324479915' post='1796959']
Celes WoR, Sabin Narshe to end of WoB
[/quote]
Second pick is invalid. Simply because Sabin doesn't go to Thamasa and I broke it up into timelines.

Either Narshe to Sealed Gate or just FC. Your call. Edited by Bblader

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Well, there goes Sabin WoR. My favourite character. *sniff*

As payback, I pick Edgar WoR.

And there I have both dragoons in the bag. >:) Edited by Marth

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[quote name='Marth' date='21 December 2011 - 10:31 AM' timestamp='1324481508' post='1796972']
Well, there goes Sabin WoR. My favourite character. *sniff*

As payback, I pick Edgar WoR.

And there I have both dragoons in the bag. >:)
[/quote]
Second pick you've stolen from me. Doesn't matter, I've got Demon solved already and Fiend/Goddess are pretty simplistic.

WoR Setzer for me please.

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I guess that ends the first four of the WoR picks. Wow, that went real quick. xD

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