Gaggle of Geese Posted April 13, 2012 Share Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) I can't believe no one has posted this yet: Edited April 13, 2012 by Flock of Geese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirron Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) Personally speaking, I always felt Ike was gay as well. Same goes for Lucius, and no doubt others. And no doubt part of that is out of a desire to see gay figures in FE of course. Still, I definitely do think some progress is being made on that front, and while it's not quite as far as WRPG's, I do think FE and other JRPG's in general are starting to at least imply it a lot more heavily than before. At least to an extent where I feel it's justifiable to say that they are, and not where it's just my stretching facts to try and state something that isn't necessarily true. And gender roles-wise, Samus is definitely a good example of a strong female, and FE has other examples as well. Nintendo does a pretty good job at that, despite it being a more traditional company. Edited April 24, 2012 by Mirron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Raven Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 (edited) I can't believe no one has posted this yet: ike's "relationships" are about as gay as many man-man friendships before him i liked how SH2 handled homosexuals. they're twins and you bring them gay pornos, then they created a dress for Gepetto's doll (who was a little girl). also, very flamboyant. I've actually played the game, too, it's a beautiful game So...you only like gay characters who conform to stereotypes? I hope you're being sarcastic.yes i am, you think i really care if someone is homosexual in a video game? Edited April 24, 2012 by Lord Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroom Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 i always assumed raven and lucius were pretty gay but i feel like i've already expressed my opinion on them somewhere else and it may or may not be on this thread in particular also i never thought about ike's sexuality? never seemed to be brought up or picked at. soren on the other hand... but anyways, i always figured ike had so much to burden in his life that he didn't really care for romantics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Look to the Elder Scrolls series for an example of extreme gender equality. Everyone is just a person Given how disturbingly artificial TES is, ESPECIALLY the NPCS, I question the idea anyone there is a "person", but that's a topic for another day. What is on topic is how Skyrim just made any NPC the player can enter a romantic relationship with bi-sexual (or at least player-sexual), which I feel is a cheep cop-out. I think the only games I've played with a gay main character (that weren't just hopping on the "Make every love intrest bi-sexual for inclusive points") are the Swordcraft Story games, GrimGrimoire and Fear Effect 2 (which was done PURELY for a love triangle over a love arrow...). Swordcraft Story, for a game most famous for this it handles it better than Bioware has ever done (whos first actually gay and not player sexual character that wasn't cut because Lucasarts has no characterization beyond "dead husband bahhhh"). The (regular) jokes about it are pretty much all at how transparent Pratty's attempt to stay in the closet, despite various freudian slips, are rather than her sexuality itself. As the game progresses further, the closet jokes start to vanish and she openly gets excited over women ("The lovely twin sisters!") and will even accept the marriage proposals (!) of two women in her endings with them. Edited June 15, 2012 by deuxhero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Given how disturbingly artificial TES is, ESPECIALLY the NPCS, I question the idea anyone there is a "person", but that's a topic for another day. What is on topic is how Skyrim just made any NPC the player can enter a romantic relationship with bi-sexual (or at least player-sexual), which I feel is a cheep cop-out. I think the only games I've played with a gay main character (that weren't just hopping on the "Make every love intrest bi-sexual for inclusive points") are the Swordcraft Story games, GrimGrimoire and Fear Effect 2 (which was done PURELY for a love triangle over a love arrow...). Mass Effect has characters with pretty fixed sexual preferences. Only a few males and females will enter into homosexual relationships. But I agree that having every character with no sexual or romantic preference is hardly much of an improvement over having all characters be straight (which is at least a realistic approximation of a medieval society). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) DP Edited June 16, 2012 by deuxhero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 (edited) Only Mass Effect 3, and of the 2 in there, the ONLY characterization Cortez gets is "dead husband dead husband dead husband" (being friends with another party member and being a good pilot aren't personality). The reporter is more sensible, making a comment about liking a female voice and saying it if you ask for sex, but damn is whatshisname horrible. If Cortez was whineing about a dead wife or female and whining about a dead husband, no one would hesitate to say they are an awful character. Plus Bioware did both of those before (KotOR and BG2 respectively, though Carth is by FAR the worst of the two), so the only thing that makes him remotely original as far as Bioware characters go is "gay". Edited June 16, 2012 by deuxhero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Kelly Chambers in 2/3, Traynor in 3 and Kaidan in 3 can also have a homosexual relationship with Shepard. Though I think you're being a little rough on Steve, I agree that there could have been a little more to him, but I'd say at least those characters were executed fairly well. Kelly at the least was fairly open about her bisexuality, and Traynor got a little flustered by Allers' "feminine looks" and EDI's voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deuxhero Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Like I said before, Kelly is "player sexual", which is probably the worst way of handling it EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rehab Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Given I could make a lesbian Shepard, I don't necessarily see what being bisexual has to do with the player. Kelly also didn't just randomly flirt with Shepard regardless of the circumstances, she had a line about believing anybody should be considered potentially worthy of love, aliens included. That sounds to me like it was a character-driven statement, if a politically correct one. Edited June 21, 2012 by Rehab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanami Touko Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I do believe that Kelly is pansexual o 3 o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anouleth Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 (edited) Only Mass Effect 3, and of the 2 in there, the ONLY characterization Cortez gets is "dead husband dead husband dead husband" (being friends with another party member and being a good pilot aren't personality). The reporter is more sensible, making a comment about liking a female voice and saying it if you ask for sex, but damn is whatshisname horrible. If Cortez was whineing about a dead wife or female and whining about a dead husband, no one would hesitate to say they are an awful character. Plus Bioware did both of those before (KotOR and BG2 respectively, though Carth is by FAR the worst of the two), so the only thing that makes him remotely original as far as Bioware characters go is "gay". No, I'm pretty sure that every character in Mass Effect 1 and 2 have fixed sexual preferences except the Asari. Which is a good thing, I think. I mean, out of the two potential human partners in Mass Effect 1, what are the chances that one of them would be gay? Pretty damn low. Edited June 21, 2012 by Anouleth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Alear Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 No, I'm pretty sure that every character in Mass Effect 1 and 2 have fixed sexual preferences except the Asari. Which is a good thing, I think. I mean, out of the two potential human partners in Mass Effect 1, what are the chances that one of them would be gay? Pretty damn low. The warm glow lights and the sweaty forehead rub always make me think Kaiden/male shep is going to start in ME1 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus90 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) I'm a fan of bishounen homoerotical incidents only, cause they look like females so it's fine to me. Also, ShotaxShota or ShotaxMature Bishonen, why not? As long as it's drawn and they look females with pingas. I really normal-porn art of Poison from Final Fight and Bridget from Guilty Gear because of this. Also, Shinon from King of Fighters XI and Lucius from Fire Emblem 7. And I'm very straight, still, can't unfap before those. Edited August 14, 2012 by marcus90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birb_Laguz Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I'm so glad this old thread still exists just to see how wildly the interpretation of Ike has changed over the years. Anyways Ike is gay lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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