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PKL

The "Does Haar need to be unbanned?" Draft

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I'm asking would you would have needed Pass if you didn't have so many GMs?

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Hmm, I dont think i would have. Except maybe in 3-3 but ive always been terribad in that map. Dont know if pass is actually needed in that map.

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I would imagine it would make more of an impact for someone with less units like Quin though.

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[quote name='PKL' date='05 May 2012 - 12:33 PM' timestamp='1336235600' post='1968006']
@slayerX- the reason for this being an RNG abuse draft is to see if haar can be beaten under the best conditions possible. I also wanted to compare RNG'd turncounts to normal TCs.
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But then that only serves purpose for other RNG abuse drafts, not normal drafts. If Haar cannot be beaten in normal conditions then he should be banned. This draft would only impact RNG ones.

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[quote name='SlayerX' date='05 May 2012 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1336249678' post='1968270']
But then that only serves purpose for other RNG abuse drafts, not normal drafts. If Haar cannot be beaten in normal conditions then he should be banned. This draft would only impact RNG ones.
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This is a good point., so I've decided to do it twice.

Once with major RNG abuse encouraged, and once without. I think this would be a better representation of whether Haar should be banned or not.

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Well im definetely not doing this twice. Since i already know what eddie can pull in part 1 without rng abuse and what the usual TCs for other parts are, ill just post the TC with rng abuse and the one that i think i would have gotten without it. I wont do this twice because FE10 takes so freaking long and my wii doesnt want me to turn off animations (which makes it all the more frustrating). I expect like 184 turns at the end of this run with RNG abuse, although i might be able to shave 1 or 2 here and there...

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Well I think Pass isn't really relevant for the first P3 [3-2,3-5], maybe it can shave one turn in 3-3 and be helpful in 3-5 but nothing huge compared on recruiting Heather. In a normal draft, of course it's better though, because Heather costs just 1 extra turn.

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In a normal draft, she costs no turns because the 4 turn is extremely riggy anyway :/. I prefer my 5 turn strat with heather.

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ok sorry for not putting ur post in the OP... i havent been at home and i dont have internet here.

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Lol, I'm having problems with energy so I haven't progressed so much. I'm by 3-4

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Yes I have been making progress.
Just wanting to finish PT1 before I edit the thread.

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Finally cleared the draft, my progress post in now complete. No stats nor records though.

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I havent forgotten this btw. My wii refuses to keep playing the disc if i turn off animations which makes every map take soooo long ;_;. I will get back to this soon.

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[quote name='PKL' date='23 May 2012 - 09:01 PM' timestamp='1337824905' post='1990451']
I havent forgotten this btw. My wii refuses to keep playing the disc if i turn off animations which makes every map take soooo long ;_;. I will get back to this soon.
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OH God! Animations in HM are even worse, especially when Aran refuses to land an attack with 93% hit [img]http://serenesforest.net/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/Facepalm_emote_gif.gif[/img]

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One thing is for sure: Im not looking forward to playing the HM draft like this -_-

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Yay, I'm done. I'm never abusing again. -_________-

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I'm finished, Part 4 is going to be up soon, with a change to P1's thing (apparently, 1-6 took 15 turns total, and not 16, and I have no clue where the problem is). Also added a blessing section. Edited by Konnor97

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Updated my post with 3-11 to 3-13. Eddie is going to be such a PITA to beat in 3-E...

3-11 4/66
Celerity Savior Marcia ferries Ike and Leanne vigors her in Turn 2. Leanne was kept safe
by the Hawks that accompany her. I also made Rhys and Soren staff spam for exp and lyre battle a bit.
[code]
Unit Lv Xp HP St Mg Sk Sp Lk Df Rs WLv Support Skills
Ike 20 00 50 27 2 30 30 18 26 10 Sword S Ike B
Soren 7 29 47 19 34 29 29 23 22 30 S/B/S/E Rolf B Adept/Provoke
Rolf 14 57 44 27 4 28 26 18 16 12 Bow S Soren B
Rhys 3 11 44 18 28 26 27 34 19 34 Light B Staff S Lyre C Miracle/Paragon
Mia 6 34 47 28 11 35 37 20 25 14 Sword SS Ike B Vantage/Adept/Cancel
Lyre 22 03 50 12 6 16 16 21 7 10 Strike S Rhys C Blossom/Daunt
Marcia 6 40 47 31 13 29 33 25 26 25 Sword C Lance SS Celerity/Savior
Leanne 6 71 heron
[/code]

3-12 3/69
Pass Eddie goes Down then left. Micaiah with Resolve goes left.
[code]
Unit Lv Xp HP St Mg Sk Sp Lk Df Rs WLv Support Skills
Micaiah 7 16 35 9 27 16 25 32 9 27 Light B Staff C Sothe A Resolve
Sothe 11 35 37 22 7 26 26 22 18 11 Knife S Micaiah A
Edward 8 29 51 30 7 37 38 26 21 14 Sword SS Wrath/Pass/Cancel
[/code]

3-13 3/72
Pass Eddie again. He wrath crits Ike (ouch 81% crit and OHKOs).
[code]
Unit Lv Xp HP St Mg Sk Sp Lk Df Rs WLv Support Skills
Micaiah 7 16 35 9 27 16 25 32 9 27 Light B Staff C Sothe A Resolve
Sothe 12 19 37 22 8 26 26 22 18 11 Knife S Micaiah A
Edward 9 18 52 30 7 38 38 26 21 14 Sword SS Wrath/Cancel/Pass
[/code] Edited by PKL

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Minor thing PKL, but you have for 3-11 that both Mia and Ike are supporting Ike, as in Ike's support says his support partner is himself.

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Ah thanks for noticing. Ill fix it tomorrow.

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