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Lucina Lord 13 (Avatar Mother)

HP 38 Str 17 Mag 08 Skl 23 Spd 24 Lck 20 Def 18 Res 07

Lucina Lord 20

HP 42 Str 19 Mag 08 Skl 28 Spd 27 Lck 25 Def 20 Res 10

Frederick Great Knight 15

HP 42 Str 22 Mag 03 Skl 19 Spd 18 Lck 08 Def 22 Res 06

Avatar (Tact 19/ GM 17) /Sorcerer 16 (+Spd -Lck)

HP 66 Str 24 Mag 30 Skl 29 Spd 41 Lck 28 Def 34 Res 21

[New stats (Dark Flier) have capped Spd and Capped Def]

Panne Lv 30 Taguel

HP 52 Str 26 Mag 04 Skl 22 Spd 29 Lck 17 Def 16 Res 5

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Chrom - Great Knight
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1 51  31   1  29  29  27  29  12
9 59  35   1  32  33  32  33  13

Sumia - Falcon Knight
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1 54  28  16  36  38  31  18  23
12 61  32  21  44  45  36  20  29

Lucina (Sumia)- Paladin
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1 53  28   6  27  27  27  20  17
16 67  39   9  37  36  39  25  21  

Morgan (+Spd - Lck, Virion) - Griffon Rider
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1 53  30  19  30  30  18  20  14
16 66  39  25  41  39  26  28  19

Cynthia (Chrom) - Falcon Knight
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1 44  22   7  26  33  26  15  20
9 52  27   8  30  38  31  16  22

Yarne (Lon'qu) - Thief
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1 37  20   3  19  22  15  10   4
9 45  25*  5  25  27  19  12   7   Str capped at 8

Olivia - Dancer
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 
1 18   3   1   8   9   5   3   2
18 30  14  10  19  20  15   4   7

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Olivia - Dancer
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
15 30   9   6  20  21  13   5   4

Olivia - Myrmidon
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  30  12   6  24  23  13   6   4
16 40  20  13 *28 *29  23  10   7   (skl capped at lv5, spd capped at lv10)

Olivia - Dark Flier
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  35  14  11  25  22  15  12  16
13 44  17  17  32  29  25  16  18

Lucina - Great Lord (Olivia)
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  33  15   3  20  18  14  12   8
6  36  18   3  23  21  18  12  10

Avatar - Mercenary (+spd, -mag)
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  40  20  13  24  22  14  16   8
12 50  25  16 *30 *29  18  19  10   (spd capped at lv10, skl capped at lv11)

Lissa - Troubadour
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  24   4   8  10  12  15   4   8
12 31   9  13  15  20  20   4  15

Chrom - Great Lord
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  38  21   5  22  18  15  17   8
13 47  28   7  30  29  26  22  14

Panne - Wyvern Lord
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  50  28   3  20  23  12  21   7
8  57  35   4  25  30  16  24  12

Lon qu - Wyvern Lord
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  46  23   6  24  25  23  19  10
8  50  27   6  28  30  28  23  11

Lon qu - Wyvern Rider
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
10 41  20   7  22  23  23  16   6
18 47  26   9 *27 *27  27  19  7   (skl capped at lv15, spd capped at lv17)

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All on normal.

LV 12 War Monk Libra

HP 48, STR 18, MAG 18, SKL 19, SPD 16, LCK 14, DEF 13, RES 21

LV 15 Dancer Olivia

HP 30, STR 8, MAG 5, SKL 18, SPD 21, LCK 12, DEF 4, RES 6

LV 13 Mage Ricken

HP 30, STR 6, MAG 12, SKL 13, SPD 10, LCK 16, DEF 9, RES 6

LV 10 Cavalier Stahl

HP 29, STR 14, MAG 0, SKL 12, SPD 10, LCK 8, DEF 14, RES 2

On a side note, When you battle save on Casual mode the Random # sequence doesnt reset. So you can directly compare chacters growth rates to one another.

IE: Get all staff users close to Leveling up. Give them all rescue. Take them all to a fight. Battle save. Then use rescue with one or several of them. Then reset and do it again in a different order.

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I just compared Anna to Mariabelle (starting classes) using what I described above and after 20 ish tests I can confirm that Anna's HP, STR, SKL, SPD, and DEF growths are higher than Mariabelle's. Mariabelle's MAG, and RES are higher and they always matched for Luck.

This all matches what the site says.

I dont plan on doing any more tests like this, but does it help at all?

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This is a new MU (+Str -Skl) on a relatively early game file. Unlike my last one, he's actually following that template! I'm also gonna grab stats on everyone that's gained at least a level, just for data purposes.

Name       Class       Level  HP  Str  Mag  Skl  Spd  Lck  Def  Res
Chrom      Lord         8.13  27  11    3   12   13   10    8    2
MU         Tactician   11.44  26  13   10    8   12    9   10    6
Frederick  G. Knight    2.26  29  13    2   12   10    7   14    3
Lissa      Cleric       7.71  23   3    6    8    8    9    5    5
Sully      Cavalier     6.06  24   9    1   10    9   10    9    2
Virion     Archer       4.83  21   7    0   11    6    9    6    2
Vaike      Fighter      4.50  30  10    0    8    7    5    5    0
Stahl      Cavalier     6.32  26  10    2    9    9    7   11    1
Miriel     Mage         4.13  21   0    9    5   10    7    3    4
Kellam     Knight       6.60  22  11    0    7    6    3   13    2
Donnel     Scrub        3.77  19   5    1    4    4   13    4    1

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I got data on 7 My Units. All raised from level 1 Tactician to level 20 Tactician. All were given HP for asset and the remaining stats were distributed for flaws.

Each My Unit gained 19 levels
Asset  Flaw	HP  Str  Mag  Skl  Spd  Lck  Def  Res
HP  	Str	44  17   11   14   15   15   17   12
HP  	Mag	46  17   11   18   14   12   17   8
HP  	Skl	45  16   16   12   14   17   15   10
HP  	Spd	45  18   14   15   11   13   13   8
HP  	Luk	43  16   12   11   15   13   12   9
HP  	Def	45  18   15   15   12   12   11   10
HP  	Res	45  16   12   13   13   14   18   10

I'd bet my left kidney that HP Asset My Unit has a 110% HP growth rate.

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Avatar - Tactician (+Spd, -Str)
Lv  HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1   19 	5   5   5   8	4   6   4 

Lv  HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
20  36  16  16  18  19  18  13  12

Avatar - Grandmaster (+Spd, -Str)
Lv  HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1   40  19  19  20  21  18  15  14

Lv  HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
15  51  25  24  28  33  24  20  20 

An update of the Avatar I posted earlier

It's pretty crazy seeing how high his Str is, despite it being his flaw.

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oh...heh crap i leveled up Tiki and Anna in their new classes without recording their old stats

oh well i can grab Say'ri before she levels up once in the Dark Flier class

.....so i just realized Anna got 2 level ups with strength out of 14, with a 40% strength growth

good thing she's a sage now amirite

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I got data on 7 My Units. All raised from level 1 Tactician to level 20 Tactician. All were given HP for flaw and all the remaining stats were distributed for assets.

Each My Unit gained 19 levels
Asset  Flaw HP  Str  Mag  Skl Spd  Lck  Def  Res
Str	HP  27  23   20   19  10   16   13   8
Mag	HP  24  17   19   11  18   18   11   9
Skl	HP  25  19   11   21  16   18   13   7
Spd	HP  29  20   16   12  19   17   12   6
Luk	HP  27  15   17   17  18   22   13   14
Def	HP  27  16   13   15  13   16   22   10
Res	HP  25  17   14   13  18   15   12   12

Wow. That HP is bad.

Maybe I shouldn't bet any vital organs this time, but I think HP Flaw My Unit might have a 50% HP growth rate... umm... which would be a bit bizarre since 50% is completely terrible compared to everyone else in the game.

The other My Units posted in this topic without HP assets/flaws seem to point towards a 80% HP growth. Hmm... It would work out nicely: 80% would be My Unit's base HP growth and the asset/flaw modifiers would be +/- 30%. That's my guess for right now anyway.

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^I concur, hp flaw Avatar has a shitastic hp growth.

...For some reason, my +str -hp Avatar also had shitty speed. But that's entirely unrelated...I think...

Gaius - Assassin
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
4  39  22   3  30  28  10  11   6
18 51  32   5  41  39  17  18   7

Tharja - Sorcerer
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
5  38   6  20  10  19   5  17  15
18 49  10  30  17  24  10  24  18

Lon qu - Wyvern Lord
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  52  30   9   -   -  27  22  10
18 68  41  12   -   -  38  29  13  	(No clue when skl/spd capped.)

Chrom - Great Lord
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
4  40  23   6  22  20  17  18   8
20 54  34   7  27  28  26  26  11

Olivia - Swordmaster
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  44  23  14  30  32  23  12  10
16 55  29  17  41  43  30  14  14

Panne - Wyvern Lord
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  50  28   3  20  23  12  21   7
20 69  42   3  31  33  20  38  14

Avatar - Hero (+spd -mag)
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  54  28  17  33  32  18  22  13
18 71  38  20  43  42  26  25  14

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IT'S VAIKE TIME!!!

I raised ten Vaikes for the data collection.

Do I earn my tenure now? Oh ho ho ho ho!

All Vaikes raised from level 3 Fighter to level 20 Fighter (17 levels gained). HP+5 skill not included in stats.

HP  Str  Mag Skl  Spd  Luk  Def  Res
42  23   5   19   15   14   16   4
41  22   1   18   17	9   13   2
41  24   2   16   14   13   15   2
42  21   2   20   14   10   12   1
42  20   5   20   15   14   11   1
41  22   2   22   17   11   17   1
43  20   0   20   12   13   14   2
43  22   2   21   14   14   12   1
41  16   1   21   14   11   13   1
41  22   1   17   12   13   17   1

My top-screen is all smudged up due to frequent muscle touching.

LOL Vaike jokes.

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All the character stats below were me messing around grinding in DLC multiple times to test this. Hope it helps

Cordelia (all are level 20)

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Lck	Def	Res
38	14	6	20	22	14	14	14
35	18	4	22	20	12	12	13
36	16	3	19	19	11	16	10
32	19	8	18	20	14	13	13
36	17	4	21	22	10	10	12
37	16	3	20	19	13	15	11
33	16	4	20	18	14	13	10

Dark Flier (First 3 Cordelias above taken to lv20 dark flier)

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Lck	Def	Res
56	29	14	33	36	22	24	26
55	31	11	37	34	21	20	20
58	30	9	32	34	24	28	16

The variance in their stats is extremely dumb lol

Frederick (Level 20 Great Knight)

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Lck	Def	Res
49	24	2	23	20	7	28	5
47	26	3	20	20	10	27	4
48	23	2	24	24	9	33	5

I can safely say his lck growth sucks a lot since all the freds Ive had up

to this point don't pass 10 lck.

Ricken

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Lck	Def	Res
35	8	18	16	16	26	13	7
35	10	14	18	18	24	9	12
29	5	20	13	14	20	6	9
33	13	17	17	15	27	14	10

Another character whos stats vary a lot :/

Cherche (HM)

HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Lck	Def	Res
39	22	1	16	16	11	22	2
39	20	1	17	18	13	23	2
39	17	1	21	17	9	20	2
39	23	1	18	16	12	19	2
39	21	1	19	16	13	22	2

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MOAR HP TESTS!!! I NEED TO KNOW THE AVATAR'S HP!!!

28 Avatars. Tactician lv1 --> Tactician lv20. All have HP flaw.

Asset 	Flaw 	HP 	Str 	Mag 	Skl 	Spd 	Luk 	Def 	Res
Str	HP	23	22	14	13	16	17	12	9
Str	HP	30	19	14	15	22	16	13	11
Str	HP	25	21	14	12	16	14	16	10
Str	HP	27	21	14	18	14	15	12	13
Asset 	Flaw 	HP 	Str 	Mag 	Skl 	Spd 	Luk 	Def 	Res
Mag	HP	25	17	18	10	14	15	12	8
Mag	HP	29	15	17	13	16	16	14	10
Mag	HP	26	13	22	17	17	14	15	9
Mag	HP	28	17	18	15	21	10	12	11
Asset 	Flaw 	HP 	Str 	Mag 	Skl 	Spd 	Luk 	Def 	Res
Skl	HP	31	15	11	18	12	16	11	9
Skl	HP	28	16	16	17	15	10	13	10
Skl	HP	28	18	12	21	16	17	16	11
Skl	HP	29	17	15	15	13	14	17	7
Asset 	Flaw 	HP 	Str 	Mag 	Skl 	Spd 	Luk 	Def 	Res
Spd	HP	30	19	16	15	20	16	14	8
Spd	HP	29	16	14	16	20	14	12	7
Spd	HP	28	18	18	17	22	15	15	7
Spd	HP	28	13	14	13	18	16	12	9
Asset 	Flaw 	HP 	Str 	Mag 	Skl 	Spd 	Luk 	Def 	Res
Luk	HP	25	19	22	9	15	23	10	11
Luk	HP	26	14	14	14	15	26	10	10
Luk	HP	28	17	15	18	14	22	15	8
Luk	HP	28	18	14	15	15	24	11	8
Asset 	Flaw 	HP 	Str 	Mag 	Skl 	Spd 	Luk 	Def 	Res
Def	HP	33	15	12	15	14	15	16	11
Def	HP	29	11	15	21	17	11	16	7
Def	HP	28	21	18	14	14	15	17	7
Def	HP	27	20	15	12	15	11	16	10
Asset 	Flaw 	HP 	Str 	Mag 	Skl 	Spd 	Luk 	Def 	Res
Res	HP	24	16	14	15	14	12	14	14
Res	HP	28	20	15	11	16	17	13	13
Res	HP	29	18	18	13	18	14	11	13
Res	HP	31	17	19	11	18	14	11	16

Well, compared to my previous test, I generally got higher HP this time. The growth for HP flaw looks more like 60% now. I guess that seems more "realistic" than 50% which would have been really terrible. I wonder if HP uses different numbers for its asset and flaw growth modifiers? Like -20% for flaw and +30% for asset?

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Alright, thanks for the data though.

Also, my desktop that I had the spreadsheet in is dead (it won't boot up half the time and the rest of the time the CPU is so sensitive that slight movements cause it to crash) so I'm going to have to recopy all the data, this time to a gdoc so that Raven can update when I'm busy/lazy and so that this doesn't happen again.

Special thanks to Revenant though for getting a bunch of data on non-standard Avatar builds, as well as anyone else who happens to be doing something like that (I haven't looked through the thread much in the past two weeks due to the aforementioned issue).

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Well, compared to my previous test, I generally got higher HP this time. The growth for HP flaw looks more like 60% now. I guess that seems more "realistic" than 50% which would have been really terrible. I wonder if HP uses different numbers for its asset and flaw growth modifiers? Like -20% for flaw and +30% for asset?

Could be +25/-25. That would allow for >100 growth for +HP Avatar, assuming neutral is 80.

Anyway this looks like a worthy cause, so I'll do what I can to contribute. Can't help with any of my promoted units because I don't have their stats on promotion, but I can give you the rest (unpromoted/no second seals):

Character	Level	HP	Str	Mag	Skl	Spd	Luk	Def	Res
Nowi		18	37	12	7	9	11	16	10	11
Olivia		22	35	12	3	21	25	21	9	9
Miriel		13	24	3	14	12	12	12	5	11
Panne		28	50	19	4	21	23	17	20	5
Cherche		15	34	16	1	15	14	10	17	2
Cordelia	12	30	13	3	17	17	12	10	8
Kellam		12	28	13	1	13	10	7	17	3
Henry		16	33	7	16	16	12	12	15	7
Ricken		12	29	5	11	12	11	17	8	8
Gregor		15	35	16	0	17	13	12	12	2

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Gaius - Trickster
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  49  28   9   -  38  17  16  11
20 66 *36  16   - *45  20  22  17 	(str capped at lv18; spd at lv9)

Tharja - Sorcerer
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
6  66  17  38  26  30  19  28  26
20 78  20  45  32 *41  25  33  32 	(spd capped at lv19)

Lon qu - Griffon Rider
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  66  39  12  43  43  38  26  13
8  72 *40  13 *46 *44 *45  27  14 	(str capped at lv2; skl at lv4; spd at lv3; lck at lv8)

Olivia - Dancer
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  51   -  16  35  38  30  11  11
18 67   -  19 *41 *41  39  13  16 	(skl capped at lv11; spd at lv9)

Panne - Griffon Rider
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
1  67  40   3  33  35  20  35  14
8  74 *42   4  39  41  23  37  16 	(str capped at lv4)

Lissa - Troubadour
Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res
4  27   6  11  11  13  17   4  10
18 36   8  22  16  19  24   6  22

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