Balcerzak Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Lucina Lord 13 (Avatar Mother) HP 38 Str 17 Mag 08 Skl 23 Spd 24 Lck 20 Def 18 Res 07 Lucina Lord 20 HP 42 Str 19 Mag 08 Skl 28 Spd 27 Lck 25 Def 20 Res 10 Frederick Great Knight 15 HP 42 Str 22 Mag 03 Skl 19 Spd 18 Lck 08 Def 22 Res 06 Avatar (Tact 19/ GM 17) /Sorcerer 16 (+Spd -Lck) HP 66 Str 24 Mag 30 Skl 29 Spd 41 Lck 28 Def 34 Res 21 [New stats (Dark Flier) have capped Spd and Capped Def] Panne Lv 30 Taguel HP 52 Str 26 Mag 04 Skl 22 Spd 29 Lck 17 Def 16 Res 5 Edited February 22, 2013 by Balcerzak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Chrom Lv 13 Lord HP 31, Str 14, Mag 2, Skill 16, Spd 16, Lck 15, Def 11, Res e Do you remember what this e is supposed to be? I'm guessing 3 or 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwall Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Maribelle Lv. 20 HP 29 Str 6 Mag 18 Skl 9 Spd 15 Lck 19 Def 5 Res 13+2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gergeshwan Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Chrom - Great Knight Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 51 31 1 29 29 27 29 12 9 59 35 1 32 33 32 33 13 Sumia - Falcon Knight Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 54 28 16 36 38 31 18 23 12 61 32 21 44 45 36 20 29 Lucina (Sumia)- Paladin Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 53 28 6 27 27 27 20 17 16 67 39 9 37 36 39 25 21 Morgan (+Spd - Lck, Virion) - Griffon Rider Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 53 30 19 30 30 18 20 14 16 66 39 25 41 39 26 28 19 Cynthia (Chrom) - Falcon Knight Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 44 22 7 26 33 26 15 20 9 52 27 8 30 38 31 16 22 Yarne (Lon'qu) - Thief Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 37 20 3 19 22 15 10 4 9 45 25* 5 25 27 19 12 7 Str capped at 8 Olivia - Dancer Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 18 3 1 8 9 5 3 2 18 30 14 10 19 20 15 4 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Olivia - Dancer Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 15 30 9 6 20 21 13 5 4 Olivia - Myrmidon Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 30 12 6 24 23 13 6 4 16 40 20 13 *28 *29 23 10 7 (skl capped at lv5, spd capped at lv10) Olivia - Dark Flier Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 35 14 11 25 22 15 12 16 13 44 17 17 32 29 25 16 18 Lucina - Great Lord (Olivia) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 33 15 3 20 18 14 12 8 6 36 18 3 23 21 18 12 10 Avatar - Mercenary (+spd, -mag) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 40 20 13 24 22 14 16 8 12 50 25 16 *30 *29 18 19 10 (spd capped at lv10, skl capped at lv11) Lissa - Troubadour Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 24 4 8 10 12 15 4 8 12 31 9 13 15 20 20 4 15 Chrom - Great Lord Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 38 21 5 22 18 15 17 8 13 47 28 7 30 29 26 22 14 Panne - Wyvern Lord Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 50 28 3 20 23 12 21 7 8 57 35 4 25 30 16 24 12 Lon qu - Wyvern Lord Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 46 23 6 24 25 23 19 10 8 50 27 6 28 30 28 23 11 Lon qu - Wyvern Rider Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 10 41 20 7 22 23 23 16 6 18 47 26 9 *27 *27 27 19 7 (skl capped at lv15, spd capped at lv17) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 All on normal. LV 12 War Monk Libra HP 48, STR 18, MAG 18, SKL 19, SPD 16, LCK 14, DEF 13, RES 21 LV 15 Dancer Olivia HP 30, STR 8, MAG 5, SKL 18, SPD 21, LCK 12, DEF 4, RES 6 LV 13 Mage Ricken HP 30, STR 6, MAG 12, SKL 13, SPD 10, LCK 16, DEF 9, RES 6 LV 10 Cavalier Stahl HP 29, STR 14, MAG 0, SKL 12, SPD 10, LCK 8, DEF 14, RES 2 On a side note, When you battle save on Casual mode the Random # sequence doesnt reset. So you can directly compare chacters growth rates to one another. IE: Get all staff users close to Leveling up. Give them all rescue. Take them all to a fight. Battle save. Then use rescue with one or several of them. Then reset and do it again in a different order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Marcia (Avatar female) Lv20 Tactician (+def -res) HP 33 Str 16 Mag 15 Skl 11 Spd 14 Lck 14 Def 21 Res 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk King Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I just compared Anna to Mariabelle (starting classes) using what I described above and after 20 ish tests I can confirm that Anna's HP, STR, SKL, SPD, and DEF growths are higher than Mariabelle's. Mariabelle's MAG, and RES are higher and they always matched for Luck. This all matches what the site says. I dont plan on doing any more tests like this, but does it help at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Lucina Lord Lv20 Mother = Avatar with +def - res HP 46 Str 25 Mag 13 Skl 24 Spd 26 Lck 25 Def 22 Res 9 This is in my Loony file. Best Lucina ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Have another! Unit that I suspect is Speed-screwed, that is. Name Class Level HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Ricken Mage 20.00 33 7 16 15 12 20 13 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Oh man, I forgot to record the bases for that Lucina. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclipse Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 This is a new MU (+Str -Skl) on a relatively early game file. Unlike my last one, he's actually following that template! I'm also gonna grab stats on everyone that's gained at least a level, just for data purposes. Name Class Level HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Chrom Lord 8.13 27 11 3 12 13 10 8 2 MU Tactician 11.44 26 13 10 8 12 9 10 6 Frederick G. Knight 2.26 29 13 2 12 10 7 14 3 Lissa Cleric 7.71 23 3 6 8 8 9 5 5 Sully Cavalier 6.06 24 9 1 10 9 10 9 2 Virion Archer 4.83 21 7 0 11 6 9 6 2 Vaike Fighter 4.50 30 10 0 8 7 5 5 0 Stahl Cavalier 6.32 26 10 2 9 9 7 11 1 Miriel Mage 4.13 21 0 9 5 10 7 3 4 Kellam Knight 6.60 22 11 0 7 6 3 13 2 Donnel Scrub 3.77 19 5 1 4 4 13 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryz Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 I got data on 7 My Units. All raised from level 1 Tactician to level 20 Tactician. All were given HP for asset and the remaining stats were distributed for flaws. Each My Unit gained 19 levels Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res HP Str 44 17 11 14 15 15 17 12 HP Mag 46 17 11 18 14 12 17 8 HP Skl 45 16 16 12 14 17 15 10 HP Spd 45 18 14 15 11 13 13 8 HP Luk 43 16 12 11 15 13 12 9 HP Def 45 18 15 15 12 12 11 10 HP Res 45 16 12 13 13 14 18 10 I'd bet my left kidney that HP Asset My Unit has a 110% HP growth rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titamon Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 (edited) Avatar - Tactician (+Spd, -Str) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 19 5 5 5 8 4 6 4 Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 20 36 16 16 18 19 18 13 12 Avatar - Grandmaster (+Spd, -Str) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 40 19 19 20 21 18 15 14 Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 15 51 25 24 28 33 24 20 20 An update of the Avatar I posted earlier It's pretty crazy seeing how high his Str is, despite it being his flaw. Edited February 27, 2013 by Merry Sioux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadykid Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) oh...heh crap i leveled up Tiki and Anna in their new classes without recording their old stats oh well i can grab Say'ri before she levels up once in the Dark Flier class .....so i just realized Anna got 2 level ups with strength out of 14, with a 40% strength growth good thing she's a sage now amirite Edited February 28, 2013 by shadykid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryz Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 I got data on 7 My Units. All raised from level 1 Tactician to level 20 Tactician. All were given HP for flaw and all the remaining stats were distributed for assets. Each My Unit gained 19 levels Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res Str HP 27 23 20 19 10 16 13 8 Mag HP 24 17 19 11 18 18 11 9 Skl HP 25 19 11 21 16 18 13 7 Spd HP 29 20 16 12 19 17 12 6 Luk HP 27 15 17 17 18 22 13 14 Def HP 27 16 13 15 13 16 22 10 Res HP 25 17 14 13 18 15 12 12 Wow. That HP is bad. Maybe I shouldn't bet any vital organs this time, but I think HP Flaw My Unit might have a 50% HP growth rate... umm... which would be a bit bizarre since 50% is completely terrible compared to everyone else in the game. The other My Units posted in this topic without HP assets/flaws seem to point towards a 80% HP growth. Hmm... It would work out nicely: 80% would be My Unit's base HP growth and the asset/flaw modifiers would be +/- 30%. That's my guess for right now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 ^I concur, hp flaw Avatar has a shitastic hp growth. ...For some reason, my +str -hp Avatar also had shitty speed. But that's entirely unrelated...I think... Gaius - Assassin Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 4 39 22 3 30 28 10 11 6 18 51 32 5 41 39 17 18 7 Tharja - Sorcerer Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 5 38 6 20 10 19 5 17 15 18 49 10 30 17 24 10 24 18 Lon qu - Wyvern Lord Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 52 30 9 - - 27 22 10 18 68 41 12 - - 38 29 13 (No clue when skl/spd capped.) Chrom - Great Lord Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 4 40 23 6 22 20 17 18 8 20 54 34 7 27 28 26 26 11 Olivia - Swordmaster Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 44 23 14 30 32 23 12 10 16 55 29 17 41 43 30 14 14 Panne - Wyvern Lord Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 50 28 3 20 23 12 21 7 20 69 42 3 31 33 20 38 14 Avatar - Hero (+spd -mag) Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 54 28 17 33 32 18 22 13 18 71 38 20 43 42 26 25 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 IT'S VAIKE TIME!!! I raised ten Vaikes for the data collection. Do I earn my tenure now? Oh ho ho ho ho! All Vaikes raised from level 3 Fighter to level 20 Fighter (17 levels gained). HP+5 skill not included in stats. HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res 42 23 5 19 15 14 16 4 41 22 1 18 17 9 13 2 41 24 2 16 14 13 15 2 42 21 2 20 14 10 12 1 42 20 5 20 15 14 11 1 41 22 2 22 17 11 17 1 43 20 0 20 12 13 14 2 43 22 2 21 14 14 12 1 41 16 1 21 14 11 13 1 41 22 1 17 12 13 17 1 My top-screen is all smudged up due to frequent muscle touching. LOL Vaike jokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMeatyClawz Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I have a bunch of stats from my current lunatic PT. It's all saved on an excel sheet and it's a lot of work converting to code so I'll just ink to the sheet. Also I picked +Speed - Luck. I know it's not what you all wanted, but it's too good to pass up. Stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKL Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 All the character stats below were me messing around grinding in DLC multiple times to test this. Hope it helps Cordelia (all are level 20) HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 38 14 6 20 22 14 14 14 35 18 4 22 20 12 12 13 36 16 3 19 19 11 16 10 32 19 8 18 20 14 13 13 36 17 4 21 22 10 10 12 37 16 3 20 19 13 15 11 33 16 4 20 18 14 13 10 Dark Flier (First 3 Cordelias above taken to lv20 dark flier) HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 56 29 14 33 36 22 24 26 55 31 11 37 34 21 20 20 58 30 9 32 34 24 28 16 The variance in their stats is extremely dumb lol Frederick (Level 20 Great Knight) HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 49 24 2 23 20 7 28 5 47 26 3 20 20 10 27 4 48 23 2 24 24 9 33 5 I can safely say his lck growth sucks a lot since all the freds Ive had up to this point don't pass 10 lck. Ricken HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 35 8 18 16 16 26 13 7 35 10 14 18 18 24 9 12 29 5 20 13 14 20 6 9 33 13 17 17 15 27 14 10 Another character whos stats vary a lot :/ Cherche (HM) HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 39 22 1 16 16 11 22 2 39 20 1 17 18 13 23 2 39 17 1 21 17 9 20 2 39 23 1 18 16 12 19 2 39 21 1 19 16 13 22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryz Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 MOAR HP TESTS!!! I NEED TO KNOW THE AVATAR'S HP!!! 28 Avatars. Tactician lv1 --> Tactician lv20. All have HP flaw. Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Str HP 23 22 14 13 16 17 12 9 Str HP 30 19 14 15 22 16 13 11 Str HP 25 21 14 12 16 14 16 10 Str HP 27 21 14 18 14 15 12 13 Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Mag HP 25 17 18 10 14 15 12 8 Mag HP 29 15 17 13 16 16 14 10 Mag HP 26 13 22 17 17 14 15 9 Mag HP 28 17 18 15 21 10 12 11 Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Skl HP 31 15 11 18 12 16 11 9 Skl HP 28 16 16 17 15 10 13 10 Skl HP 28 18 12 21 16 17 16 11 Skl HP 29 17 15 15 13 14 17 7 Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Spd HP 30 19 16 15 20 16 14 8 Spd HP 29 16 14 16 20 14 12 7 Spd HP 28 18 18 17 22 15 15 7 Spd HP 28 13 14 13 18 16 12 9 Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Luk HP 25 19 22 9 15 23 10 11 Luk HP 26 14 14 14 15 26 10 10 Luk HP 28 17 15 18 14 22 15 8 Luk HP 28 18 14 15 15 24 11 8 Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Def HP 33 15 12 15 14 15 16 11 Def HP 29 11 15 21 17 11 16 7 Def HP 28 21 18 14 14 15 17 7 Def HP 27 20 15 12 15 11 16 10 Asset Flaw HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Res HP 24 16 14 15 14 12 14 14 Res HP 28 20 15 11 16 17 13 13 Res HP 29 18 18 13 18 14 11 13 Res HP 31 17 19 11 18 14 11 16 Well, compared to my previous test, I generally got higher HP this time. The growth for HP flaw looks more like 60% now. I guess that seems more "realistic" than 50% which would have been really terrible. I wonder if HP uses different numbers for its asset and flaw growth modifiers? Like -20% for flaw and +30% for asset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nocturnal YL Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Note: I will stop providing updates. I don't like levelling up my units without manipulation, that's why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperblade Posted March 6, 2013 Author Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Alright, thanks for the data though. Also, my desktop that I had the spreadsheet in is dead (it won't boot up half the time and the rest of the time the CPU is so sensitive that slight movements cause it to crash) so I'm going to have to recopy all the data, this time to a gdoc so that Raven can update when I'm busy/lazy and so that this doesn't happen again. Special thanks to Revenant though for getting a bunch of data on non-standard Avatar builds, as well as anyone else who happens to be doing something like that (I haven't looked through the thread much in the past two weeks due to the aforementioned issue). Edited March 6, 2013 by Paperblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaotix Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Well, compared to my previous test, I generally got higher HP this time. The growth for HP flaw looks more like 60% now. I guess that seems more "realistic" than 50% which would have been really terrible. I wonder if HP uses different numbers for its asset and flaw growth modifiers? Like -20% for flaw and +30% for asset? Could be +25/-25. That would allow for >100 growth for +HP Avatar, assuming neutral is 80. Anyway this looks like a worthy cause, so I'll do what I can to contribute. Can't help with any of my promoted units because I don't have their stats on promotion, but I can give you the rest (unpromoted/no second seals): Character Level HP Str Mag Skl Spd Luk Def Res Nowi 18 37 12 7 9 11 16 10 11 Olivia 22 35 12 3 21 25 21 9 9 Miriel 13 24 3 14 12 12 12 5 11 Panne 28 50 19 4 21 23 17 20 5 Cherche 15 34 16 1 15 14 10 17 2 Cordelia 12 30 13 3 17 17 12 10 8 Kellam 12 28 13 1 13 10 7 17 3 Henry 16 33 7 16 16 12 12 15 7 Ricken 12 29 5 11 12 11 17 8 8 Gregor 15 35 16 0 17 13 12 12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sock Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Gaius - Trickster Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 49 28 9 - 38 17 16 11 20 66 *36 16 - *45 20 22 17 (str capped at lv18; spd at lv9) Tharja - Sorcerer Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 6 66 17 38 26 30 19 28 26 20 78 20 45 32 *41 25 33 32 (spd capped at lv19) Lon qu - Griffon Rider Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 66 39 12 43 43 38 26 13 8 72 *40 13 *46 *44 *45 27 14 (str capped at lv2; skl at lv4; spd at lv3; lck at lv8) Olivia - Dancer Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 51 - 16 35 38 30 11 11 18 67 - 19 *41 *41 39 13 16 (skl capped at lv11; spd at lv9) Panne - Griffon Rider Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 1 67 40 3 33 35 20 35 14 8 74 *42 4 39 41 23 37 16 (str capped at lv4) Lissa - Troubadour Lv HP Str Mag Skl Spd Lck Def Res 4 27 6 11 11 13 17 4 10 18 36 8 22 16 19 24 6 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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